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Firestorm49

(4,028 posts)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 04:08 PM Feb 2020

I found the debate to lack substance.

In my opinion, there were a few questions that resonated with voters, but not enough to address the serious issues that are so crucial at this point in America. There was plenty of bluster for position, but not nearly enough issue oriented debate. The questions from the moderators lacked substance, almost like they were afraid to bring up the corruption of what’s his name in the Oval Office, how to deal with the aftermath of coverups, foreign intervention, vote rigging, the dismantling of the Justice Department, the emoluments clause, issues involving gun deaths in the country, the threat of white supremacy, the narrowing of wealth (mildly addressed), securing the basic tenets of the constitution, ......

All in all, this was more of a personality event than a substantive debate. No one candidate came out a winner.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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I found the debate to lack substance. (Original Post) Firestorm49 Feb 2020 OP
I'm with you. blue neen Feb 2020 #1
AMEN ! Firestorm49 Feb 2020 #5
Debates are not for political wonks. LakeArenal Feb 2020 #2
And do you think that the substance ibegurpard Feb 2020 #3
I agree with you. Firestorm49 Feb 2020 #4
yes it is the election of our time ibegurpard Feb 2020 #6
I think they need to be reminded daily Firestorm49 Feb 2020 #8
You know that the Republican party Firestorm49 Feb 2020 #9
I thought it was a brawl, murielm99 Feb 2020 #7
re: "this was more of a personality event than a substantive debate" thesquanderer Feb 2020 #10
The debates are going the way of cable news, just people shouting at each other. Steelrolled Feb 2020 #11
Seems a lot of folks don't like debates where their candidate fails. k2qb3 Feb 2020 #12
 

blue neen

(12,319 posts)
1. I'm with you.
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 04:11 PM
Feb 2020

They need to be attacking Trump and not each other.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LakeArenal

(28,786 posts)
2. Debates are not for political wonks.
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 04:14 PM
Feb 2020

All tv is designed for a sixth grade education. Lazy uninformed voters decide by sound bites and media hype.

I do disagree about substance.

My number one issue is getting rid of trump.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
3. And do you think that the substance
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 04:14 PM
Feb 2020

That Hillary Clinton brought to the campaign was enough to defeat a reality show host? Should it be based on substance? Of course it should. Is it? No it's not. We deal with the hand we are dealt. We don't need to lie and be substance-free but we are going to have to embrace getting ourselves somewhat dirty.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Firestorm49

(4,028 posts)
4. I agree with you.
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 04:21 PM
Feb 2020

It’s just that in my opinion, this is the election of our lifetime. There’s no time to quibble about someone’s confidentiality agreements, or listen to how they can raise their voice as to show a command position.

We need to defeat the guy in DC, and each and every time that we can point out his faults, blunders, and lies to the American public the more informed the voters will be. There’s no time for name calling anymore, it’s time to present exactly why we deserve the presidency.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
6. yes it is the election of our time
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 04:23 PM
Feb 2020

And you aren't going to win it by presenting the average American a list of policy papers.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Firestorm49

(4,028 posts)
8. I think they need to be reminded daily
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 04:36 PM
Feb 2020

And what better format than a national debate.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Firestorm49

(4,028 posts)
9. You know that the Republican party
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 04:45 PM
Feb 2020

is going to lie, cheat, rig and con the public any way that they can. Their practices have been on full display. Nows not the time to play nice. It’s showtime and nows the time to keep this scam of an administration exposed.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

murielm99

(30,712 posts)
7. I thought it was a brawl,
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 04:24 PM
Feb 2020

not a debate. We don't need that.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

thesquanderer

(11,968 posts)
10. re: "this was more of a personality event than a substantive debate"
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 05:39 PM
Feb 2020

to some extent yes, but also elections often turn at least as much on personality as on substance. Remember "who you'd rather get a beer with"?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Steelrolled

(2,022 posts)
11. The debates are going the way of cable news, just people shouting at each other.
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 06:20 PM
Feb 2020

Is it any surprise? I guess this is what the "informed" people want.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

k2qb3

(374 posts)
12. Seems a lot of folks don't like debates where their candidate fails.
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 06:28 PM
Feb 2020

This is the point in every primary season where things turn nasty and we find out who can fight without dishonoring themself and who's too weak to stand.

For a whole host of reasons it's better if we coalesce around a candidate early and it's time to narrow the field.

I say that even knowing a crowded field is good for my choice.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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