What if Mike Bloomberg had decided in 2019 to challenge Trump as the GOP nominee?

[guillaumeb]

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He was a Democrat prior to 2001,

What if he had decided early last year to run in every GOP primary, using his huge fortune, and run as the illusive, nearly extinct, GOP moderate. More of a Gerald Ford Republican.

What would have been the outcome? Unlike Weld, and Walsh, Bloomberg can easily self fund, and as we have seen , Bloomberg can fight Trump at the insult game as well.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

1. He would have got rolled.

[guillaumeb]

2. Possibly.

But if there were a core of non-racist GOP voters, and non-racist GOP politicians, this core might have been inspired to stand up.

[at140]

3. Perfect match!

Both of them have not released their taxes!!

[guillaumeb]

5. An excellent point.

The actual billionaire versus the man who lies about being a billionaire.

[blm]

4. He was a Democrat for most of his life, he switched to win post 2000,

knowing he could easily win a GOP primary while competing in the Dem primary would be an uphill battle.

[guillaumeb]

6. I will correct for that.

And yes, it would have been a battle.

[democrattotheend]

7. I wish he had

He wouldn't have won, but he probably could have damaged Trump more by doing that than running in the Democratic primary. He probably could have gotten a big enough share of the Republican primary vote to embarrass Trump.

[guillaumeb]

10. He might have inspired those GOP voters who claim to dislike Trump.

Whatever percentage that might be.

[Mike 03]

8. "He was a Republican for most of his life."

NO. NO. NO.

[guillaumeb]

9. I corrected that, but thank you.

[Squinch]

17. No you didnt. Check your "facts." He has NOT been a republican since 2001.

Cut the crap.

[guillaumeb]

20. Allow me to rephrase that.

I thought I corrected my error.

[Squinch]

22. And STILL what you have written is wrong and misleading. Stop trying to push your agenda

and look up what is the truth.

This is ridiculous.

[guillaumeb]

25. I wrote:

What if Mike Bloomberg had decided in 2019 to challenge Trump as the GOP nominee?

Last edited Wed Feb 19, 2020, 07:13 PM - Edit history (1)
He was a Democrat prior to 2001,

What if he had decided early last year to run in every GOP primary, using his huge fortune, and run as the illusive, nearly extinct, GOP moderate. More of a Gerald Ford Republican.

What would have been the outcome? Unlike Weld, and Walsh, Bloomberg can easily self fund, and as we have seen , Bloomberg can fight Trump at the insult game as well.

[Squinch]

26. Yes I know. And that is misleading and untruthful.

[guillaumeb]

28. Elaborate. eom

[Squinch]

31. If you're going to make a whole thread about how you think the guy is a repubican, I'm going

to leave it to you to find out what the truth is all on your own.

Look it up yourself.

[Hoyt]

11. Probably because he knows GOPers won't go for a Public Option, Housing, Min Wage

increase, gunz, expanded Medicare, etc.

[guillaumeb]

12. But he could have run as the sane GOP candidate.

Surely there are some sane GOP voters.

[TwilightZone]

19. About 10% max, according to polls.

[Squinch]

16. I'll add strong abortion rights, strong climate change policies,

a path to citizenship for all 11 million undocumented residents,

higher taxes on the wealthy and corporations and capital gains,

stronger gun control,

his work against the death penalty,

his commitment to reducing incarcerations...

Give me a minute. I'll give you 10 more liberal positions where he has put his money where his mouth is.

[Hoyt]

34. There ya go. And, he might actually deliver.

[Squinch]

37. Over 12 years in NYC, it did become clear that if he promises it, he does deliver.

[Squinch]

13. You DIDN'T correct that! He has NOT been a republican since 2001.

But I suspect you knew that.

SMDH.

[guillaumeb]

21. I just corrected my earlier "correction".

[Squinch]

24. Correct it again. Are you just making this up?

[AncientGeezer]

40. That's kind of his thing...I've called him on it often

[nobuddy]

14. I could be mistaken

But I thought some state parties passed new rules to make primarying trump not possible? Even so, he would get crushed. Sitting President still wildly popular with the goons. He’d beat Weld though.

And it’s still mostly winner take all last I checked. Maybe he picks up a state. Even here in the Northeast Moderate Republican area, there is no such thing. They’re all fucking maniacs. The old New England Republicans are now Democrats or unaffiliated.

[brooklynite]

15. No, he HASN'T been a Republican since 2001.

He ran for his third term as an Independent and then switched BACK to the Democratic Party afterwards.

[TwilightZone]

18. "He has been a Republican since 2001" -- still false.

He's been an Independent since 2007 and a Democrat since 2018.

That pretty much undermines your entire argument. He also only became a Republican for tactical purposes - the Dem primary was loaded. Since NYC is clearly pretty liberal, they didn't think he was some staunch conservative simply because of the R. Probably because he wasn't.

I don't want him to be the nominee, but the insistently false assertions people are making about him, particularly those that are easily debunked in about 30 seconds, are getting a little tiresome.

[TheBlackAdder]

23. Remember when Bloomberg promoted Scott Brown over Elizabeth Warren for senate?

.

And he gave $12 Million to fund Pat Toomey against the Democratic candidate.

.

[guillaumeb]

27. Thank you.

Bloomberg Is Raising Money To Help Pro-Gun Republican Scott Brown Defeat Elizabeth Warren

https://www.businessinsider.com/bloomberg-elizabeth-warren-scott-brown-massachusetts-senate-wall-street-guns-2012-7

[RandySF]

29. Trump turned the party into a cult.

[guillaumeb]

30. And the GOP allowed it. eom

[TwilightZone]

36. It already had a lot of cult-like properties.

He just brought it all together.

[customerserviceguy]

33. He'd be wasting his money

The party of Trump hates Bloomie, especially what they consider his nanny statism and his gun-grabbing. He'd have done about as badly as William Weld.

However, Bloomie doesn't do anything without data (I'm told) and he figured that he could wedge his way into our primary, if only Joe Biden would implode. His strategists concluded that was not only possible, but likely, so he jumped in. So far, events have played out the way that Bloomie and his advisors have planned.

[guillaumeb]

39. Too bad that he did not decide to challenge Trump in 2016. eom

[TwilightZone]

35. Your cutesy edits aren't making your assertion any more valid.

He wouldn't have run as a Republican last year because he wasn't a Republican then and hasn't been a Republican since 2007.

Further, a liberal Republican wasn't going to get very far in a Republican presidential primary.

[guillaumeb]

38. My edits were made to correct my own errors.

And anyone can run in the primaries. If we wanted to make a point, he could have run.

But I agree that, at this point, there does not seem to be a moderate wing of the GOP.