Dems unwittingly gave up WH tonight

[Laura PourMeADrink]

Unless everything does a complete turnaround.

Instead of concentrating exclusively on the monster in the WH, they fought against Bloomberg. How silly and shortsighted and stupendously inane. The guy who's spending MILLIONS on ads against the greatest threat to life as we know it? And we attack? Whoever Dems are paying for strategy advice - they are paying too much.

Honestly have absolutely zero ideas on how to turn this ship around. But, bet Carville or Bill Clinton know.

Meanwhile trump marches on with his criminality. And our side says, " not gonna go after anything except maybe judge tampering.".

[Renew Deal]

1. When does Bloomberg become a threat to them?

He certainly is a threat to Biden already.

[still_one]

19. Exactly. Ignore him would be a big mistake

[LW1977]

2. Yawwwn

Knee jerk would be an understatement ..

[cherryinpa]

3. Bit pessimistic

Bit pessimistic.

Lot can happen between now and Nov.

Both Biden’s and Warren gave strong performance.

Even Pete showed good instinct.

We still got great chances.

[renate]

4. I wondered/worried about that too

But having embarrassed himself in front of Trump and everybody, he may go ahead and spend the money to defeat Trump, both as a saving-face thing to still beat Trump and a hero thing for Democrats.

I hope that’s what will happen anyway. But yeah, yikes... I hope their attacks on him don’t backfire.

[Bradshaw3]

5. So did this get removed?

And reposted? I don't see the earlier exact same post listed. Like I said, drumpf agrees with you.

[ancianita]

9. Seriously. This a wrong take on the Democrats and this debate tonight.

[Bradshaw3]

12. It's the exact same thread posted earlier

That now seems to be gone. If it was removed I have never seen a poster do that. I hope not, especially since it is such a negative take not to mention a false assessment.

[ancianita]

16. If it's been removed, they can't post again, as I understand it. Maybe I'm wrong.

[chowder66]

24. It was locked because it wasn't in the Primaries forum. nt

[k2qb3]

6. Nah...

This fight had to happen.

The field had to narrow.

Bloomberg would be a disaster as a nominee, the best thing that could possibly happen in this race is for him to drop out so the real candidates can fight it out.

Probably good that Pete and Amy tanked too.

[PatSeg]

10. I agree

They had to take Bloomberg out. There isn't a lot of time left and he should not become the nominee. He was threat to all of them.

[emmaverybo]

20. Yes!

[Moderateguy]

7. As a Bloomberg supporter I disagree

Bloomberg is going no where and he’ll get many more debates. This is a learning opportunity for him and I think he will better prepare next time

[Cuthbert Allgood]

28. This wasn't his first debate.

He did horrible. How did he not prepare for what was thrown at him. He could have paid me a 100 grand and I would have prepared him for those points because I knew they were coming. How did he or his prep people not know.

My thought? They did know. This is as good as he can get in addressing those things.

[ancianita]

8. They've got plenty of time to jump Trump. Your negativity shows you don't get what selling

confidence about this party is about. Trump will be easy when the right Dem gets the nomination.

[relayerbob]

11. Nah

What's clear is that they are agreed on most topics, and as far as attacking Trump, what's the point. They would be preaching to the choir. Yes, it was a lot more forceful than in the past, but in the end, this is *nothing* compared to what Trump will be be doing

[R B Garr]

13. I see what you are saying. It was a bit overdone.

Just attacking billionaires is beyond inane. Sanders whining that billionaires shouldn’t exist was so inane and simple.

Carville already said so much last week that is 100% spot on.

[Joinfortmill]

14. They're fighting for the nomination

To do that they fight each other.

[Jack-o-Lantern]

15. Well, when Bloomberg drops out (and he will)...

I just hope he will use a few millions of those billions to back the Dem candidate.

[Raine]

17. The majority of people in this country can all stipulate to Trump

being horrid. We don't need to hear each Democratic candidate say it continually, save it for the GE. Differentiating yourself from the Democratic pack is what's important now for the candidates. That way the voters can choose who's up to defeating Trump..

[jmg257]

18. In order to face trump, they have to win the primary. And all these

People WANT to win.

1st things first, and exposing MB is a part of that.

[BusyBeingBest]

21. Judging from post debate reaction and analysis, because I'm not a debate watcher--

I am afraid you might be right. I'm seeing some nasty stuff out there.

[LenaBaby61]

22. I don't think they've given up the White House necessarily ....

Because Warren had every right to go after him on stop and frisk which was horrible for minorities.

But why oh WHY didn't Liz go after the crazy, treasonous, wanna-be billionaire, clown-car in the White House at the same time? WHY didn't Warren say Well, I never heard anything about you stealing monies from Veterans or Cancer patients like tRump did via his charity. Good lord, because for as bad as Bloomberg may be, and he's NO saint whatsoever, the treasonous, racist, hog installed into our White House with the help of his puppet-master putin and the rest of his party of putin is 10 x's worse than Bloomberg is, because for as bad as Bloomberg is on a lot of things, I don't ever recall him asking the ruskies help for anything. In fact, Bloomberg did in some ways help Dems win the Congress with his monies, and if we hadn't have won the Congress, tRump's mission of turning the USA into the USSR would nearly be complete. That hog has never, ever done ANYTHING to help anybody but himself.

PLEASE Dems, focus on the orange manage in the White House.


As for the press, I don't recall them asking tRump about sexual assault or about how his charity was shut down et al. Nope, the corporate media is not going to go after tReasonous fat ass, or ask him questions like they asked Dems tonight. They have learned NOTHING from 2016 and "But her emails."

[Laura PourMeADrink]

25. Well, I never heard anything about you stealing monies from Veterans or Cancer patients like tRump

did.

YES. There are literally a zillion trump jabs to pick from.

Its almost like someone has told them they will get fined if they talk trump.

Heard a Dem strategist on debate night 1 say it should be 1/2 about yourself and half about who you are running against - trump. That's what you should allow people to imagine - what you'd be like against him.

[rockfordfile]

23. BS This was a good debate that had to happen

[Squinch]

26. I agree. We're going to end up with Bernie haranguing us to a 40 state loss.

I am very worried.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

27. Bloomberg's poor performance in the debate won't stop him

from continuing to spend millions on his advertising, which has been very effective and which reaches a lot more people than a tv debate. I don't like Bloomberg but I'm not counting him out yet. The candidates are fighting for the nomination, which is what primaries are for. Everybody already agrees that Trump sucks.

[Evergreen Emerald]

29. That is what I was thinking too.

It is time to stop acting like this is a normal election.

[Mz Pip]

30. Wrong strategy

The focus should have been going after the front runner. They went after the guy polling in single digits.

[dalton99a]

38. +1. I don't see Bloomberg writing checks for people who publicly humiliated him on national TV

I hope his anti-Trump ads will continue

[BusyBeingBest]

39. I think being denounced as racist and sexist for two hours

was something he knew was coming--hopefully.

[Chemisse]

31. And they should all hold hands and sing Kumbaya?

They are competing with each other right now and the best at doing so will win. Primaries are supposed to weed out the weakest candidates and leave us with the one who can best go on to attack Trump in the GE.

We need to be evaluating their ideas and how well they express and defend them. Thankfully, the primaries will be over in due course and we can focus on attacking Trump at that time.

[LakeArenal]

32. Well, I think Bloomberg promised to spend his millions defeating trump

No matter who. So if he doesn’t keep that promise, he shouldn’t be president anyway.

Which won’t surprise me as he’s a DINO. As some believe Sanders is.

I’m sticking with the most qualified and hope in the end that matters to voters.

[honest.abe]

33. Democrats in a circular firing squad while Trump sits back and laughs.

I know Bloomberg has alot serious issues but to relentlessly attack him was not the right or smart thing to do. He has decided to be on our side and is willing to spends his billions to help us win. With what happened last night, few will take him or his ads seriously. Trump just jumped up several notches and it may indeed cost us the WH.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

44. Democrats care more about the overall goal of getting rid

Of trump than our candidates do. Makes sense..they are toiling to get elected. But have different goals.

[Merlot]

34. A debate that no one but die-hards and talking heads watched?

Talking about dems being "unwitting" is rather, well, republican.

[honest.abe]

35. Its being widely reporting on all news sites.

It will have an impact.

[Merlot]

36. That's not reporting, it's an opinion

[honest.abe]

40. I was referring to what happened at the debate.

News sites are reporting that so even people who didnt watch the debate are getting information about the debate.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

41. Please do not imply I am a republican. Are we supposed to add

A step to everything we think and say, better stop and make sure republicans aren't thinking same thought?

[Hearthrob]

37. Impossible fantasy

At this moment I don't think that any of the candidates have the star factor.

So my fantasy is that whomever wins the primary immediately announces that all of the dem contenders will havè a chance to fill the new cabinet or posts of their choice or their expertise.
Like Warren for treasury, Biden Sec of state, Harris attorney general etc.

No disenchanted voters hopefully.
Needs to be announced and promoted day after the primary to build momentum and have time to form a coalition- of adults in the rooms.

Yea, I know. Lame.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

42. No not lame. Think we may have to shift our typical

focus to a focus of getting rid of the monster instead of being madly in love with our candidate. And VP and cabinet choices something to look forward to. PS Biden probably doesn't want to fly all over world like SOSs do?

[HarlanPepper]

43. Might be time to pour a drink.