Bernie Haters, what exactly do you not like about his policies?

[peoli]

[rzemanfl]

1. Nice post bro. n/t

[Moderateguy]

2. Nothing

I love his policies— I just don’t think he’s electable in a country that is majority right of center

[juliuswest]

3. Not me, but I think it's the implementation

They think he's completely pie-in-the-sky, maybe great plan, but there is no way in hell it's ever becoming law. It's "realism" "pragmatism" "hopelessness" "experience"

[peoli]

38. Understood, ty for responding

[onecaliberal]

64. The reason it can't get done is that we continue to elect corrupt people that are owned by those

Who keep us down.

[PAMod]

67. Followed by "disillusionment", "despair", and "defeat"

The country needs a unifying figure in the White House.

A sudden turn left by us will not help...

[DaDeacon]

101. Like that unrealistic "wall" we are building...

Odd that the right can do big things but the left has to always think small and ask for less

[CalFione]

4. A) We're not "haters". Stop it.

B) They're unpassable pie-in-the-sky promises that Bernie knows he can't ever implement, but he cynically is counting on all of his young and naive supporters to think he can.

[Cha]

8. It's OPs like this that Divide..

then asked why some just don't like Sanders.

[emmaverybo]

14. +10000

[peoli]

32. This is devisive but the daily posts about why is Bernie even in the race are not?

[Cha]

57. BS said it himself in 2011..

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But, he explains, he is not interested in the White House. "I would likely end up causing a right-wing extremist to be president of the United States. That is not something I would be happy to do," he said.
Then he added for emphasis: "It would likely be a futile and losing campaign. That would not be too smart."

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/oct/21/bernie-sanders-socialist-vermont-interview

[k2qb3]

97. About running against Obama...in 2012.

"Never" is a lie.

Just stop.

[Cha]

98. Take your own advice.

[k2qb3]

99. I'll defend any candidate against such.

[lapucelle]

105. Well Cha, the article did specifically say that

Sanders does not want to become a 2012 version of Ralph Nader whose 2000 campaign is blamed by some for robbing Al Gore of a vital few percent and paving the way for George Bush.

It didn't say anything about any politician's reluctance or willingness to play that role in any subsequent election years.

[ehrnst]

117. That's telling that he decided to go ahead and run just a few years later...

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

65. SERIOUSLY!! Not to worry though, you'll see, once Bernie wraps up the Democratic nomination...

Bernie will unite the party like never before around his aggressive progressive agenda that ultimately works to the benefit of working class and low-income folks over the top 1%... Bernie is the one We The People have been waiting for... a true champion who has our back. We owe it to Bernie to have HIS back!!


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!

[mike_c]

75. yep

And his ardent supporters are not all young and naive. There are plenty of us gray beards who have waited a long time for a real progressive left president.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

88. Oh ya...weve waited WAY too long! Here's to finally gettin the progressive Champion we deserve...

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!

[ehrnst]

118. Clap if you believe!!

[Vivienne235729]

33. +1 EXACTLY

[Mister Ed]

5. Make up your mind. Is it hatred or policy differences?

If opponents really hate Sanders, as you say, then your time is wasted debating policy with them.

If their objections are based on policy differences, then it's not a matter of hatred.

Utter bullshit to try and have it both ways like that.

[George II]

6. They can't be passed and they're essentially unfunded.

[trueblue2007]

71. they will never pass

[hangaleft]

7. I'm not a Bernie hater

In fact, I support him on most, if not all, of his positions.

But I don’t think he’s electable, and we must win this election. Our democracy is on the line and we can’t afford to shoot for pie in the sky, as desirable as it may be.

[TheCowsCameHome]

9. Bernie "haters", eh?

Nice way to frame your post.

Not.

[Sloumeau]

11. I don't know any Democrats who hate Bernie Sanders.

I know a lot of Democrats who do not believe that he can win a general election against Donald Trump. I also know a lot of Democrats who believe that he will never get things like Medicare for All through Congress.

So, when you think someone can't win, and when you think that his ideas would not make it through Congress, then you don't support that person as a candidate. I am not exactly sure why you would characterize that as "hate". Perhaps you can explain it to us.

[Lucky Luciano]

16. There are plenty here who loathe him. Sadly. nt

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

89. Yes but, in the end, it won't change the fact that Bernie WILL be our next President.

Bernie will EASILY dispose of tRumpy The Clown, just as he is easily cruising to the Democratic nomination. Bernie's the one We The People have been waiting for... and waiting WAY too long. Now it's President Sanders' turn to step up and finally represent the working class and low-income folks in this country for a change that will bring 'em economic and racial justice.

We need to stop all the infighting and unite around the only political agenda, i.e., Bernie's progressive policies, that will guarantee us victory over the Fascist-in-Chief!!


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!

[Codeine]

119. #bendtheknee

[emmaverybo]

17. You said it for me. And I bet for many of us using logic against illogic.

[peoli]

45. I see a lot of vitriol towards Sanders on DU. More than towards anyone else

I am NOT calling everyone that isn't voting for him a hater, not at all, but I am curious to know from those that want him out or are posting angrily about him what it is. That's all

[Lucky Luciano]

90. Apparently, he was singularly responsible for Hillary losing.

[pnwmom]

12. Presidents are more than policies. I don't think he can sell his policies -- but WARREN can.

She's not selling them as socialism -- but as well-regulated capitalism.

And she's flexible enough to be able to work with Congress to accomplish something good -- even if it's not perfect.

[hangaleft]

21. Spot on!

[peoli]

34. Thank you. That is a very honest answer that makes sense

[Vivienne235729]

35. Well said!

[Beartracks]

84. True. Capitalism has to be tightly regulated, like a nuclear reactor.

Very powerful, but only sustainable if it can be kept from blowing up or melting down.

=======

[bucolic_frolic]

13. They are not practicable

A president needs to work with Congress. No Congress will pass Bernie's policies.

[randr]

15. I don't hate Bernie, I was a delegate for him at Colorado State Convention

I have a very deep gut feeling that Trump will eat him alive. His Socialist brand will burn him on the national stage.

[sheshe2]

18. When you start an OP by calling all DUers...

When you start an OP by calling all DUers that do not agree with Bernie, "Bernie Haters" then you lost all credibility and deserve no answer about what we like or dislike. You do not want an answer you only wish to sow divisiveness.

Just stop.

[peoli]

36. I didn't do that at all. Not even close. You have implied by your own self

That me saying Bernie Haters implies everyone who supports other candidates and that is not at all what I'm saying. There is a very vocal dislike of Bernie Sanders on DU and I am asking a question that can have many different answers from many different people.

You stop .

[sheshe2]

44. No you are not.

You:

peoli (2,780 posts)

Bernie Haters, what exactly do you not like about his policies?

You called us all Bernie Haters. Fact.

[peoli]

46. I am referring to Bernie Haters. If you are not one then it obviously doesn't apply to you

[sheshe2]

68. Then why is that term used here dozens of times a day?

Someone posts a vid of him...his own words. His own words.

The response "You are a Bernie Hater!!!" "You lie!" You just hate Bernie"

Then the snarky, wait the Bernie haters will be here in 3...2..1.

Anyone that disagrees with him is a hater!

[dem4decades]

19. You know how Warren beat Bloomberg last night with his past? I believe

Trump will do that with Bernie.

[Cha]

20. BS own words in 2011

Last edited Fri Feb 21, 2020, 05:41 AM - Edit history (1)

But, he explains, he is not interested in the White House. "I would likely end up causing a right-wing extremist to be president of the United States. That is not something I would be happy to do," he said.
Then he added for emphasis: "It would likely be a futile and losing campaign. That would not be too smart."

Edited the tweet out.. didn't agree with the tweeter's editorializing

[hangaleft]

22. Wow!

Heed your own words of wisdom, Bernie, and drop the fuck out!

[Cha]

26. Thank you!

[CalFione]

25. Is there a source for that quote besides a random tweet?

[pnwmom]

40. Yes. It comes from this 2011 piece from The Guardian.

Near the end of the article.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/oct/21/bernie-sanders-socialist-vermont-interview

[CalFione]

51. Thanks!

[Cha]

42. Source! I wondered too.. thanks for making me look it UP!

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/oct/21/bernie-sanders-socialist-vermont-interview

[pnwmom]

41. Cha, here is the original source for that quote: an article from the Guardian.

It's near the end of the article.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/oct/21/bernie-sanders-socialist-vermont-interview

[Cha]

48. Thanks, pnwmom.. I just looked it up and

came back and you already had it!

I found it in an around about way.. first google, then a reddit post and someone had The Guardian link for the Source..

[pnwmom]

59. I just googled. It was on the first page of results somewhere.

I was glad to see it was real -- not something fake being passed around on DU.

[Cha]

66. Good on you.. I missed that..

Me too.. I wondered about it then got distracted by something else and appreciated I was asked about it.

[Tipperary]

54. Damn, you should make this an op.

Great find!

[Cha]

69. lol That's what I told Goth when

I lifted it from him last night. then went searching for it today when it seemed like it would be good to post BS' own words!

[FM123]

79. Thanks for the link, Cha.

Never realized it was only 5 short years later that he would change his mind and run.

[Cha]

92. You're Welcome, FM

[Kerrycrat]

23. Not wanting to vote for him doesn't make me a "hater"

Too many grand ideas, short in plans to actually get things done.

He reminds me of a Trump on the left in a way. He and his supporters talk as if he’s going to be elected king instead of president.

Too pie in the sky for me.

[peoli]

37. Ty.

[nobuddy]

24. The execution of Chris Matthews in Central Park

Ellis Island would be more symbolic.

[Tarc]

27. They apparently don't want to be healthy, nor do they want to attend affordable college

Crazy stuff, man.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

29. Crazy is right!!

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!

[Tarc]

49. I did vote (NH) for Bernie

It was a tough call between him and Liz, but I want Cheetolini out, but it seems this time around that he had the momentum.

I was diehard Hillary in 2016, so I'm putting my faith in Sanders this time around. Don't fuck it up.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

56. Bernie will NOT let you don't... welcome to a not-so exclusive club!!

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!

[sweetloukillbot]

31. Condescending attitudes like that are a big reason for me... nt

[rzemanfl]

47. Good post.

Sorry you think I'm a ageist ***hat.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

28. What's NOT to like?! Why Bernie has the nomination pretty much wrapped up!!

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!

[CanonRay]

30. I like his ideas, they just won't be implemented any time soon

However I am very upset he won't release his medical records. Haven't we has enough of that with Trump

[William769]

39. I reject the premise of your question. nt

[radical noodle]

43. Okay, but it's not all policies...

I don't like "Medicare" for all, not because I don't want everyone to have health coverage but because I think it's not well thought out.

I don't like free college for all because there are so many who would abuse it (and I have good reason to believe that). I prefer student loan aid to those within certain financial categories who complete their course of studies with reasonable grades.

I don't like the way Bernie shouts constantly and reminds me of my abusive first husband.

I don't like the fact that Bernie thinks there should be no compromise, because he'll get nothing done.

I don't like the way he sulks when things aren't going his way.

I don't like his supporters who harass and verbally abuse those with different opinions and who disrupt debates (like last night), and he continually fails to confront the troublemakers.

I don't want a president who is 79 years old and has had a heart attack already but won't share his medical records after saying he would.

I don't like the way he changes his mind about rules depending on what's best for him at the moment.

I don't like those of his supporters trying to blackmail the party with their threat of not voting for another nominee.

And I really don't like him railing against OUR party that he won't join. I'm tired of being called "establishment," "neoliberal," and "elite."

I will say this... there was a time when I admired Senator Sanders but he's lost any good feelings I had for him in the last six years or so.

[peoli]

50. Thank you

[radical noodle]

53. You're quite welcome

[ecstatic]

52. It's not his policies, it's him. He's unqualified

by every metric. His temperament is off putting and his health is failing. Look at his hiring choices. It says a lot.

I don't want more chaos and confusion.

If you like his policies, vote Warren.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

58. -1

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!

[dware]

94. I'll see your -1 and raise you +100. nt.

[Capt. America]

55. Not a hater. I like his policies. I also like a room full of puppies, but I know I can't keep them

all. Amy has already said that 2/3 of dems in the Senate will not sign on.
Therefore, we have to ask is his candidacy worth losing swing districts in the House and Senate for a dream that can't pass.

Also, Bernie sees all of America's problems through the lens of Marxist class struggle; when we know for a fact a significant portion of Americans don't vote on policies exclusively (see "What's Wrong with Kansas&quot . George Bush got elected two times because people wanted to "have a beer with him" rather than Gore or Kerry. A lot of presidential politics is about charisma; which Bernie does not have.

[Aussieview]

60. Australian view

I signed up to give you guys a view from someone from Australia.

Here recently the country re-elected a conservative government again unfortunately, yet even conservative government supports our healthcare system, let alone ever criticise it in favour of anything close to what you guys have in your country.

We have a high minimum wage, we have the equivalent of what you guys call welfare except we call it social security and as long as someone needs it they can stay on it.

To have all this and many other our country’s benefits by having a pretty high cost of living (at least I think it is) but the minimum wage etc offers this.

In Australia we have our own problems that exist and we complain and fight about them,
But What I as a Australian and many other friends have asked each other is why on earth is America such a bad place to live if you are not wealthy, why is medical care for everyone who needs it such a major issue in your country along minimum wage and a bunch of other things.

And then I started reading this site here DU and I started to understand why.
I am Australian and have no dog in your race, but as an outsider I see people like Sanders and Warren as the only candidates fighting to really change to your system to just the basics of what ya in the rest of the western world enjoy.

I came here to see the democratic view and it shocked me to see so many attacks on Sanders especially for what you guys label as ‘pipe dreams’, to see some comments on a forum like this where Democrats (the equivalent of Labour Party here) are arguing that MFA would cost too much etc.

We have a system where everyone is entitled to Medicare (what we call our health care here) but people can also take our private insurance if they wish on top of the Medicare, basically if you want faster and more comfortable treatment you get private and pay the costs.

But the premise being that absolutely everyone gets healthcare and a tax is taken out of pay checks to pay for it, some pay less, some pay more depending on how much you earn.

Anyway, if we can do it, surely a wealthier stronger country can do it too.

Just my 2 cents.

[JudyM]

78. Interesting perspective! Glad you joined us, welcome, Aussieview!

I just watched this tonight, another “outside” view of the health care situation here:

[Aussieview]

82. Thanks

Thank you for the welcome.

Don’t get me wrong, our Australian healthcare system is a little more complicated than I i laid out in my original post.

Here we have private insurance, but it’s a completely voluntary thing where if you have extra money and want ‘better’ care (mostly that just means a nice room to yourself in a hospital and maybe faster treatment for elective surgery etc), if you want it you go to a company and buy it.

But at a minimum, at the very least, absolutely any citizen here that requires healthcare treatment can either go to a hospital or a doctor and get it under what we call Medicare card, basically a card we are all issued which we present to hospital or doctor and it gets charged on behalf of government paying.

Depending on your wage, you may be subjected to a Medicare limit when visiting doctors and prescriptions etc and may have to pay more beyond a certain limit.

But when it comes to essential procedures for health, all costs are covered by the hospitals who are funded by the government.

[JudyM]

85. Ours is a nightmare of red tape and medical decisions made by private insurance co. bureaucrats.

Limitations on everything. It’s so time consuming to wade through.

Do you have free long-term care? Sanders’ plan includes that and it’d be such a huge weight off knowing that that would be covered.

[ehrnst]

113. Those in rural areas, especially the first nations people do not have access to the quality

of healthcare that those in the urban areas do.

The US has a lower % of people in urban areas than Australia does, which allows Australia to deliver health care to the majority of their population, which is concentrated in a few areas, in a more cost effective way than the US could.

[ecstatic]

95. But have you noticed that he can't answer a question?

He only recites the same talking points over and over again.

How will he answer questions once elected, with no stump speech to turn to?

I have really high standards for who I want to lead this country. It's not enough to have an idea. You have to also have the intelligence to implement your ideas, to study issues, and convince others. Bernie has not shown an ability to do that.

[fleabiscuit]

96. 2 cents...

Australian Dollar equals 0.66 United States Dollar.

Welcome to the DU

[democratisphere]

61. Total fraud.

[stopbush]

62. He has never been honest about the costs and how he pays for them.

[33taw]

63. I think some of the policies need a long term plan to achieve.

I don’t hate Bernie, but his approach is bullyish and some of his supporters follow his lead.

[The Mouth]

70. I am far far from a 'hater', indeed he's my number two

My only fear is that if the Rethuglicans retain the Senate, they utterly immobilize his agenda and then subsequently proclaim it's a failure. And since historically, the party that does NOT hold the Presidency wins substantially in the House of Representatives, that in 2022 they recover all of Congress and fuck him and us royally.

I kind of fear too many taxes that will, of necessity, hit the 'middle class', of which I am a part. More taxes are fine as long as we get what we are paying for, but more than one revolutionary has won the battle only to lose the war against the corporate kleptocracy that can outlast 'our revolution'.

That said, I love Bernie, I strongly supported him in 2016 right up until he was mathematically eliminated, and, as with Yang and Sen Warren, cherish the IDEAS he brings to the national conversation.

[cally]

72. I don't hate him but I think he's a failed leader

The hate and vitriol aimed at Hillary Clinton and her supporters cost us that election—one of the factors. He and his supporters refuse to discuss or engage in policy discussions. Bernie supported that and was so focused on his own agenda that he couldn’t see the long term consequence of his actions. He and his supporters don’t care if we end up with Trump for another 4 years or even the first four years.

The approach he and his supporters take does not build a winning coalition. Instead it divides and hurts us

And yes I will vote for him if he’s the nominee but I do not like him or the abuse his supporters cast at many people. I no longer work in local politics because of the vitriol at Hillary supporters by many activists here. I will engage with other states and ignore here.

[handmade34]

73. my post from another thread...

Democrats aren't anti-Bernie... were merely anti-trump and believe Bernie can't beat him... Bernie poll numbers aren't much above 30% (even with the 50%+ backing of younger people)… nationwide he appears to be a point or two above trump at this time but that does not account for the swing states which are crucial and common belief amongst those (other than the Bernie base) that look at these things closely… a Bernie nominee would cost us House and Senate seats

if you look at next closest rival as anybody but Bernie, you get a clearer picture... hey, I like Bernie... his demeaner is off-putting but he's been a good Senator for us and we here in Vermont keep electing him... but even in this special little liberal state we cannot implement the policies he advocates

I take everything with a grain of salt and research and study when I need... what I see is that the best way to get to health coverage for everyone, seriously address climate change, make sure women's rights are not taken back, bring some sense of civility back into our lives and get things done is to make sure we keep the House, take the Senate and chose a nominee who will keep the Democrats and bring in all those disgusted with trump... yeah, I get it, Bernie inspires people, especially younger people and we all love his ideas (well most of us) but trump has changed this Country and we have been taken so far back by him that we are walking a fine line here

we are pragmatic because we know history, we know what is possible... we live in HOPE but fight in the real world...

[Cicada]

74. Why forgive student debt for a rich surgeon?

If an orthopedic surgeon is earning $550,000 per year why forgive her student laoan?

[Evergreen Emerald]

81. Let's pretend the person is a corporation making millions

corporations get bailed out all the time.

And, as a person with LOTS of student debt, who does not make six figures, I deserve getting bailed out as much as the car companies do.

[Cicada]

109. I favor eliminating student debt for those who are not affluent

Warren gives full debt relief for those earning less than $150,000 per year, and phases out the relief as income increases above $150,000 to a point where there is no relief. That sounds right to me.

[krissey]

76. Bernie Haters? That is how you want to start a conversation?

[UniteFightBack]

77. He's a good advocate but that is all he should be. nt

[Squinch]

80. .

[riverwalker]

83. I just wonder

why he hasn’t accomplished anything in his nearly 40 years in the Senate. Look at how others have distinguished themselves, like Ted Kennedy, McCain, Harry Reid, etc. Sanders? Nuthin’.

[NoMoreRepugs]

86. I'm not a Bernie fan, too unrealistic a collection of polocies

that would never have a chance of being enacted in today’s political atmosphere IMO... that and he will be beaten badly in the GE. If it turns out the Russian meddling in the Democratic primaries is to prop up Bernie and/or keep all the candidates viable so as to have a nasty brokered convention I for one do not think Bernie is a unifier.

[BlueTsunami2018]

87. I don't hate him or most of his policies.

I just don’t think he can win in the general running on those policies. 🤷?♂️

[ahoysrcsm]

91. Short, divisive, puts the reader in defensive.

Are you a Bernie Bro, GOP Operative, Russian Operative, General Trolling, or All of the Above?

[kcr]

93. I love his policies and even like him personally.

I just don't like him as a politician. I hate how he ran his campaign in 2016. I don't like who he chooses as his surrogates and spokespeople, and who he hires on his campaign. I think it's one of the big reasons he hasn't ever been able to effect any of the change he believes in, so I see no reason to believe he'd ever be able to, not even if he actually won. He seems to be running a Bernie Fan Club more than a campaign to lead a country and actually effect change.

[fleabiscuit]

100. At least you're not soliciting for thoughts and prayers.

But I do find it ironic that this atheist believes it will take just that for a successful run by him to defeat Orange Mango.

That's a far, far, cry form being a hater. We best look elsewhere.

[aeromanKC]

102. 0% passing Bernies policies without 60 Dem Senators

Give me Joe Biden!!!!!!!

[Meowmee]

103. His policies

Are not new or even his, they will never be implemented, as I am sure even he knows on some level... he helped fuck up one election delivering this nightmare and now he is doing it again. For what, ego, if he cared about the good of the country he would not be running. He is being propped up by Russia and R’s who are not going to vote dem, I am sure he is aware of this and doesn't care. He hires divisive/ destructive people and refuses to take responsibility by stopping them/ firing them etc.

At the last debate he was pretty much beserk. He is the worst possible candidate, he will be demolished in the gen election campaign. He just had a heart attack and will not release records. I could go on but I wouldn’t want to branded as a “hater” for speaking truth. There is a lot more.

[betsuni]

104. Seven minute abs.

[Act_of_Reparation]

106. Bernie Sanders came up with them.

If John Kerry had proposed single payer, they would have soiled themselves with glee. Now it's teh communisms.

[TwilightZone]

107. FDR proposed publicly funded health care in 1933.

Truman proposed universal health care in 1949.

Ted Kennedy

Jimmy Carter

Hillary Clinton

and even Richard Nixon, of all people

...all proposed universal health care.

Let's not pretend that Sanders is somehow unique in proposing it or that he was the first. Political history does exist prior to 2015.

[Act_of_Reparation]

108. I'm saying he's not unique.

That's the fucking point.

[honest.abe]

110. Its not that anyone hates Bernie, but many hate his derogatory comments about Democrats.

Democrats and the Democratic party have fought for all the things that are good in this country against huge opposition from Republicans and RW media. It sickens me when he insults Democrats as if they are no better than the Republicans. Makes me want to puke.

[MineralMan]

111. I can't answer, because I am not part of the group you are asking.

I'm not a Bernie hater. I don't know any Bernie haters. I'm one of those people who would vote for him if he is the nominee.

As for his "policies," I don't think he really has any. He has aspirational ideas that cannot be made to happen in the next four years. He will not succeed in implementing any of them, even if elected.

[katmondoo]

112. I don't like his attitude, an angry man pointing his finger at me.

Doesn't give me much confidence in what he will do as President. Reminds me too much of Trump.

[ehrnst]

114. The grenade lob disguised as a "question" is the opposite of subtle.

[mcar]

115. A. Not a hater

But nice try

IMHO, Sanders doesn't have policies. He has no plans to implement or pay for anything, just pipe dreams.

[BlueMTexpat]

116. I'm not a "hater."

I just don't like him as a Democratic candidate for President of the United States, especially when he can't commit to being a full-time Democrat.

He says good things, many of which I concur with in large part.

But his actual accomplishments over MANY years in Congress just do not measure up to those of my candidate or those of others. This is fact, not opinion.

Comparing Bernie's Words to Actual Accomplishments: the weight is very heavy on the words. We badly NEED accomplishments!

Bernie has also NOT shown himself to be a Team Player. It's too much His Way or the highway. We NEED a Team Player.

My candidate has proven herself to be a Team Player, with vision, who has plans actually to implement her vision.

Plus, as the LV debate showed, she can go head-to-head (or toe-to-toe, LOL) effectively with a billionaire without looking like she's going to pop a cork in mid-sentence or mid-gesture.

[Codeine]

120. His policies are fine. I agree with 99% of his platform.

I just don’t feel he has any sort of governing ability whatsoever. A president has to lead, convince, cajole, and compromise to enact his agendas. Obama could do that. Sanders? No, I don’t believe for a second that he has the temperament to be the chief executive.

I also don’t think he’s electable, but that’s just speculation, and I understand others believe differently.

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121. CNN-Sanders' agenda: Its cost -- possibly $60 trillion -- would set a peacetime US record

Here is the CNN article on which the OP was based

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Sanders' plan, though all of its costs cannot be precisely quantified, would increase government spending as a share of the economy far more than the New Deal under President Franklin Roosevelt, the Great Society under Lyndon Johnson or the agenda proposed by any recent Democratic presidential nominee, including liberal George McGovern in 1972, according to a historical analysis shared with CNN by Larry Summers, the former chief White House economic adviser for Barack Obama and treasury secretary for Bill Clinton.

Sanders' plan would also increase the size of government far more than any modern Republican president, including Ronald Reagan, has sought to cut it, Summers' analysis concluded.

"On the spending side, ... this is far more radical than all previous presidencies, on either the right or the left," Summers said in an interview. "The Sanders spending increase is roughly 2.5 times the size of the New Deal and the estimated fiscal impact of George McGovern's campaign proposals. This is six times as large of a growth of government than any of the Ronald Reagan dismemberments. We are in a kind of new era of radical proposal."

Exact cost projections on all of Sanders' proposals aren't available, in part because he hasn't fully fleshed out some of the ideas he's embraced (such as universal pre-K and child care). But a wide variety of estimates put the likely cost of the single-payer health care plan he has endorsed around $30 trillion or more over the next decade. Depending on the estimates used, including projections from his own campaign, the other elements of the Sanders agenda -- ranging from his "Green New Deal" to the cancellation of all student debt to a guaranteed federal jobs program that has received almost no scrutiny -- could cost about as much, or even more than, the single-payer plan. That would potentially bring his 10-year total for new spending to around $60 trillion, or more.