"My daughter is tall and busty and blond."

[WhiskeyGrinder]

https://www.wired.com/1999/02/bloomberg/

"My daughter is tall and busty and blonde," Michael Bloomberg is telling a table of Boston College graduates. "We went to China together. And what's a 16-year-old going to do on a business trip?" He pops another carefully buttered piece of bread in his mouth. "So I got her dates in every city in China." Remembering that I'm also at the table, he glares in my direction. "That's off the record!" he barks. It's typical Mike Bloomberg, wanting to have it both ways: imperious man of the people, coarse billionaire, earthy business leader, accessible control freak.

This is the opening paragraph about Bloomberg and his business. The 90s were something, y'all!

[lapfog_1]

1. When she was 12 did he have her pose like this?

if no... then Mike is demonstrably better than Trump.

[uponit7771]

5. America needs the opposite of Trump not just better, better than Trump is still failing.

[lapfog_1]

8. no... we need to beat Trump... no matter what.

besides we have NO ONE left who is the opposite...

That would be a woman of color who is on the left end of the democratic spectrum.

[uponit7771]

10. Amy is 100% opposite of Trump in every category, I disagree we don't have anyone on policy and

... socially 100% opposite of Trump.

We can't beat Trump with Bloomberg who has no swing state appeal (national polls mean nothing, that's M$M horse race crap) and who has said and done recently some overtly racist shit.

[blm]

28. Uh, pretty sure Warren is his opposite.

She’s anticorruption and he’s corrupt.

[emmaverybo]

30. Bravo.

[alittlelark]

18. That pic ALWAYS creeps me OUT !!!

[Celerity]

24. the parrots fucking add a nice touch to the mise en scene, pure class!!!

the rubes love it

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

2. Sounds kinda Trumpy.

[bullwinkle428]

17. Thanks for expressing what I was hesitant to type...

[uponit7771]

3. Yep, "better" than Trump when America needs the total opposite of Trump ... jus damn

[ancianita]

9. +1000

[applegrove]

4. It is just a steay stream of cringe-worthy things.

[guillaumeb]

6. "Something", yes.

Trump still talks the same way. In 2020.

[Blue_true]

7. The 90s were another era, with different norms.

To pass judgement in today on the ethos of two plus decades ago is the zenith of insanity, IMO.

Today? I may be wrong, but I believe that the most high profile person in Bloomberg news is a woman. Times change and people change with them.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

11. Nah, pretty sure that talking about your daughter sexually was shitty then, too.

How exactly does a person grow out of that?

[Blue_true]

13. That daughter today is a healthy 40 year old woman who heads her

a family foundation and has a child of her own.

I have heard guys describe their teen daughters urges before. Yes, it is cringeworthy, but not as unusual as you claim. Typically, they were looking at their own teen years and projecting that their daughters were not different and had different urges.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

14. I didn't claim it was unusual.

I said it was shitty.

[Blue_true]

16. Yes you did. It is pretty common.

Men especially project their sexual drives at that age on their daughters. Somehow, their sons escape the same treatment.

[dawg day]

26. I don't know about that--

But even if it's true, that there's no incest taboo, I think we can still expect grown men to keep these quite damaging (at least if spoken) sentiments to themselves. Men like Trump and Bloomberg who brag about it are beneath contempt.

[Blue_true]

29. It was not about incest. At least the men that I heard was not into that it seemed.

They just viewed their daughters as overly sexual creatures that would give in to the first sweet talker. I just think they were projecting how they acted at that age onto their daughters (wanting to have sex with any opposite sex person that interested them) - they couldn't imagine that maybe their daughters were gay, and frankly at that time neither could I (people grow and see more of the real world, at least I did).

[dawg day]

33. They're probably lamenting the paucity of chastity belts these days! :)

[Blue_true]

35. Pretty much all of them were controlling toward women, so I guess they did

long for the days of chastity belts (not that chastity belts stopped the determined).

[kcr]

19. Oh, come on.

This was not a social norm, nor acceptable in the 90s. People would be just as creeped out back then as now.

[Blue_true]

20. Are you a man?

I am one and I heard guys talk about their teen daughters urges. I believe now that they were projecting their own urges at that age, but no one said "hey, that is wrong".

[kcr]

21. Where did you hear them talk about it? Yes, it's true that some men have always been pigs

And always will be. But, even back in the 90s most people would be creeped out, regardless of what some men talk about in private groups. What you heard amongst your friends doesn't project to everyone else. And, Bloomie has been exposed and isn't looking too good anymore. Looks like you've been proved wrong.

[Blue_true]

22. As a graduate engineer in the 80s, much of the 90s.

Things began to change with Hillary in the White House as First Lady. I think that then men heard the first real opinion from a female on how women felt about being sexualized. Laura Bush, to her credit, followed up some on what Hillary had trail-blazed.

I am not saying that what I heard was right (although I said nothing in protest), I am just saying that Bloomberg's conduct in that area was not as unusual as some here want to make it.

You didn't answer my first question. Are you a man? I am a man who recounted stuff that I was witness to.

[kcr]

23. Don't think anyone said it was unusual.

Just refuting the claim it was ever openly accepted as the norm. And I didn't answer your question because it's irrelevant. Your anecdotal personal encounters, whatever your gender, don't change the fact that it wasn't a broad and openly accepted norm in the 90s for fathers to blatantly and openly sexualize their daughters in the manner that Trump and Bloomberg did and do.

[Blue_true]

25. Bloomberg was speaking to a small group.

I heard the stuff that I heard among small groups of men, some who had daughters and talked about that type of stuff. Maybe they were trying to shock me, I don't know.

Your gender does matter because if you are a woman, you likely didn't hear such things.

[emmaverybo]

32. It's patterns of behavior that suggest character and attitudes. Talking is a behavior. So how does

Bloomberg over the years talk about women? Not on one occasion. On several. And what has been his conduct towards them? These are just a few of the questions people will be asking about our candidate now that he’s really joined the race.

[aeromanKC]

12. Better the father set her up with chaperones than running wild on her own

[Blue_true]

15. I agree.

But he projected what he would have done at that age onto her. I have seen lots of men do that, so him doing it isn't earth shattering, IMO. But yeah, if you are a business person traveling with a teenager, you better have a plan for keeping them busy doing the right things.

[dawg day]

27. I wonder why a smart young woman wouldn't be enjoying being on a foreign trip--

so much to see and do.

I remember going to Europe on a church trip and all the other teens wanted to party and make out (you know, like at home), and I was always trying to get up a fun group to go to the museum. I fear that perhaps I wasn't the life of the party.

[ecstatic]

31. Disgusting. nt

[mr_lebowski]

34. Some of you folks are making it sound like he said 'yeah I got her laid all over the country'

or something.

What he said is not really all that bad, IMHO.

In a small, private setting, when she's not there, I mean.

Unlike orange shitstain who said right in front of Ivanka that if she wasn't his daughter maybe he'd be dating her ... on THE FREAKING VIEW