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Boston Globe: Grading the debate performance of the Democratic candidates (Original Post) TexasTowelie Feb 2020 OP
I knew it would be pindell. Cha Feb 2020 #1
I've seen some pretty bad takes on this debate. W_HAMILTON Feb 2020 #2
It's as if media didn't even objectively see the same debate we watched. Talk about filters... ancianita Feb 2020 #11
Joe did fantastic. He looked like a movie star portraying a campaign speech. Prosper Feb 2020 #27
Yeah, that is weird. I'd go something like this. DanTex Feb 2020 #3
That seems about right. But I'd flip Biden and Sanders. calimary Feb 2020 #13
Absolutely. I might give mayor Pete a "d" jimfields33 Feb 2020 #37
That about sums it up for me too, though I would have switched Klobuchar and Bloomberg. HerbChestnut Feb 2020 #4
Wow Biden did the same as Bloomberg huh? Yeah OK. nt UniteFightBack Feb 2020 #5
I'd say that's way off. Garrett78 Feb 2020 #6
I disagree too. elleng Feb 2020 #7
I disagree with it completely, too. ancianita Feb 2020 #8
James Pindell is a Warren cheerleader Green Line Feb 2020 #9
I read on the last pindell review that gave BS an A Cha Feb 2020 #15
Wow... Biden and Sanders should be swapped CalFione Feb 2020 #10
Almost like pindell is a sanders supporter.. he Cha Feb 2020 #14
oh look the new england paper votes for the home team. quel surprise nt msongs Feb 2020 #12
Biden equals Bloomberg equals 'D" denem Feb 2020 #16
Biden did so much better than Sanders why are the pundits doing this? rwheeler31 Feb 2020 #17
Because they're not objective Cha Feb 2020 #18
They Detest the Perceived Democratic Frontrunner, Or the Most Electable Democrat, As Always DarthDem Feb 2020 #19
There seems to be a strong regional bias. And James Pindell is an idiot. dalton99a Feb 2020 #20
Yes he is Green Line Feb 2020 #40
Definite F for Bloomberg Raine Feb 2020 #21
In what world did Bloomberg do better than Klobuchar? musicblind Feb 2020 #22
Yes, the candidates are being graded according to the expectations prior to the debate. TexasTowelie Feb 2020 #23
This Isn't The "Boston Globe" But Some A**hole Opinion Writer Indykatie Feb 2020 #24
right.. pindell gave sanders an A last debate, too Cha Feb 2020 #34
Joe did great, will become even stronger, yortsed snacilbuper Feb 2020 #25
Here ya go.. Cha Feb 2020 #32
Washington Post is running with the same bullshit. RandySF Feb 2020 #26
An opinion writer? Cha Feb 2020 #28
wrong place.. Cha Feb 2020 #29
Probably wrote the article before the debate and went sightseeing. Prosper Feb 2020 #31
I disagree completely. bobGandolf Feb 2020 #30
Geez, that is too rough and inaccurate IMO mvd Feb 2020 #33
Note here True Blue American Feb 2020 #35
I feel he's the "angry" we need mvd Feb 2020 #38
i did NOT like the infighting MFM008 Feb 2020 #36
WAY off on Biden Tom Rinaldo Feb 2020 #39
 

Cha

(296,848 posts)
1. I knew it would be pindell.
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 01:40 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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W_HAMILTON

(7,835 posts)
2. I've seen some pretty bad takes on this debate.
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 01:41 AM
Feb 2020

Washington Post called Biden one of the debate losers, and that was clearly not the case. Anyone who think his performance was bad, or even as worse as Bloomberg, is clearly not objective. It was his strongest performance yet and clearly stronger than everyone else other than Warren, who could also make a case for being the debate winner.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ancianita

(35,933 posts)
11. It's as if media didn't even objectively see the same debate we watched. Talk about filters...
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 01:51 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Prosper

(761 posts)
27. Joe did fantastic. He looked like a movie star portraying a campaign speech.
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 04:52 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
3. Yeah, that is weird. I'd go something like this.
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 01:41 AM
Feb 2020

Warren: A
Sanders: B+
Biden: B
Klobuchar: B
Buttigieg: C
Bloomberg: F

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

calimary

(81,110 posts)
13. That seems about right. But I'd flip Biden and Sanders.
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 01:58 AM
Feb 2020

Biden had a pretty good night.

Bloomberg did not. But this is his first such outing. The next one should tell the story.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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jimfields33

(15,693 posts)
37. Absolutely. I might give mayor Pete a "d"
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 08:49 AM
Feb 2020

But those marks are spot on.

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HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
4. That about sums it up for me too, though I would have switched Klobuchar and Bloomberg.
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 01:41 AM
Feb 2020

And maybe have given Biden a higher grade, B- or so.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
5. Wow Biden did the same as Bloomberg huh? Yeah OK. nt
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 01:42 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
6. I'd say that's way off.
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 01:44 AM
Feb 2020

Warren: A
Sanders: B
Biden: B
Buttigieg: C-
Klobuchar: D+
Bloomberg: epic fail

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

ancianita

(35,933 posts)
8. I disagree with it completely, too.
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 01:49 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Green Line

(1,123 posts)
9. James Pindell is a Warren cheerleader
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 01:49 AM
Feb 2020

He’s dissed Joe for months, I’m quitting my Globe subscription tomorrow, I’ve had enough of his bias

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Cha

(296,848 posts)
15. I read on the last pindell review that gave BS an A
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 01:59 AM
Feb 2020

that he was a sanders supporter.

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CalFione

(571 posts)
10. Wow... Biden and Sanders should be swapped
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 01:50 AM
Feb 2020
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Cha

(296,848 posts)
14. Almost like pindell is a sanders supporter.. he
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 01:58 AM
Feb 2020

gave him an A the last time too.

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msongs

(67,361 posts)
12. oh look the new england paper votes for the home team. quel surprise nt
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 01:54 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

denem

(11,045 posts)
16. Biden equals Bloomberg equals 'D"
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 02:10 AM
Feb 2020

What debate was he watching? Amazing stuff.

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rwheeler31

(6,242 posts)
17. Biden did so much better than Sanders why are the pundits doing this?
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 02:18 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(296,848 posts)
18. Because they're not objective
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 02:30 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DarthDem

(5,255 posts)
19. They Detest the Perceived Democratic Frontrunner, Or the Most Electable Democrat, As Always
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 02:59 AM
Feb 2020

Because they know that in a fair fight, there are more Democrats and more people who agree with Democrats. In order to gin up a horserace and ratings, they have to tear into the Democratic frontrunner - or the person they think will do the best against the Republican. This is often also a candidate they perceive as boring. Hence, they hated Gore, hated Hillary, and hated Kerry. Now it's Biden. They know Sanders has no chance of winning the general, but they want the drama he and his supporters bring, and/or a brokered convention. Biden winning just doesn't help them out.

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dalton99a

(81,404 posts)
20. There seems to be a strong regional bias. And James Pindell is an idiot.
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 03:03 AM
Feb 2020


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Raine

(30,540 posts)
21. Definite F for Bloomberg
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 03:46 AM
Feb 2020

giving him a D is ridiculous!

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musicblind

(4,484 posts)
22. In what world did Bloomberg do better than Klobuchar?
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 03:48 AM
Feb 2020

Are these grades the result of an expectations game or something?

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TexasTowelie

(111,944 posts)
23. Yes, the candidates are being graded according to the expectations prior to the debate.
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 03:57 AM
Feb 2020

The writer has also shown his bias towards Sanders and Warren in prior editorials.

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Indykatie

(3,695 posts)
24. This Isn't The "Boston Globe" But Some A**hole Opinion Writer
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 04:27 AM
Feb 2020

Him giving Sanders an A gives you an idea he might be biased in his ratings.

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Cha

(296,848 posts)
34. right.. pindell gave sanders an A last debate, too
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 05:25 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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yortsed snacilbuper

(7,939 posts)
25. Joe did great, will become even stronger,
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 04:40 AM
Feb 2020

and can win Pennsylvania!

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RandySF

(58,491 posts)
26. Washington Post is running with the same bullshit.
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 04:45 AM
Feb 2020
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primary today, I would vote for:
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Cha

(296,848 posts)
28. An opinion writer?
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 04:57 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(296,848 posts)
29. wrong place..
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 04:58 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Prosper

(761 posts)
31. Probably wrote the article before the debate and went sightseeing.
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 05:14 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

bobGandolf

(871 posts)
30. I disagree completely.
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 05:06 AM
Feb 2020

Warren went over the top. She went well beyond an assertive female candidate. She was firing cannonballs at everyone, and at every answer that was not hers. She ended up sounding like a bitch know-it-all.
I am not anti-women. I was admiring her strength and fortitude. I felt positive at her aggressiveness to be heard. The problem arose because she went too far with it. Every single time someone else spoke, not necessarily to her, she would start raising her hand, wiggling it, jumping up and down, mouthing to the questionnaires. Her behavior, at first was a positive forcefulness, but it continued after every other nominee spoke becoming a distraction. The constant drone of her voice and her bouncing around waving to speak almost constantly turned the audience off.

Just my opinion

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mvd

(65,161 posts)
33. Geez, that is too rough and inaccurate IMO
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 05:23 AM
Feb 2020

Maybe I am too nice, but I really didn’t think anyone but Bloomberg did badly.

Warren - A+
Sanders - A to A-
Biden - A-
Buttigieg - B
Klobuchar - B-
Bloomberg - D-

For the first half, Bloomberg was a clear F.

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True Blue American

(17,981 posts)
35. Note here
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 05:39 AM
Feb 2020

Obama was a bad debater in his first debate, became better as the others made him. Joe Lockhart.

Joe did fine, so did Elizabeth, Amy, Mike.

But Elizabeth seems to have made an impression.

I do not want another 4 years of an angry man. That is all I have to say.

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mvd

(65,161 posts)
38. I feel he's the "angry" we need
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 09:25 AM
Feb 2020

It is nothing like Trump IMO. There is productive emotion and then there is hate.

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MFM008

(19,803 posts)
36. i did NOT like the infighting
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 06:13 AM
Feb 2020

between Pete and Amy.
Joe did a B to me
Sanders a C
Bloomberg was prickly
and Ive switched back to EW.

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Tom Rinaldo

(22,911 posts)
39. WAY off on Biden
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 09:44 AM
Feb 2020

I would give him a "B", and that is only because (paradoxically) he needed an "A plus" performance to have the impact that a standard "A" performance would have netted him earlier in this race.

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