Van Jones: "A disaster for Mike Bloomberg. Titanic meet iceberg, and her name is Elizabeth Warren."

[BeyondGeography]

[Xipe Totec]

1. Iceberg meets Bloomberg nt

[GanjaGrower]

2. Terrible take

I thought Bloomberg did fairly well considering it was his first debate.

[Bradshaw3]

3. No unbiased observer agrees with that

He's getting hammered by the pundits. What was left of him after Liz did her thing.

[hangaleft]

39. Even Bloomberg himself doesn't agree with that

[uponit7771]

5. Nnnnnnnnno, ... no ... he was ... no

[squirecam]

6. The exact opposite of fairly well

Just an awful performance.

[Quixote1818]

7. With all those billions he should have hired the best debate coaches on the planet

and been ready for anything.

[gldstwmn]

13. Exactly.

[2naSalit]

8. She knocked him off his tree

and kept rattling him every chance she got. This was a debate to severely wound him and it did. He does not belong in this race and the real candidates let Mr. Affluenza know that he's not going anywhere in this race, not after all the work they are doing to win our votes.

They let him know that you cannot buy the election and we don't want another billionaire in the WH.

[ancianita]

30. If he hasn't lost the women's vote ...

[2naSalit]

32. Oh, I can't imagine

any woman would want to vote for him after this exposure. He's not going around meeting voters on the trail, he's schmoozing with the rich folks. And I wonder what he's telling them.

He doesn't have any idea what the "unfortunate" go through in these times. It's exponentially more egregious than whenever it was that he might have caught a glimpse.

[Drunken Irishman]

10. He had one good moment and it was going after Bernie houses...

Other than that, it was a disaster.

[GanjaGrower]

11. That was funny

[krissey]

35. I did like that one. Then Sanders said, most Vermont people have a second home, or

something.

[MoonlitKnight]

15. Lol

[Red Oak]

18. Bloomberg was horrible

He acted like he was disgusted having to be up on stage with these peasants.

Elizabeth Warren gutted him, and rightly so.

Bloomberg is no Democrat. He is a billionaire cut throat capitalist trying to buy the Presidency.

[relayerbob]

21. Um, no

We were willing to be open-minded. I kind of liked the idea that he put *his* money where his mouth is, not begging everyone for cash.

However, he failed.

His answers were evasive and at no point did he state what he stood for. He missed multiple opportunities to defuse the situation, or even turn it around to his advantage, and he was always on the defensive. If he didn't know that was all coming, then either he, or his advisors were really off base. He'll have another chance at the next debate, but this was definitely not a good, or even fair night.

[Merlot]

26. First debate? He was mayor of the largest city in the country for 12 years

If that didn't prep him for this debate, nothing would.

[pnwmom]

29. Bloomberg has participated in lots of debates in the past.

He was expected to perform in this one better than he did.

https://gothamist.com/news/bloombergs-past-debate-opponents-have-a-warning-for-democratic-candidates-dont-underestimate-him

Former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg knows his way around a debate stage. In his three previous bids for office, he faced off against competitors more than half a dozen times, both as a Republican and then later an Independent. His former rivals say that while Bloomberg might not shine on the debate stage, he certainly comes prepared.

Running for president as a Democrat, Bloomberg will suit up for the primary debate on Wednesday night—his first time facing five other candidates—thanks to a tweak last month to the national party’s debate qualification rules.

While Bloomberg officially qualified for the debate on Tuesday morning, when the latest NPR/PBS Newshour/Marist poll showed him with 19% support nationally, second only to Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, the NY Times reports that his campaign has been steadily prepping him to take the stage, running mock debates with stand-in candidates.

While his style is crisp and sometimes curt, those who have debated him before said the billionaire businessman’s minimalism should not be underestimated.

[tinrobot]

41. It was first time he had to speak for himself rather than through expensive ads.

And the product being sold didn't quite match those ads.

[ibegurpard]

42. I read somewhere

That the DNC amended their rules to get him on this debate stage for that very reason.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

43. Just wow!!

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!

[MFM008]

45. he should have known

it was coming.
Should have been ready.
Instead we have another ill tempered privileged
OLD
white guy.

[uponit7771]

4. K&R, she was Hulk Smash tonight

[Raine]

9. EXACTLY

Warren totally took him down!

[gldstwmn]

12. She gutted him like a fish.

[pattyloutwo]

37. She'll gut Trump

like that too, and people are so ready and waiting for it

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

44. Elizabeth did do great... perhaps, her best debate to date.

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!

[GaYellowDawg]

14. She kicked his ass!

I’ve seen some on here characterize her performance as “desperate.” He’ll, no. That was assertiveness. We need someone who can be relatable, but can go after Trump’s fat, wattled throat. I’m with her!!

[not fooled]

17. Yep

Even if he wouldn't debate her in person, she would use the media to dismantle red don and his dumbass insults and tweets. All without descending to being crude or vulgar.

[blm]

53. Exactly

[BigmanPigman]

16. Van Jones should know a disaster....

he sees one everytime he looks in the mirror. He said, "He is finally acting presidential" after the fucking moron's first SOTU speech (yes, I know the first one isn't called the SOTU).

[redstateblues]

27. I'll never forget that

[BigmanPigman]

40. He lost all respect from me that night.

What an idiot. Every time I see him for the rest of my life that sentence will play in my head.

[onetexan]

48. YUP, Van Jones is up to his usual no-good theatrics

[Duppers]

19. Bloomberg should just write checks & stay off

Any stage and ballot.

[Upthevibe]

20. I know...right!

WTF is he even doing?

[2naSalit]

34. That's what I've been saying. ...nt

[onetexan]

49. No. He just needs to be better prepared.

Bloomberg’s lack of national debate experience showed and he wasn't quick on retorts to Warren's attacks. His team needs to prep him better so he can anticipate the criticisms and talking points about his anti-women comments and harmful racial policies while he was mayor. Hopefully he’ll take to better coaching next time and have retorts handy. He also needs to speak more forcefully and confidently, and project leadership qualities as he did when he was mayor. I think a good strategy would be to point out all that he accomplished during his 3 terms as mayor of NY. He’s a darn good leader and we need someone with his caliber and status in the WH. That's IF Biden is not the nominee of course.

[HarlanPepper]

22. This sums it up

[DIVINEprividence]

23. Warren had a good night

Is it enough who knows? I lean toward Bloomberg but it is nice to see Warren get some respect because she has been treated rather shabbily by the press. Good for her. Remember. No matter how this shakes out. Bloomberg will drop a fortune to support the nominee. It is all good. Go team blue!

[C Moon]

24. It's the primaries: and it's obvious Warren set out to be was focused on Bloomberg tonight.

I just wish they would all focus on Trump. The country is at a horrible crossroads right now, our candidates better get their crap together.

[McTwisty]

25. Bloomberg is basically the same thing...

How on earth do we expect women or POC to come out in mass to support him.

[redstateblues]

28. Same thing? Hardly. Bloomberg has done more for gun control and climate change than most

Of the other candidates. He is flawed for sure but saying he’s just like Trump is just not true

[ancianita]

31. But she was right to frame him as voters likely would: as "our billionaire vs their billionaire."

I'm happy he supports Democrats, but he did, in fact, make right wing 1% talking points at least three times, by my count.

[womanofthehills]

38. Flawed and also boring - I can't see him inspiring anyone to vote

Esp women

[onetexan]

50. Agree, Warren's attacks on Bloomberg churned my stomach & i had to turn it off.

While i like her hard-hitting style, she needs to be directing it towards the Idiot and not her fellow Dem. I understand she's jockeying for POTUS but geez louize, stop eating your own. Not good to make frenemies given if you when the nomination you'll need the support of the others.

[BlueMTexpat]

59. Bloomberg is only a VERY recent

"fellow Dem." Among other things, his 2018 contributions went to quite a few GOPer Senators who let the Criminally Deranged Thug in the WH off scott-free. The Thug continues his scofflaw ways as a result.

Trump wasn't on the debate stage last night. Bloomberg was. And he was definitely a stand-in for the CDT.

Go Elizabeth!

[onetexan]

60. LOL get your facts straight. He was a Dem before. One has a right to switch parties last i checked.

[BlueMTexpat]

62. He left the party in 2001

and then endorsed Republicans AND contributed to the very poor specimens of human beings who now sit in the Senate.

For me, he is merely a Dem of convenience.

[onetexan]

63. So the fact he changed parties is a pain point for you. I also recall he spent $80M in 2018 for Dems

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/20/us/politics/mike-bloomberg-democrats-election.html

Sure he contributed to Republicans as well. So what? Alot of big donors contribute to both parties' candidates.

Here's another article about how he spent millions to help Dems win back the House. Hard to give him credit, eh?
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/30/us/politics/michael-bloomberg-democrats-donate.html

[BlueMTexpat]

64. Yes, it is a "pain point"

for me, as you so graciously put it.

He changed to the Republican Party at around the time today's GOP was turning into what it has become; the real changes came in 1994 with Newt Gingrich, for anyone who was paying attention. I give Bloomberg credit for recognizing the brokenness of the GOP and changing to an Independent. But it took him until AFTER Barack Obama's Admin to return to the Democratic Party.

Why AFTER Obama? Why not before then or even during that Admin when Obama was facing a literal wall of GOP opposition? Perhaps only to run for President in 2020? Hmmm. To me, that smacks of being a "Democrat of convenience," much as Sanders does whenever he runs for President, but NOT for his Senate seat. For Bloomberg, it's also not just the party changes. It's the timing.

So while you may be a supporter, I am NOT one.

And that's that. Period.

[Algernon Moncrieff]

33. Van Jones first reaction to the Trump election stuck with me: "It was a Whitelash"

I tend to trust his hot take here, as well.

[krissey]

36. Warren was awesome and they had every right to go after Bloomberg.

The man said today that three should drop out that it was a two man race. Pretty arrogant when everyone else has been working their ass off for months.

[BeckyDem]

46. Bloombergs only opponent who QUOTED HIM. WARREN 2020!!!!!!!!

She speaks for me on every single issue, she spoke truth to power. She left him in the dust.

[BeyondGeography]

51. Abrams went after Bailey?

Now that is fucked up.

[Squinch]

55. Abrams is bad now?

[Squinch]

57. JFC. We are one dumb bunch.

[BeckyDem]

58. wow. After last night I don't think we have to worry about either one of them.

Warren came prepared and did the job that needed to be done.

[DonaldsRump]

52. If Senator Warren doesn't win the nomination

She should be VP on the ticket.

I have come to GREATLY admire her over the last year. She takes no s*it from anyone, and she's remarkably down to earth in an extremely intellectual but folksy way. Because she HAS PERSISTED, she has my admiration and potentially my vote going forward.

(I didn't see the debate, but I heard bits on the radio).

[Squinch]

54. If Van Johnson is saying it was a disaster for him, he must have done better than I thought.

This is the guy who said, "Donald Trump became president tonight" in response to a lame snorting speech, isn't it?

[The Mouth]

61. Worst Democrat since Andrew Jackson