Warren & Sanders supporters, a question

[redqueen]

What would you think of a ticket with both on it?

Not interested in speculation about the likelihood, just want to find out what their supporters on DU would think of it.

As for me, I'd love it.

[Faux pas]

1. Yep

[TCJ70]

2. I'd have zero problems with that. N/t

[ibegurpard]

3. I don't think that's a good idea

they need to pick a unity candidate. I think Kaine was a mistake in 2016.

[thesquanderer]

18. I also think Kaine was a mistake, but basically because he didn't energize anybody.

I don't think he got Hillary votes she wouldn't have gotten otherwise. And he did not generate any additional enthusiasm for the ticket. I put VP selection on the list of the many things that factored into HRC's loss. It was a missed opportunity.

Even though Sanders and Warren have many similarities, I think a combined ticket would have a lot of appeal. They both energize people, and I think would generate more enthusiasm than either one alone.

[whathehell]

4. I think it would be a good idea,

since their ideas are so similar.

[k8conant]

5. Great!

[Hassin Bin Sober]

6. We definitely need a woman as VP. Preferably an African American woman.

[LonePirate]

16. Someone like Stacey Abrams? Be still my heart!

[Anon-C]

21. The best thing Bernie Sanders could do is to offer the VP spot to Stacey Abrams.

[LonePirate]

22. Picking her as VP would be the best decision made by any of our candidates, even Warren & Klobuchar.

[jalan48]

7. I think we will need a candidate from the Midwest in order to win critical states in that region.

Two Progressives from the NE would limit us.

[redqueen]

8. I think their focus on jobs and fighting Wall Street corruption

could make up for any regional issues but point taken.

[CentralMass]

9. I like the idea.

[CalFione]

10. Sure.. why not turn a 30-state loss into a 40-state loss?

Pair a far-left New Englander with .... another (slightly less) far-left New Englander.


We'll win VT, MA, CA, and NY. And not much else.

[redqueen]

13. Welcome to DU nt

[krissey]

11. Sanders is not Warrens block for a lot of us. Sanders is 6 on my list. I will vote Bloomberg

before Sanders. Many Warren voters are HRC voters. Sanders burned that bridge and did again today telling me HRC was a hold your nose candidate.

[redqueen]

14. Welcome to DU nt

[krissey]

17. 53% of Sanders voters will vote Democrat. 92% of Warren voters will vote Democrat.

That is a good gauge of the difference between the two campaigns.

[Bradical79]

35. So Sanders would get more support as nominee

[krissey]

39. Sanders, an Independent and his supporters that aren't Democrats are demanding Democrats

vote for an Independent or the non Democrats will not vote Democrat.

[Bradical79]

41. You're just making things up at this point

[krissey]

42. Facts.

[BlueMTexpat]

44. Good for you, krissey!

Some don't like the truth!

And you are right.

[krissey]

46. Thank you.

[Bradical79]

53. The same poll has Sanders with the best shot at beating Trump

In a head to head Sanders is +1 against Trump, and every other candidate is in the negative. Also Yang is top choice for VP among Democratic voters.

Suffice to say, I find this poll questionable.

[BlueMTexpat]

68. I think that you

are right to find it questionable!

[JudyM]

64. Please provide the DATA for your assertion about Sanders supporters. Or doesn't it exist?

[krissey]

65. Poll is around here somewhere. Plenty have seen it. Find it or you don't care.

[JudyM]

67. If true it's as good as proof that Sanders is our best shot at beating trump then. Because numbers.

I don’t like it and I doubt it but he is not in control of their actions. He says repeatedly and bluntly that he wants everyone to support the eventual candidate.

I’ve seen a 90% figure, at least for ‘16.

[JustAnotherGen]

57. Off to find this

I did not know he had said that.

And this time - a sincere welcome to DU. I think you are spot on about many Warren supporters. . . more that a few I know IRL.

ETA - it was that Gray woman again :smdh:
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/483602-sanders-spokeswoman-we-saw-the-consequences-of-a-hold-your-nose-candidate


He needs to reign her in. She's fucking it up, and she's insulting. He's a Hold Your Nose Candidate for me.

[krissey]

63. Thank you and I agree with you, also.

[mike_c]

12. I would be absolutely thrilled by a Sanders/Warren ticket.

Be still, my heart!

[LonePirate]

15. No. We need a progressive and a centrist on the ticket, not two progressives unless Abrams is VP.

[redqueen]

24. Klobuchar & Warren?

[LonePirate]

25. If Klobuchar were to win the nomination and choose Warren for VP, that would be a great ticket.

Granted, Abrams would still be a better choice than Warren for VP under Klobuchar. Except for possibly Michele Obama, there is not a better person for VP than Stacey Abrams. She brings sky high voter turnout among young, urban and minority voters across the country. She shifts GA from toss-up or lean red to lean blue. She brings FL and NC into the fold. She excites the progressive wing of the party and its base. She also sets up a bright future for us.

[redqueen]

26. Klobuchar and Abrams would be two moderates?

I don't know why Abrams is such a popular choice when people discuss potential black female candidates.

My first pick would be Barbara Lee.

[LonePirate]

40. Lee, while a great House Representative, brings little to the ticket.

She is largely unknown and is from Oakland, CA - a state we are already going to win by 8-10 million votes. Also, her relative anonymity does not allow her to unite the progressive and moderate wings of the party. She simply does not have the massive name recognition and energizing presence that Abrams has.

Lee would certainly make a wonderful addition to a Democratic president’s Cabinet, though.

[Beringia]

19. I can't imagine who Sanders will choose as a running mate

He seems so hard line, it would have to be somebody that would totally follow him.

I don't know how these 2 get along, especially when Warren accused him of saying a woman cannot win.

[ehrnst]

36. And then there's him accusing her of making it up.

So, no, I don't think she's going to be interested in choosing him as a VP, even if he would NEVER accept VP.

Although I think he would be itching to be asked, so he could turn it down.

[Baclava]

20. maybe, there was a report Bernie was looking into Liz as VP and Treasury Sec

Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont and his presidential campaign reportedly looked into whether Sen. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts could serve as both vice president and treasury secretary if he were elected president.

...the campaign had not finalized any decisions for Sanders' potential cabinet, determined that there were no Constitutional barriers that would prevent a vice president from serving as treasury secretary.

https://www.businessinsider.com/sanders-researched-whether-warren-could-vp-and-treasury-secretary-report-2020-1

[redqueen]

23. What about Klobuchar and Warren?

I would love that too

[Bradical79]

27. I wouldn't hate it

but ideally, I'd prefer someone under 70 as VP.

[Ace Rothstein]

28. Wouldn't both be replaced by a Republican governor?

That would be bad.

[NurseJackie]

29. I think they hate each other.

And he'd never accept the VP slot.

[redqueen]

30. I sincerely doubt that. This is politics.

Just as in business, little is personal, most is calculated. They're not neophytes.

[NurseJackie]

34. Warren does not suffer fools lightly. She's made her views clear.

And she earned much respect from me as a result of standing up to bullies.

[Aaron Pereira]

31. I hope they can get over the bad blood and create a ticket.

I switched to Sanders but still admire Warren very much. They would make a powerful team IMO.

[totodeinhere]

32. I like both Bernie and Liz. I will gladly vote for either in November.

But I would not put them both on the same ticket. We need a running mate who can help the ticket win a swing state. They are both from states that we will carry anyway.

[ehrnst]

33. I don't think Bernie would ever, ever accept being VP

as he has more power and media as a Senator. Although I think he would hoping beyond hope to be asked so he could turn it down.

And I don't support him in the primary for POTUS, so it would not be my ideal pairing.

[Mad cow]

37. Sounds great to me

[mvd]

38. I think a Sanders/Warren or Warren/Sanders ticket..

Would transcend the normal NE limitations. Sanders fires up his people and Warren has a lot of supporters. Even Carville likes Warren.

[Tweedy]

43. ??

Would not Senator Warren and her can do plans be wasted in the vie president's office when she could do much more as a senator?

Would Bernie ever agree to be Vice President ?

Is not the ticket you suggest a bit old?

Those questions aside if we weren't living like frogs slow roasting on the burner (climate change) your proposal would be a welcome solution for this one.

Nonetheless, we are slow roasting frogs, and I do NOT want to lose 2 democratic senators for a year in Massachusetts & potentially longer in Vermont.

Both states currently have GOP governors.
Massachusetts requires a special election asap, while the Vermont governor is up this cycle.

[BlueMTexpat]

48. This.

NO to Warren for ANYONE's Veep!

[Malmsy]

45. Yes!! I'd love it too!

[BlueMTexpat]

47. No.

Just no.

Warren is the real deal.

Sanders isn't.

But too many people have apparently fallen for the pseudo-deal instead of the real one.

[TDale313]

49. It'd be awesome.

Like them both. I am gonna break your rule and say I think it’s probably unlikely (presidential nominees tend to bring in a vp who balances out the ticket- policy wise, geographically, holes in their experience/resume. Arguably, Warren and Sanders tick too many of the same boxes and not enough complimentary ones) But what do I know? Conventional wisdom may end up having very little to do with this election cycle. 🙂

[seaglass]

50. No, I do not like or trust Bernie. It would be a waste of her talent to be VP and he couldn't

help but undercut her if he was her VP (plus he's not well suited for diplomacy or consensus building).

[floppyboo]

51. Sanders was super clear that his running mate would share his agenda, age and sex 2ndary.

Probably good to look for someone in a state that is titling - Texas? (Castro) Florida (Gillum?)

I think Warren would be a great substitute for Schumer as far as the Senate goes. I like Schumer, but as far as making sure the bills are prioritized.

[floppyboo]

54. I should add - Warren would be a dream come true.

[tblue37]

52. I want Stacy Abrams as VP. nt

[yellowwoodII]

55. Fine with me

[doxyluv13]

56. I'm for it.

I'm for it. Don't know how the candidates see it. I think maybe Bernie is thinking about Stacey Abrams, and I'm not sure if Warren would choose him.







BTW I'm undecided between Elizabeth and Bernie, not totally undecided.

[mahina]

58. If they would, I would.

But with Sanders as VP, and then, we’re losing an important part of our bench for the future.

If Warren was willing to be VP, (noting your request for no speculation), I would suck it up and vote for them.

[ancianita]

59. I'd love it, too. I'd love Warren on any ticket.

[PETRUS]

60. Personally, I'd be happy about it.

But I don't think it would be a strategic choice for either of them to choose the other as their running mate.

[drmeow]

61. I'd like

Sanders/Klobacher
Warren/anyone but Sanders or Biden
Any other candidate/Warren

I think Sanders and Warren are to close ideologically to make a successful ticket. The older candidates need to bring on a younger candidate as a running mate (yes, I know that should mean no Biden/Warren but I'll make an exception). Other than with Sanders, I'd like to see Warren on the ticket.

On edits - just read other posts. Abrams would be great, too.

[Nanjeanne]

62. I'd love it but not sure two East Coasters are the way to go. I read that the Sanders

campaign had looked into whether someone could be both VP and Treasury Secy and they can. I’d really like Liz as head of treasury in a Sanders administration.

[LAS14]

66. Bernie's temperament makes him one of my least favored candidates. I would not feel good. nt

[Recursion]

69. It's not clear to me what Sanders brings to such a ticket

Warren/Castro makes a lot more sense