Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumI really loved Warren's take down of Bloomberg
She was great!
However, I really didn't like her when she went after Sanders, Klobuchar and Buttigieg. It seemed a bit mean spirited.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Faux pas
(14,657 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
CalFione
(571 posts)She will never win the nomination by being every Bernie voter's "second choice".
I think Warren might be the only possible bridge between the Bernie faction and the majority that are moderates.
But if she keeps running on a platform of "I'm just like Bernie, vote for me" - she'll never come in first.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Jersey Devil
(9,874 posts)He is getting the lion's share of the vote from the left. The moderates do not take from her vote so going after them was a waste of time in my opinion (except for Bloomberg who was rising fast until Elizabeth slammed him to the mat).
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JustAnotherGen
(31,798 posts)I was raised to be a competitive woman. Amy was too - and she took it in stride.
Those two women know you gotta throw an elbow sometimes.
I respect them both for their blunt force trauma inflicted on our opposition and showing younger women (I'm in my late 40s - but hope millennial and Y's paid attention) - well - how to throw and elbow and give a subtle shove.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
rwheeler31
(6,242 posts)I think it will hurt us.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
denem
(11,045 posts)when she released her health care revenue plan, right? And you were particularly upset when Biden said of Pete's Medicare for All Who Want It "he stole it, it's the Biden plan"?
You would prefer that Joe plays lovey-dovey with Bernie like he has most of the way through?
That looks real good - everybody loves Bernie, right?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Boomer
(4,168 posts)I thought she was in great form. This is the Liz I signed up for. I want more.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ancianita
(36,017 posts)no "going after." She's a professor who, by habit, has homework done and explains the consequences and meaning of their policy stands.
We must have watched two different Elizabeths.
Do you see how, at some point, the remaining five have to show how they can be aggressive toward an "above the law" class of rich ruler? Or will you not be comfortable with that?
They chose this debate to show tough debate style.
jmo
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
squirecam
(2,706 posts)As highly misleading. While it played well on tv, it was far from the truth.
https://www.politifact.com/article/2020/feb/20/fact-checking-las-vegas-democratic-debate-bloomber/
Amy, I looked online at your (health care) plan. Its two paragraphs." Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass.
This is highly misleading.
Warrens campaign told PolitiFact that she was referring specifically to Klobuchars plan for "universal health care." It pointed to the two paragraphs at the end of this Klobuchar campaign web page, which come under the heading "Propose legislation to get us to universal health care."
But that ignores most of Klobuchars health care plan, which she outlines in quite a bit of detail on four different web pages a main health care policy page, a more detailed sub-page, a sub-page on prescription drugs and a sub-page on mental health. Klobuchar supports building on the Affordable Care Act and adding a public option that expands Medicare and Medicaid.
Louis Jacobson
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ancianita
(36,017 posts)To state that it was only 2 paragraphs, implied that Amy had not given her policy as much thought or weight as she claimed in the debate.
That's how I saw it. It was an appropriate challenge, but not an attack.
She attacked Bloomberg, and professorized Klobuchar.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
squirecam
(2,706 posts)She wanted a post-it note zinger. Except the basis for the zinger was highly misleading.
That makes it an attack. Not a discussion of the issues.
Warren could have simply said that a public option wasnt good enough for her. Thats not what she did.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ancianita
(36,017 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
squirecam
(2,706 posts)The Whole night. And has been described as angry or on the verge of tears, depending on what sexist story people want to tell.
But I guess its ok to be highly misleading...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ancianita
(36,017 posts)was no more interrupted than anyone else. That 'gotcha' moderator who challenged her answer was the absolute worst. She should be rightfully angry for being targeted like that.
Though the women raise their hands, men onstage tend to overtalk and cut off women's speech when it goes over their internal "time limit."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
blm
(113,040 posts)Amy understood what she was doing, which is why she referred to it as a law professor critique. You dont get points for repeating the work done by others, you score points for your own original contributions.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden