Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumSorry folks. There's no "secret shortcut" to taking Bernie down.
With each new poll, the desperation of centrist pundits grows. And you keep seeing more twitter posts about how this or that little thing is "disqualifying". Whether it's some dumb thing Bernie said in 1970, or something rude someone on the internet posted, or the level of detail in his medical disclosure, or whatever else.
None of that is going to make any difference. Nobody who doesn't already hate Bernie cares.
If anyone is going to defeat Bernie, it's going to be because they articulate a set of policies that are more appealing to Democratic voters. Or a track record, set of values, vision, leadership, something that actually matters to voters, that would affect people's lives.
There's no secret shortcut. If someone else can prove themselves to be a better candidate, on substantive grounds, then credit to them. But the anti-Bernie people seem to have totally given up on that, and are now desperately flailing to find some "gotcha." But there is no gotcha. Sorry!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Jersey Devil
(9,874 posts)He does not have a majority, which he wii need at the convention to get the nomination and the primaries are not winner take all. Unless it becomes a 2 or 3 person race it is unlikely anyone can win a majority. So it is not a case of taking him down. Rather, it is a question of how he can build a coalition to get to a majority. I dont think this contest has really started yet and you are counting chickens that not only haven hatched yet but also have not even been laid yet. So relax. Maybe by May or June we wii know where we are going, but certainly not now or next week or Super Tuesday.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
stlstdg
(34 posts)Especially given that at this point three quarters of Democratic primary voters
prefer someone else.
A person who's at the top of the polls, but who's not anywhere near even 50%
preference is not winning. He's just ahead--when 48 states have yet to have
primaries/caucuses. There's no one to "defeat."
It's way too early for Sanders folks to be celebrating, for anyone else to be
"panicking."
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
DanTex
(20,709 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NanceGreggs
(27,813 posts)Where have I heard that before? Oh, yeah - "Nobody who doesn't already hate Trump cares."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
CalFione
(571 posts)He is in second in delegates.
He won NH by 1.3% - after leading in all polls by 6% to 8% on the final weekend before the primary. It was the smallest margin of victory in NH in the history of the NH primary. In a state that borders his own and should be a HOME game for him.
He tied Iowa - after leading in all polls by 5% to 7% on the final weekend before the caucus.
Bernie has underperformed his polls in each of the first two states by a large amount.
You're right - there is no "short-cut". Just count the votes and we'll see. Bernie has underperformed in two states he was favored to win big.
70% of the party wants someone else. They're still figuring out which of the someone elses they want. If/when they do, Bernie loses - because he has a hard ceiling that is south of 40%. If they do not, Bernie might squeak thru to the delegate lead when we get to Milwaukee.
Under almost no scenario does Bernie get to Milwaukee with 1,991 delegates. And at that point, we'll see what happens.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
msongs
(67,394 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Quixote1818
(28,928 posts)Link to tweet
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
of the voters have, to date, rejected bernie.
Most likely scenario as of today ... the convention is deadlocked with no winner on the first ballot. Moderates coalesce around a candidate. Bernie and the bros depart the convention whining, crying and blaming Hillary and/or bill and/or Chelsea and/or the super delegates and/or the DNC.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
brooklynite
(94,493 posts)Conversely, nobody who doesn't already support Bernie is drawn to him.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
katmondoo
(6,454 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)... putting MAGA Cultist in jail cause the number of rats jumping ship.
She's not contrasting herself with Sanders enough other than full disclosure which didn't help ... I do think she should contrast herself with Sanders.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden