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If Warren came out of a brokered convention the winner (Original Post) redstateblues Feb 2020 OP
Probably. CalFione Feb 2020 #1
think you're essentially on point there. stopdiggin Feb 2020 #20
In a brokered situation like that, I'm thinking it would be Warren/Buttigieg musicblind Feb 2020 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author pinkstarburst Feb 2020 #41
I just want the very best person to beat trump! Cha Feb 2020 #2
We have several candidates that can do that. Unfortunately I'm afraid Bernie is not one redstateblues Feb 2020 #3
Exactly. Cha Feb 2020 #4
I agree. I think Warren could beat Trump. musicblind Feb 2020 #29
You are correct Pachamama Feb 2020 #32
Lulzd. Voltaire2 Feb 2020 #25
I would be good with that. krissey Feb 2020 #5
Of course you would! You're all in for Warren!! hangaleft Feb 2020 #14
I Wabbajack_ Feb 2020 #6
I'm biased, but I'd hope so caraher Feb 2020 #7
Some of my Sanders-supporting friends don't like her Dopers_Greed Feb 2020 #8
Many Sanders-supporting "friends" prefer to call her a "snake" CalFione Feb 2020 #9
Do they have a name for Bloomberg? denem Feb 2020 #13
"billionaire" TwilightZone Feb 2020 #26
If she fights like she did last night I'd be fine with her. mtron32 Feb 2020 #10
Excellent post hangaleft Feb 2020 #16
I don't think it will happen unless she completely drops medicare for all. RDANGELO Feb 2020 #11
Medicare for All moves into the second term. denem Feb 2020 #12
The platform committee decides that, not the candidate Recursion Feb 2020 #17
The delegates decide who the nominee is. RDANGELO Feb 2020 #19
Bingo. KPN Feb 2020 #31
Happy? doubt it. Buzz cook Feb 2020 #15
Does Warren gave a bunch of super delegates? tirebiter Feb 2020 #18
That's a good question. musicblind Feb 2020 #30
Hmmm. I'd be happy for sure. Mister Ed Feb 2020 #21
Absolutely, yes. Any Democrat nominee will be a galaxy better than Trump. Prof.Higgins Feb 2020 #22
Warren has been promoted to moderate Voltaire2 Feb 2020 #23
The OP didn't promote Warren to moderate. TwilightZone Feb 2020 #24
Funny. n/t Laelth Feb 2020 #44
I'd be happy. musicblind Feb 2020 #27
Yes, probably. Warren tags left on policy from the middle to help average people bucolic_frolic Feb 2020 #33
If it were to happen right now? No. Given that KPN Feb 2020 #34
I'd be perfectly fine with that. Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2020 #35
Moderates would. Who knows what the BS people would do? Squinch Feb 2020 #36
I would hope they would all rally to Sen. Warren Devil Child Feb 2020 #40
I so want her to create the contrast with Sanders and LEAD. Anon-C Feb 2020 #37
It'll be great, she can scold Trump to death. BusyBeingBest Feb 2020 #38
I'd be happy Devil Child Feb 2020 #39
With fhe caveat that this scenario is hypothetical and nobody know what will be going on then The Genealogist Feb 2020 #42
Progressives SHOULD be happy. Laelth Feb 2020 #43
Good compromise. Nt Quixote1818 Feb 2020 #45
 

CalFione

(571 posts)
1. Probably.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 02:26 AM
Feb 2020

10% on either side would moan for a month. But by November, they'd vote for her.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

stopdiggin

(11,292 posts)
20. think you're essentially on point there.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 06:03 AM
Feb 2020

a large majority of the party wouldn't have any trouble at all heading off to the polls with a Warren/?? ticket

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

musicblind

(4,484 posts)
28. In a brokered situation like that, I'm thinking it would be Warren/Buttigieg
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 07:17 AM
Feb 2020

Assuming the other candidates trade their delegates for specific things. I could see Buttigieg and Biden instructing their delegates to vote for Warren in exchange for Buttigieg as VP. (Biden seems to like Buttigieg a good deal, and I don't think Biden wouldn't want the VP slot himself.) I could see Klobuchar trading in for a prominent cabinet position befitting her impressive resume... IF she wanted it, that is. Also, I think Sanders would choose to stay in the Senate but would demand some pretty lofty policy promises in exchange for any of his delegates.

Again, this is all just random speculation about a hypothetical scenario in which Warren is the candidate who's chosen during a brokered convention.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to musicblind (Reply #28)

 

Cha

(297,044 posts)
2. I just want the very best person to beat trump!
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 02:32 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
3. We have several candidates that can do that. Unfortunately I'm afraid Bernie is not one
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 02:36 AM
Feb 2020

I wish it weren’t so

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musicblind

(4,484 posts)
29. I agree. I think Warren could beat Trump.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 07:19 AM
Feb 2020

It would be a little harder for her than it would be for Biden, but she'd definitely have a shot at getting the job done.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Pachamama

(16,886 posts)
32. You are correct
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 07:51 AM
Feb 2020

Feel the same way

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primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

krissey

(1,205 posts)
5. I would be good with that.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 02:44 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

hangaleft

(649 posts)
14. Of course you would! You're all in for Warren!!
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 03:23 AM
Feb 2020

So am I!! I’ve been all in for Warren since she announced her candidacy for the Senate.

I haven’t been this excited about a candidate for president since 1984 (Mondale). It’s been a long wait.

I just hope Liz gets the nod. I think she’ll kick rump’s ass from here to next Tuesday

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Wabbajack_

(1,300 posts)
6. I
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 02:44 AM
Feb 2020

am leaning strongly towards Bernie, I would be ok with it but many would be not be satisfied if anyone else got the nomination if Bernie got a plurality. I think we should have a national primary with a ranked choice ballot, end this nonsense with delegates!! How can we complain about the electoral college when we have this byzantine system?


I will say she seems to be in an ideological sweet spot for the party. To the right of Bernie but to the left of the others.

In addition she is very smart and qualified. She is not doddering (sorry but he is) like Biden or too young and inexperienced like Pete.

I think she is a 2nd choice for a lot of people and the last choice of very few.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

caraher

(6,278 posts)
7. I'm biased, but I'd hope so
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 02:44 AM
Feb 2020

As a Warren supporter, I'd be happy enough if, say, Klobuchar came out winner of a brokered convention.

In the end, I'd be happy enough with anyone so long as they win in November.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Dopers_Greed

(2,640 posts)
8. Some of my Sanders-supporting friends don't like her
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 02:49 AM
Feb 2020

She isn't sufficiently left-wing for them.



They would still vote for her over Trump though.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

CalFione

(571 posts)
9. Many Sanders-supporting "friends" prefer to call her a "snake"
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 02:50 AM
Feb 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

denem

(11,045 posts)
13. Do they have a name for Bloomberg?
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 03:21 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TwilightZone

(25,454 posts)
26. "billionaire"
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 07:07 AM
Feb 2020

Which they seem to find a bigger slur, though I'd have to disagree. The snake thing is rather petty and childish.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mtron32

(35 posts)
10. If she fights like she did last night I'd be fine with her.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 02:59 AM
Feb 2020

That's the Warren I was donating to years ago. Whoever that husk of a candidate was this fall needs to stay gone and maybe fire that campaign adviser that tried to soften her. She showed me the fight is still in here so she'd be a most excellent compromise candidate.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

hangaleft

(649 posts)
16. Excellent post
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 03:28 AM
Feb 2020

Yes, I like Liz on the issues.

But mainly I like her tenaciousness. She fights for her constituency and her core beliefs.

And that’s what we need at this juncture. A fighter. A president who will not kowtow to the special interests.

And a woman who will win in November and send rump packing.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

RDANGELO

(3,433 posts)
11. I don't think it will happen unless she completely drops medicare for all.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 03:08 AM
Feb 2020

I think that she is capable of doing that. Bernie - forget it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

denem

(11,045 posts)
12. Medicare for All moves into the second term.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 03:18 AM
Feb 2020

That's simple enough. The current proposal is to try and pass it after the midterms. So, no M4A in my first term. Done.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
17. The platform committee decides that, not the candidate
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 04:17 AM
Feb 2020

Many campaigns aren't recognizable after the convention finishes with them

If I were to vote in a presidential
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RDANGELO

(3,433 posts)
19. The delegates decide who the nominee is.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 04:20 AM
Feb 2020

After the convention nobody pays any attention to the platform.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

KPN

(15,641 posts)
31. Bingo.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 07:48 AM
Feb 2020

At least that’s the perception of the majority of voters.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Buzz cook

(2,471 posts)
15. Happy? doubt it.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 03:26 AM
Feb 2020

Fall in love then fall in line. We can hope that people unhappy that the person the love didn't win it all, will at least fall in line and beat Trumo.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

tirebiter

(2,535 posts)
18. Does Warren gave a bunch of super delegates?
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 04:19 AM
Feb 2020

Or what?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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musicblind

(4,484 posts)
30. That's a good question.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 07:25 AM
Feb 2020

I'm thinking the answer will be "maybe" depending on how the rest of the primary goes for her. She shook things up this week. That could pay off big or it could fizzle out.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Mister Ed

(5,928 posts)
21. Hmmm. I'd be happy for sure.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 06:34 AM
Feb 2020

I don't know if others may classify me as a moderate or a progressive or whatever, but you could definitely classify me as a happy camper if Warren were the nominee.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Prof.Higgins

(194 posts)
22. Absolutely, yes. Any Democrat nominee will be a galaxy better than Trump.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 06:59 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Voltaire2

(12,994 posts)
23. Warren has been promoted to moderate
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 07:01 AM
Feb 2020

only because Voldemort is surging.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

TwilightZone

(25,454 posts)
24. The OP didn't promote Warren to moderate.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 07:02 AM
Feb 2020

You might want to read it again.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Laelth

(32,017 posts)
44. Funny. n/t
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 09:42 AM
Feb 2020

-Laelth

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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musicblind

(4,484 posts)
27. I'd be happy.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 07:10 AM
Feb 2020

She's not my first choice, but she's a brilliant mind, a sharp linguist, and a strong fighter.

To win the White House, she might have to hit harder than Biden would, but I have no doubt she'd dish out every punch she could.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bucolic_frolic

(43,116 posts)
33. Yes, probably. Warren tags left on policy from the middle to help average people
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 07:58 AM
Feb 2020

rather than feints from the left to try to appear left of center. So her policy agenda is very much like the state she is from, Massachusetts, and historically very much within the American mainstream. Plus she is earnest in her beliefs and has credibility because she explains things that will stand up to scrutiny.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

KPN

(15,641 posts)
34. If it were to happen right now? No. Given that
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 08:00 AM
Feb 2020

there’s a lot of ground to cover before the convention? Maybe. It depends on the delegate counts going in and trust levels at the time. Building trust and acceptance if not respect between the two cohorts as well as between other Sanders supporters and other Dems generally would certainly help. That’s on all of us.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,164 posts)
35. I'd be perfectly fine with that.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 08:06 AM
Feb 2020

But then again, she’s my second choice, so it’s not a huge leap for me.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Squinch

(50,934 posts)
36. Moderates would. Who knows what the BS people would do?
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 08:39 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Devil Child

(2,728 posts)
40. I would hope they would all rally to Sen. Warren
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 09:11 AM
Feb 2020

I’m also hoping any Bernie or bust-ers would be a very very slim minority.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Anon-C

(3,430 posts)
37. I so want her to create the contrast with Sanders and LEAD.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 09:05 AM
Feb 2020

If it looks like a brokered convention I am the Draft Nancy movement; I know she will stand up to Trump and anyone else. Schiff would make a fine Speaker.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BusyBeingBest

(8,052 posts)
38. It'll be great, she can scold Trump to death.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 09:06 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Devil Child

(2,728 posts)
39. I'd be happy
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 09:09 AM
Feb 2020

Anyone but Bloomberg in the primary and convention will leave me satisfied.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

The Genealogist

(4,723 posts)
42. With fhe caveat that this scenario is hypothetical and nobody know what will be going on then
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 09:30 AM
Feb 2020

At this point, I would be quite happy if she were the party's nominee. She is my second choice, and I am impressed with her. I feel strongly that she would be an excellent president.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
43. Progressives SHOULD be happy.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 09:41 AM
Feb 2020

I can't speak for the moderates, but it seems likely that Warren would choose Julian Castro as her running mate. I don't know if that would make a difference in the minds of moderates.



-Laelth

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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