The Bernie supporters in the crowd yelling "we don't want you!" at Biden at the end were disgusting

[CalFione]

They sat there quietly for 2 hours, only to wait until Biden was about to speak to yell at him.


But Bernie wants to say that "99.9% of my supporters are decent people!"


Man, that 0.1% sure does get around and make themselves noticed.

[Cha]

1. Says more about them than anything about Joe Biden.

[Baitball Blogger]

10. Yup. Biden looked more sympathetic.

And it was nearly impossible to hear what they said.

[Farmer-Rick]

104. They are NOT Bernie Supporters. The Guardian reporter who tweeted live wrote it was immigrants

"Democrats’ closing statements were marked by a dramatic intervention, when protesters erupted in the middle of Joe Biden’s final remarks.

Looks like those protesters were immigrant rights activists, who lamented the lack of discussion around immigration during the debate."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2020/feb/19/debate-tonight-live-democratic-news-nevada-bernie-sanders-mike-bloomberg-latest

More info and video at link.

It's probably a Russian sponsored and manipulated group trying to divide democratic voters.

[TheBlackAdder]

46. News says it was pro-immigration supporters upset that Obama accellerated immigration enforcement.

[sweetloukillbot]

52. That makes sense

Biden has been dogged by activists demanding a halt to all deportations, including felons.

[Demsrule86]

85. They are a Sanders supporting group.

[aikoaiko]

97. Do you have any evidence at all for that assertion?

because no one except Bernie haters on forums and social media appear to be saying they are Bernie supporters.

It was Refugee and Immigrant Center for Education and Legal Services (RAICES) activists

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/2/19/21145039/nevada-democratic-debate-protesters-hecklers

Protesters from RAICES, a prominent immigrant rights group, interrupted former Vice President Joe Biden’s closing remarks during Wednesday’s Democratic debate, chanting “No kids in cages!” and “Don’t look away!”

The protesters also yelled, “You deported 3 million people!” in reference to the record-high deportations that occurred during Biden’s time as vice president, for which advocates called former President Barack Obama the “deporter in chief”:

https://www.raicestexas.org/

[Demsrule86]

107. Yes...this is the same group that has attacked Biden before and they are part of a large group of

progressive groups who support Sanders... There was also some from a 501 group there.

"Make the Road Action, an immigrant rights group, is endorsing Bernie Sanders for president, lending the Vermont senator significant political muscle in the early caucus state of Nevada and a delegate-heavy group of northeastern states.

The 10-year-old organization, which mobilizes immigrants and minority communities for political action in Connecticut, Nevada, New Jersey, New York and Pennsylvania, has not previously endorsed candidates in presidential races. But the endorsement of Sanders, provided first to POLITICO, comes after a months-long process of evaluating Democratic campaign platforms and holding meetings with a number of candidates."

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/15/bernie-sanders-immigrant-rights-group-endorsement-098939

[aikoaiko]

121. As my prior email indicates, it was a different group.

Unless there is some kind of other connection.

[highplainsdem]

2. Sanders should condemn what they did. Otherwise, he's complicit.

[TomCADem]

12. Pete B. Hit The Nail on the Head With Bernie.

He disclaim responsibility and does not lift a finger to stop such behavior. Instead, he says that "all campaigns" need to stop.

[Historic NY]

72. Same crap from 2016.

[JudyM]

100. It was DACA folks, not Sanders supporters.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=544494

[WinstonSmith4740]

3. I also noticed...

Bernie did nothing to stop it.

[Polybius]

88. What could he have done at the moment?

The mic wasn't his, and he likely had no idea it was from his supporters.

[Bradical79]

116. Why would he?

They weren't his people.

[Laelth]

4. The Vice President handled that disruption very well, I think. n/t

-Laelth

[BlueIdaho]

5. Bernie could have stopped them

And he didn’t.

[at140]

31. It was over pretty quick, you wanted Sanders to yell even louder to stop the misbehavers?

This incident reflects on the unruly protesters, not Sanders. No one can control their millions of followers. There always will be some idiots behave badly.

[BlueIdaho]

35. I wanted him to look like a leader

He didn’t.

[at140]

43. And do what exactly?

The shouters were escorted out in 15 seconds. There was no way in hell any person on that stage can force those protesters to stop shouting within 15 seconds.

[calimary]

69. But oddly enough, nobody else's supporters were loud 'n' rude like that.

Wonder why that is?

[at140]

91. Why do you assume they must be Sanders supporters?

Were they wearing tee shirts with Sanders name on it?
Did they shout something favoring Sanders?
Keep in mind, Biden has more than 1 competing against him.
Disrupters are ubiquitous and they represent 0.01% of the audience,
and it is best to ignore them completely, instead of making it an issue
and give them additional publicity, which is what they are looking for.

[Bradical79]

117. Neither were Bernie's

[calimary]

124. Perhaps you weren't here in 2016 when a bunch of us were literally run off this site by

the "bros." They were aggressive, ruthless and relentless, and they were all about shoving Bernie down our throats when we dared to challenge him, voice our objections to him, or assert our support for Hillary Clinton. I was one of them. And my case was mild compared to what others went through here. The offenders were absolutely Bernie people.

Let's just say they weren't part of some Martin O'Malley "mob" (hint: he didn't have one).

[Sewa]

78. I don't know, maybe wave his arms to

signal them to stop and say into the microphone in front of him “ that behavior is unacceptable “. That doesn’t sound to difficult, does it?

[at140]

90. Are you assuming the disrupters were Sanders supporters?

Please post some evidence.

[Sewa]

125. No, I just answered your question

You seemed to believe it would be a difficult task.

[arthritisR_US]

73. Exactly! His followers were the same in

2016. I was disgusted then, I am still today.

[Autumn]

42. Why should Bernie stop them? They weren't his supporters.

https://time.com/5676640/biden-protesters-democratic-debate/

Here's What Protesters Were Shouting at Joe Biden During the Third Democratic Debate

During the third Democratic presidential primary debate, protestors interrupted former Vice President Joe Biden as he was about to answer a question about how a significant setback shaped him.

To viewers at home, it was not immediately clear what the protestors were saying. But Jess Davidson, executive director of the advocacy organization End Rape on Campus, confirmed to TIME that the group was chanting about the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA).

Davidson also tweeted that the protestors were chanting “we are DACA recipients. Our lives are at risk.” She also wrote that at least some protesters got on the stage.

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[Demsrule86]

87. Yes they were.

[Autumn]

95. They were the DACA protesters. They tweeted about it after.

[Demsrule86]

108. Yeah and without Biden and Obama, helping Dreamers, they would be cooling their heels in

wherever they come from...Trump wins...( and they never go after the right) and they are gone. But do attack those who try to help you really...

[at140]

127. Daca people must be convinced Bernie helps them more?

Have you seen any evidence otherwise? Such as Bernie would deport the DACA people?
Or not give them a path to citizenship? Is it possible DACA people believe in Bernie more now?

[relayerbob]

6. Yes

they proved the points made earlier, and he should have instantly shut them down.

He didn't. That says everything I need to know

[NurseJackie]

7. Yes they are.

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Will they be defended here? Will that type of behavior be deemed "acceptable"? Will excuses be made?

[lapucelle]

81. Not only will the attack be defended,

but it will also be claimed that that they call President Obama "the deporter in chief".

[PatSeg]

8. How did you find how they were Bernie supporters?

I haven't heard anything yet.

[jberryhill]

57. Because if anyone behaves poorly, it is useful to call them that

[JudyM]

99. The notably absent response speaks volumes.

[Bradical79]

119. They don't. They're lying rat fuckers.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

126. !!!

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!

[Renew Deal]

9. He doesn't have a problem attacking the .1% in other cases.

[YOHABLO]

11. So other than venting your displeasure. What do you want us to do?

We can't stop idiots from being idiots.

[lapucelle]

22. "We are powerless." N/T

[Autumn]

40. It wasn't Bernie people, People can lie all they want to but the truth gets out. In this case damn

quick. IMO the words "we don't want you!" are a deliberate lie. What was said was “we are DACA recipients. Our lives are at risk.” Not even close to what the OP is saying. People were there, not posting bull crap on line. But it sure does fit their phony narrative about Bernie supporters.

https://time.com/5676640/biden-protesters-democratic-debate/

During the third Democratic presidential primary debate, protestors interrupted former Vice President Joe Biden as he was about to answer a question about how a significant setback shaped him.

To viewers at home, it was not immediately clear what the protestors were saying. But Jess Davidson, executive director of the advocacy organization End Rape on Campus, confirmed to TIME that the group was chanting about the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA).

Davidson also tweeted that the protestors were chanting “we are DACA recipients. Our lives are at risk.” She also wrote that at least some protesters got on the stage.
Another person also tweeted a video of a man wearing a shirt that read “Defend DACA, Abolish ICE, citizenship for all” being escorted out of the debate.

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[tblue37]

13. I wondered what that was. Shameful display. nt

[Fiendish Thingy]

14. How do you know they were Bernie supporters? Nt

[at140]

33. Good question! Did they have Bernie signs on shirts??

[Fiendish Thingy]

39. Another thread states they were DACA supporters who have interrupted Biden before nt

[at140]

47. There you go! Bernie is not my choice but

I hate knee jerk unjustified blaming any candidate.

[enid602]

15. supporters

Fascists all, defending a modern day Don Quixote.

[jcgoldie]

16. They werent Bernie supporters

They were immigrant rights activists and they have been protesting Biden rightly or wrongly throughout the debates. Pay attention or don't point fingers.

[easttexaslefty]

17. https://time.com/5676640/biden-protesters-democratic-debate/

[lapucelle]

41. Your link is to a story from the September debate. It's dated September 13, 2019

[Bradical79]

120. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/19/us/politics/immigration-protest-democratic-debate.html

[napi21]

18. I sure hope Bernie pubicly punishes them for that swtupid outbirst! It shamed the Democrats!

I thought we were better than that. It's something the Trumpers would do. Tell 'em Bernie, or YOU will pay the price for their antics.

[Bradical79]

76. They weren't Bernie people

They were immigration rights activists that have been following Biden around. They're protesting the Obama administration's deportation record. It's not the first time they've done this.

[Autumn]

19. Not true. It's been confirmed that the group was chanting about DACA.

https://time.com/5676640/biden-protesters-democratic-debate/

During the third Democratic presidential primary debate, protestors interrupted former Vice President Joe Biden as he was about to answer a question about how a significant setback shaped him.

To viewers at home, it was not immediately clear what the protestors were saying. But Jess Davidson, executive director of the advocacy organization End Rape on Campus, confirmed to TIME that the group was chanting about the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA).

Davidson also tweeted that the protestors were chanting “we are DACA recipients. Our lives are at risk.” She also wrote that at least some protesters got on the stage.

Davidson told TIME via Twitter that she was “in the front row of the side stand near them and watched them be escorted out.”
Another person also tweeted a video of a man wearing a shirt that read “Defend DACA, Abolish ICE, citizenship for all” being escorted out of the debate.

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[CalFione]

25. That link is about the 3rd debate back in September. Not about tonight.

[jcgoldie]

30. Its the same group

They have been at every debate. What was your basis for calling them "Bernie supporters" again?

[CalFione]

34. That's not what they were yelling tonight.

Tonight they yelled "we don't want you!"


And it is a group that supports Bernie.

[at140]

49. How do you know? Did they wear Bernie tee-shirts?

or are you a mind reader?

[Autumn]

50. It's the same group who protested him in September. The same group.

They announced that they would be protesting.

Link to tweet

[CalFione]

53. Yes, and RAICES ACTION has aligned itself with Sanders, despite not explicitly endorsing

[Autumn]

55. If Bernie dropped out tomorrow they would still protest Biden.

[Cal Carpenter]

66. THIS

[Anon-C]

62. RAICES Action is affiliated with Lucy Flores who has deep history with Sander's movement and a more

... recent history with Joe Biden.

[Autumn]

63. So? If Bernie dropped out tomorrow they will still protest Biden at the next event. nt

[Demsrule86]

109. I doubt it...and kind of ironic since Sanders is the only Democrat up on that stage who voted

against immigration reform.

[lapucelle]

45. That story and the tweets are from the September 13, 2019 debate.

That story is 5 months old.

[Autumn]

54. It's the same group that protested Biden in Sept.

Link to tweet

[lapucelle]

61. Why didn't they shout down any of the candidates who are still serving in Congress

and are in a position to address their concerns through governmental action?

Granted, the group doesn't like Democrats in general and are obviously unwilling to take on Trump, but why go after Joe Biden, especially given the past positions of one of the sitting senators on the stage?

As the candidates take the debate stage on Wednesday, the first question that should be asked is this: What lessons have Democrats learned from their failed approach to immigration in the past? Only when this question is answered, can the party have a productive approach about where to go from here.

https://www.latinorebels.com/2020/02/18/openlettertodncanddemocraticcandidates/

[Bradical79]

77. They're going after Biden because he was Obama's VP

Obama was POTUS in case you've forgotten, and some activists (like these people) refered to him as "Deporter in Chief".

[lapucelle]

80. This group calls Barack Obama "the deporter in chief"? What do they call Trump? N/T

[lapucelle]

122. ,,,

[democrattotheend]

70. That makes sense. They specifically targeted Biden

And not Bloomberg, who right now is the biggest target for Bernie supporters because he's the epitome of everything Bernie's been railing against.

[ancianita]

21. It just made Biden look better, imo.

[krissey]

23. Wow. Theyw ill continue as Sanders ignores the criticism and says everyone does it or bad people

everywhere.

[Mike Niendorff]

24. ???

From what I'm seeing here, this involved DACA, not "Bernie supporters".


MDN

[CalFione]

27. No, that was the 3rd debate back in September. Not tonight's.

[Mike Niendorff]

56. Ok, I watched this live tonight

What evidence is there that these were "Bernie supporters"?

I could barely make out anything they were saying, and I haven't seen any reporting suggesting this was a pro-Sanders group.

Help me out here, what am I missing?


MDN

[CalFione]

60. They are RAICES ACTION, which has aligned itself behind Bernie Sanders

...despite not explicitly endorsing.

[Mike Niendorff]

79. The title of the thread says "Bernie supporters"

And so far, your evidence simply does not establish that claim.

The NY Times article linked in multiple follow-ups below gives a lot better explanation as to what was actually going on with all this tonight.


MDN

[underthematrix]

26. Russian psyop

[rzemanfl]

106. Our lives are a Russian psyop these days.

Sick of it.

[apcalc]

28. Vile

[cliffside]

29. Post your proof that they were Bernie supporters. nt

[Maru Kitteh]

32. WOW. You would think he would have stepped in and told them to STFU!

But, well - - - - Bernie.

[GanjaGrower]

36. Never been a fan of the heckler's veto

It’s immature and un-American. Bernie really needs to denounce this type of behavior (he won’t)

[hay rick]

37. Not Sanders supporters, DACA protestors. This thread is propagating a falsehood.

https://twitter.com/RAICESACTION

[CalFione]

44. RAICES ACTION, while not explicitly endorsing, largely supports Bernie Sanders

[Demsrule86]

89. They are sanders supporters....you can deny it ...hope it makes some think

before voting for Sanders in the primary.

[JFlash]

38. Outside agitators!

Very unhelpful

[aikoaiko]

48. How do you know they were Bernie supporters?

What did they say?

[herding cats]

59. It can be figured out.

Not just anyone gets in.

We'll know eventually who they were. As we always do. 😑

[democrattotheend]

51. Why are people like that automatically attributed to Bernie?

People just make those assumptions every time someone acts up.

[herding cats]

58. Is that what that was?!

That's not cool in anyway!! 😡

[Cal Carpenter]

65. No, it is not

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/19/us/politics/immigration-protest-democratic-debate.html

[Cal Carpenter]

64. Your thread title is false. N.Y. Times:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/19/us/politics/immigration-protest-democratic-debate.html

[jmg257]

94. Sucked when Bernie supporters bombed Pearl Harbor, too.

“You deported three million people,” one of the protesters yelled as the former vice president began his closing remarks. The demonstrators were quickly escorted away.

RAICES Action, an immigrant rights group, said on Twitter that it was responsible for the protest. The demonstrators were immediately escorted out of the debate, and Mr. Biden resumed his closing statement.

[Joinfortmill]

67. Well

If they're lucky, they'll get him.

[calimary]

68. Gee, why am I not surprised...

Nobody else’s supporters were rude and acted up like that.

And I thought what Bernie did say about that was milquetoast at best.

[still_one]

71. When I go over and read the comments from Yahoo on this, the comments couldn't be happier that

Biden was getting dissed.

It should be noted that Yahoo comments are a right wing cesspoll

So if these protesters think they were helping their cause, they are out of their f**king minds

[musicblind]

74. Do we know they were Sanders supporters?

We shouldn't assume.

[Meowmee]

75. Yes it was disgusting

To see in a dem debate... is it sure they were Bernie supporters? He should have told them to stop if so. I can’t help but feel Biden would have told his supporters to stop if they had done something like that.

[democratisphere]

82. He and his will get no support from me.

[brutus smith]

84. And you just summed up what a lot of Biden supporters wil do. Not vote for the Democratic nominee.

Now that is disgusting.

[democratisphere]

86. Why shoot yourself in the foot twice.

Time to get smart before it is too GD late!

[Demsrule86]

110. What is disgusting is your saying that the poster won't vote for the Democratic nominee in the

general, he/ she didn't say that...nice try won't work.

[nobuddy]

83. Those dastardly Bernie Bros!

[honest.abe]

92. Assholes.

[aikoaiko]

93. It was Refugee and Immigrant Center for Education and Legal Services (RAICES) activists

Don't do the racist thing of ignoring or dismissing them as "Bernie supporters",


https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/2/19/21145039/nevada-democratic-debate-protesters-hecklers

Protesters from RAICES, a prominent immigrant rights group, interrupted former Vice President Joe Biden’s closing remarks during Wednesday’s Democratic debate, chanting “No kids in cages!” and “Don’t look away!”

The protesters also yelled, “You deported 3 million people!” in reference to the record-high deportations that occurred during Biden’s time as vice president, for which advocates called former President Barack Obama the “deporter in chief”:


https://www.raicestexas.org/

[democrattotheend]

96. That makes more sense

I couldn't understand why, if they were Bernie supporters, they would target Biden and not Bloomberg. Since Bloomberg got in he's Target Number Uno for most Bernie supporters, because he's a billionaire who epitomizes a lot of the things Bernie is against. This seems like Biden is being targeted because of deportations that happened in the Obama administration.

[rsdsharp]

98. I couldn't hear what they were saying

but I looked at my wife and said, "Bernie supporters."

[Hoyt]

101. Prepare for trump II.

[elleng]

102. Falling for someone's disinformation scheme.

STOP it.

'During the third Democratic presidential primary debate, protestors interrupted former Vice President Joe Biden as he was about to answer a question about how a significant setback shaped him.

To viewers at home, it was not immediately clear what the protestors were saying. But Jess Davidson, executive director of the advocacy organization End Rape on Campus, confirmed to TIME that the group was chanting about the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA).

Davidson also tweeted that the protestors were chanting “we are DACA recipients. Our lives are at risk.” She also wrote that at least some protesters got on the stage.'

https://time.com/5676640/biden-protesters-democratic-debate/

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287544081

[PubliusEnigma]

103. Bernie is mum on the subject.

[rzemanfl]

105. Bookmarking. n/t

[Paladin]

111. Disgusting, but typical. (nt)

[Squinch]

112. Good chance they're going to be the ones running the country.

Better chance they'll hand the country to trump.

[Doremus]

113. Except they weren't Bernie supporters.

Care to amend your OP or don't you care about the truth since it's not 'your guy'?

[JudyM]

114. Yeah, the OP is aware.

Integrity

[PTWB]

123. When are you going to delete this? It seems these were not Bernie supporters.

[Gothmog]

128. This reminds me of the National Convention

Normally going to a national convention is a once in a life time experience. I have worked really hard inside the party on campaigns and voter protection issues for a very long time to earn this trip. Too bad that sanders and his vetted delegates ruined that experience and did their best to help trump. A candidate has absolute approval rights over their pledged delegates because these delegates can change their votes and these delegates represent the candidate and campaign. I helped vet Clinton delegates and I know that I was vetted. The Clinton campaign told us that we represent her and that our actions would reflect on her and her campaign.

In contrast, sanders sent one very weak text the Sunday night before the convention and then did little or nothing to control his delegates. It was nasty I was there when the sanders delegates booed Congressman John Lewis. I was warned about this stunt 30 minutes before it happened by the Clinton campaign whip. According to my whip, sanders was asked to stop this event and declined. That incident will be used against sanders by Russia to suppress the African American vote just as was done in 2016

Link to tweet

Russia will just run material showing sanders delegates booing John Lewis, Elijah Cummings and others to suppress the vote of African American voters and I feel that this tactic would be very effective

I was at the Texas delegation breakfast when a group of sanders delegates marched in and demanded that we condemn Clinton and change our votes to sanders.

sanders spoke to the Texas delegation the next morning and his speech was again solely about himself. There was a mini-riot due to his delegates the prior morning and the only thing that sanders talked about was himself. sanders did nothing to deal with the fact that his delegates were out of control and did nothing to try to help Hillary Clinton win the general election.

Finally a group of sanders delegates yelled at my daughter and called her the c-Word because she would not try to get me to change my vote. Again sanders was asked to tell his delegates to behave during the convention and sanders refused