Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumA.B. Stoddard Just Shut The F Up About Bernie
90 Trillion in Bernie Plans no one can pay for. Bullsh*t.
Like we aren't paying trillions now for corporate profitcare when 68,000 a year die from crap or no healthcare.
They don't go to the doctor because they can't afford it. By the time it gets "bad" it is stage 4 everything and it costs millions to ease their suffering while they die. Of course their families go bankrupt too, so they lose a loved one and their house, and everything else. I know media mouthpieces have great healthcare and big paychecks so nothing regular people have to deal with affect your type.
A.B. just come out and say you hate Bernie before babbling your lies and distractions.
How do we pay for healthcare now? We don't. People die by the thousands IN AMERICA. Of course they go bankrupt before they die.
College? How does everyone else pay for it. Not by grinding students into the ground making them debtors for life.
MSNBC get A.B. out of my face. She makes my skin crawl.
No really. She has to go.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)My daughter commuted to a state school and graduated with honors without going into debt. Its not necessary to borrow $200K to get a degree. Besides that, why should taxpayers have to pay for millionaires kids to go to college. That doesnt make any sense.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DanieRains
(4,619 posts)Including their kids.
For once.
Not just working slobs like me.
You are right though. If 100 million of us aren't demanding a piece of the pie, the corporations will keep screwing us.
At least Bernie has the courage to talk about the screwage (along with others).
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
womanofthehills
(10,988 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
CalFione
(571 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
brooklynite
(96,882 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DanieRains
(4,619 posts)Medicare for all is what EVERYBODY ELSE HAS. It is FAR BETTER than what we have here. Better outcomes for half as much. America's infant mortality is like 3rd world levels. We don't take care of poor women. They can't pay. Their babies die. Fact.
Google it.
"Infant Mortality. According to this year's America's Health Ranking Annual Report, the U.S. infant mortality rate is 5.9 deaths per 1,000 live infant births, while the average rate of infant mortality among the OECD countries is 3.9 deaths per 1,000 live births."
Also, my wife's eye medication costs 10 TIMES AS MUCH HERE as is does overseas.
We are being robbed.
Do you work for PHARMA and are not telling anyone?
M4A isn't crazy. It works great in countries without so many stupid people.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
CalFione
(571 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)He promises things he knows will never pass.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Velveteen Ocelot
(130,533 posts)also have very high tax rates for everybody. The top marginal tax rate in Denmark is 60% and they also have a VAT on just about everything. Any politician who proposed taxing Americans at the same rates as the Nordic countries would have no hope of re-election. That is the reality, unfortunately.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DanieRains
(4,619 posts)Maybe not as high as Denmark, but they have few national resources.
Our top tax rate was 93% at one time.
Google
The top federal income tax rate was 91 percent in 1950 and 1951, and between 1954 and 1959. In 1952 and 1953, the top federal
income tax rate was 92 percent. [2] Some of the distributional assumptions in the Piketty, Saez, and Zucman paper are questionable.
You know the 50's when CEO's made 6 times as much as the workers, the wife didn't have to work, and we built the freeway system.
And yes, we did have a little problem or two with keepin' the brothers down, but the 60's started that to change. At least a little.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
The Velveteen Ocelot
(130,533 posts)The current Congress, including Dems, would rather cut off a limb than introduce a bill that raises taxes. Its political suicide these days.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DanieRains
(4,619 posts)But ya gotta be careful.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
The Velveteen Ocelot
(130,533 posts)In countries that have government managed health care everybodys taxes are high.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dware
(18,060 posts)Or are you just against speech you don't agree with?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DanieRains
(4,619 posts)Propaganda I believe it is called.
I am tired of paid shills for corporate scum telling me lies.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
dware
(18,060 posts)just as you do.
I may not like what someone says, but I will defend their right to say it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DanieRains
(4,619 posts)When media scum do propaganda it is our job to call them out on it.
I just see her on night after night spewing this garbage.
I understand math.
God I wish others did.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
dware
(18,060 posts)What part of that don't you get?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DanieRains
(4,619 posts)And read Mein Kampf.
Saying stuff to millions matters.
Putin is around. Ask him about propaganda and spreading fear.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
dware
(18,060 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Sucha NastyWoman
(3,019 posts)One could say that you are the one who is stifling free speech
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dware
(18,060 posts)This should be good.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Sucha NastyWoman
(3,019 posts)You obviously do not think DanielRains has the right to disagree with what A B Stoddard said. Yes, he says she should shut up but he is not doing anything legally to make that happen. Its just his way of expressing his opinion, which you dont like.
She has her opinion which I dont care for, and he has his. Both have expressed themselves.
Dont expect an answer back for your next reply. I have better things to do than get in an inane argument with you
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dware
(18,060 posts)A swing and a miss.
I never said that the poster couldn't, nor shouldn't have an opinion, my contention is that the poster is saying that MSNBC needs to get rid of her because he/she doesn't like what she's saying.
That's attempting to stifle free speech.
I urge everyone to express their opinion, I may not like it, but I recognize a right to express it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
tishaLA
(14,777 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
DanieRains
(4,619 posts)A.B. just makes my skin crawl more than other propaganda spewers. I really don't know why. Kinda like how I feel about Santorum. Don't google Santorum by the way.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
DanieRains
(4,619 posts)3.5 Trillion per year according to Google. Times 30 years comes to 100 trillion.
M4A will save trillions over time according to recent studies.
Stop the "scary big number" crap.
I understand math.
I also understand my wife can't quit her job because we need good healthcare. Freedom? Not hardly.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
DanTex
(20,709 posts)The media has been doing this the whole time and Bernie has still shot to the top of the polls.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
DanieRains
(4,619 posts)Cheaper healthcare for all, and free tuition. Not that hard to understand. They can do it everywhere else in advanced countries.
If Bernie gets some of the money out of politics then campaigns won't be able to buy all them television ads. No wonder they don't want him to succeed.
He isn't afraid to step on the toes of our "owners" and they will pull out all the stops to stop him.
The 1% has a lot of tools in their toolbox to keep a "real" populist from getting power.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)The dominant force is opposition to the status quo, and the mainstream media's opposition to Sanders only reinforces or strengthens his support.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
rwheeler31
(6,242 posts)He is doing nothing to help the Democrats.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DanieRains
(4,619 posts)And telling the truth about his strengths?
Some of us are tired of being robbed.
How many of us are there?
We may soon find out.
A lot of them voted for the con man last time, instead of the one giving speeches for hundreds of thousands at a crack.
I have friends that voted for Trump thinking that he was gonna fix stuff. They aren't all that bright, I admit.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Callado119
(171 posts)...and accusing everyone that dares criticize him as hating bernie is weak and very trumpian ..
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DanieRains
(4,619 posts)She is doing propaganda.
Whether you like Bernie or not it isn't right.
I am not even sure I will vote for Bernie in the primary here in Washington.
He is just right about almost everything.
We are being screwed by the oligarchs who run our country, and get stupid people to vote against their families.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
MFM008
(20,042 posts)Thank God its not a caucus again here in WA.
cant deal with Sanders more fanatical supporters.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Watchfoxheadexplodes
(3,542 posts)Rainbow promises not so much.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Laelth
(32,017 posts)-Laelth
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
nobuddy
(215 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Laelth
(32,017 posts)-Laelth
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden