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arenean

(456 posts)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 02:28 PM Feb 2020

Debate shows Bernie Sanders could win most votes but be denied nomination

The Vermont senator was alone in saying he would back whoever won a plurality of delegates – with others open to superdelegates tipping the balance for another candidate at the convention

Amid the Mike Bloomberg pile-on and the Pete Buttigieg-Amy Klobuchar squabbling, there was a key point that slipped by almost unnoticed during Wednesday’s tumultuous Democratic debate – one that could potentially prevent Bernie Sanders from becoming the nominee.

Towards the end, each of the six candidates was asked if – at the Democratic national convention this summer in Milwaukee – they would support the person who has won the most delegates – even if that person hasn’t achieved a majority.

Five of the candidates said they would not. The Democratic socialist and Vermont senator said he would.

Full story by Adam Gabbatt in The Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/feb/20/democratic-convention-bernie-sanders-superdelegates-nominee

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Debate shows Bernie Sanders could win most votes but be denied nomination (Original Post) arenean Feb 2020 OP
So mote it be. PubliusEnigma Feb 2020 #1
another moronic article. the winner must get a majority of 50% + 1 not a plurality. if msongs Feb 2020 #2
But if going into the convention cannabis_flower Feb 2020 #5
from Florida guru Steve Schale evertonfc Feb 2020 #3
A plurality is NOT a majority relayerbob Feb 2020 #4
that's bernie math lol. he wrote the rules and now he wants to ignore them nt msongs Feb 2020 #7
Yang is right on one point at least relayerbob Feb 2020 #9
That works for me. HarlanPepper Feb 2020 #6
Never underestimate Cirque du So-What Feb 2020 #8
 

msongs

(67,394 posts)
2. another moronic article. the winner must get a majority of 50% + 1 not a plurality. if
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 02:31 PM
Feb 2020

bernie wants to be the nom he has to convince half to choose him, something he has not yet done anywhere this year

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cannabis_flower

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5. But if going into the convention
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 02:37 PM
Feb 2020

Bernie or Liz or Biden had a plurality and Klobuchar or any other that didn't have a plurality asked their delegates to support the one who had the plurality, the superdelegates couldn't need to be involved.

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evertonfc

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3. from Florida guru Steve Schale
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 02:32 PM
Feb 2020

Sanders “will of the people should be followed” in 2020 Dem nomination, flip-flopping his position from 2016, where he thought the will of the majority should be overturned.

I suspect if he isn’t the delegate or vote leader, he’ll change his position again.

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relayerbob

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4. A plurality is NOT a majority
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 02:35 PM
Feb 2020

That's not how democracy works. If a candidate has 30% of the votes, and 70% want someone else, why should the 30% guy be given the crown? Any coalition of the others could get a majority, and coalitions are actually how things get done

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msongs

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7. that's bernie math lol. he wrote the rules and now he wants to ignore them nt
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 02:58 PM
Feb 2020
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relayerbob

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9. Yang is right on one point at least
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 03:38 PM
Feb 2020

Math matters

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Cirque du So-What

(25,922 posts)
8. Never underestimate
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 03:20 PM
Feb 2020

the weight of the fat thumb of the superdelegates on the scale.

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