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If you have health insurance, I'm asking you to fight for those who don't. (Original Post) Uncle Joe Feb 2020 OP
Good tweet. Ohiogal Feb 2020 #1
Health insurance sucks anyway ibegurpard Feb 2020 #2
Strengthen ACA. I cannot afford Sanders increase with payroll tax, income tax and other. krissey Feb 2020 #3
I'm glad your happy with Romney Care bahrbearian Feb 2020 #7
And if I make it to 32K a year where I actually can pay everything with earnings, krissey Feb 2020 #9
As long as your have Your Insurance, that's all that matters. bahrbearian Feb 2020 #10
And the best way to do that is to build a public option and move from there... brooklynite Feb 2020 #4
That's certainly the popular prophecy. LanternWaste Feb 2020 #5
Well, I've done that frazzled Feb 2020 #6
I feel that way but I think a lot marlakay Feb 2020 #8
 

Ohiogal

(31,973 posts)
1. Good tweet.
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 04:17 PM
Feb 2020

Way too many in this country believe in “I got mine and the heck with you.”

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
2. Health insurance sucks anyway
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 04:18 PM
Feb 2020

it should have no part in the healthcare provision equation. Insurance is the only business out there where they want to take money and not actually provide a service for it. Insurance is for protecting investments. Healthcare is not an investment. It's a necessary part of everyday life for everyone and it's becoming increasingly out of reach for most. It needs to be considered a public good and strictly regulated.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

krissey

(1,205 posts)
3. Strengthen ACA. I cannot afford Sanders increase with payroll tax, income tax and other.
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 04:22 PM
Feb 2020

I make 11 an hour, can't pay monthly cost of living while living poor and thru ACA I pay $1.11 a month for bronze. Sanders will increase loss income while saving me that $1.11 and I already cannot make it. Sanders would hurt me, the poor, the working poor. It will help the middle class, I get that, but I am the working poor and he will hurt me.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

bahrbearian

(13,466 posts)
7. I'm glad your happy with Romney Care
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 04:44 PM
Feb 2020

I can't afford $566 premiums , $50 co-pay, and $5000 deductible. If your only making $11 an hour your would not be taxed with Medicare for All. It will not hurt you!

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krissey

(1,205 posts)
9. And if I make it to 32K a year where I actually can pay everything with earnings,
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 04:52 PM
Feb 2020

I will be hit with payroll tax that will roll me back to not being able to cover my bills.

How about if we strengthen ACA as Obama was doing before the last three years of Republicans weakening it? How about bring the cost down like Obama was doing?

M4A is not free either. Seniors have supplemental.

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primary today, I would vote for:
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bahrbearian

(13,466 posts)
10. As long as your have Your Insurance, that's all that matters.
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 04:54 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

brooklynite

(94,499 posts)
4. And the best way to do that is to build a public option and move from there...
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 04:30 PM
Feb 2020

...as opposed to advocating MfA and losing the election.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
5. That's certainly the popular prophecy.
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 04:39 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
6. Well, I've done that
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 04:40 PM
Feb 2020

Despite having good insurance myself, I spent a lot of time in 2007 on the ground working for passage of the Affordable Care Act, including a hoped-for public option. Didn't get everything, but got a whole lot. Even stuff that improved my own insurance (no caps, free physicals and diagnostics, etc.). I even got a fancy certificate signed by Obama, via the work I did for Organizing for America on behalf of the ACA. I was doing it for those I knew who had been unable to get insurance because of pre-existing conditions, and those who lost or changed their jobs, etc.

But I don't feel like jeopardizing that insurance so much. That is to say, I don't feel like working to eradicate it would be in my (or many other people's best interest). It's been damned good to us these past few years (a year-long bout with my spouse's cancer being the main thing). As an example, I just today received a hospital bill for ophthalmic surgery I had several weeks ago. Major hospital, major insurance (employer-based). The costs seem high for an hour and a half on the surgical table and an hour each in pre- and post-op: a total of $15,051.98. But "insurance payments and adjustments" (I assume the adjustments are the discounts the hospital gives to the insurer) came to $14,951.58. My cost: $100. (Don't know what that's for, but heck, I'll pay it). I have no deductibles either, and the surgeon was "in network."

I am willing to work hard for a public option again, and for improvements (and restorations) to the ACA, expansion of Medicaid, lowered drug costs, and other innovations. Because I know a lot of people don't have such good employer insurance. But I don't see why I should go out and work to dismantle the good insurance I (or others, like the Culinary Workers' Union) currently have.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

marlakay

(11,448 posts)
8. I feel that way but I think a lot
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 04:51 PM
Feb 2020

Of people are not that generous, they have it and want to keep it just the way it is no changes.

We belong to strong union and have good medical, but I believe the way I do for my daughter who while making good money only can afford a horrible plan at her company, my other daughter in military that can only see certain doctors, my mom whose supplement cancelled her because we moved her a hour away, my grandkids that aren’t on any medical and just hearing about people that can’t afford their medicine.

We seem to have lost empathy in this country after Obama left office.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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