Bernie Sanders briefed by U.S. officials that Russia is trying to help his presidential campaign

[Dennis Donovan]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/bernie-sanders-briefed-by-us-officials-that-russia-is-trying-to-help-his-presidential-campaign/2020/02/21/5ad396a6-54bd-11ea-929a-64efa7482a77_story.html

By Shane Harris, Ellen Nakashima, Michael Scherer and Sean Sullivan

Feb. 21, 2020 at 4:16 p.m. EST

U.S. officials have told Sen. Bernie Sanders that Russia is attempting to help his presidential campaign as part of an effort to interfere with the Democratic contest, according to people familiar with the matter.

President Trump and lawmakers on Capitol Hill have also been informed about the Russian assistance to the Vermont senator, according to people familiar with the matter, who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive intelligence.

It is not clear what form that Russian assistance has taken. U.S. prosecutors found a Russian effort in 2016 to use social media to boost Sanders campaign against Hillary Clinton, part of a broader effort to hurt Clinton, sow dissension in the American electorate and ultimately help elect Donald Trump.

“I don’t care, frankly, who Putin wants to be president,” Sanders said in a statement to The Washington Post. “My message to Putin is clear: stay out of American elections, and as president I will make sure that you do.

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Major ratfucking going on.

[highplainsdem]

1. Of course they're trying to help Sanders. They know Trump can beat him.

[PatSeg]

3. In many respects,

Putin and his gang are a lot smarter about our politics than a lot of Americans.

[2naSalit]

68. And they are taking full advantage of it with the blessings of the GOP. ...nt

[PatSeg]

71. They are masters at this stuff

and they play the long game. It appears that republicans were probably easier than Putin could have anticipated.

[2naSalit]

76. Indeed.

They will do whatever it takes too.

[Kurt V.]

32. That's not it. Sanders can well beat trump. It's to divide dems. It's working :(

[lapucelle]

64. The WaPo story said that Russia is trying to help the BS campaign.

How would dividing Democrats help BS?

[tiredtoo]

77. The truth is....

The Russians are trying to help trump by dividing Democrats.

[lapucelle]

84. "Bernie Sanders briefed by U.S. officials that Russia is trying to help his presidential campaign"

is the headline of the WaPo story.

I don't think helping Sanders divides Democrats. I also don't think manufacturing a phony toxic twitter faction helps his campaign.

I wonder if any of the other Democratic candidates were briefed.

[Butterflylady]

94. Of course not

Russia knows full well what's going to happen in the GE. Heck, it's probably puttins plan. After all he was head of Russia Intel and knows how to do it. He's not investing in trump for nothing. He's putting Sanders exactly where he wants him.

[Kurt V.]

142. i think it's meant to ultimately help trump

[lapucelle]

145. I do as well. N/T

[uponit7771]

135. Sanders doesn't have any historical swing state banding that indicates he gets outside of MOE. The

... national polls don't matter, Sanders isn't beating Trump in the swing states Biden is.

[Kurt V.]

146. yes but.. these percentages in the swing state polling is still very close for biden and sanders.

Sanders leads in Michigan for example but by 1% point over biden

[Bear Creek]

86. Biden bot bro

Russia is doing this to divide democrats and you are playing right into it.

[PatSeg]

2. Whoa!

I wonder what went on in Bernie's head when he was told that. Or did he already suspect that was happening?

Meanwhile, its starting to look a lot like 2016 all over again. I remember Trump sure didn't want to hear about Russians helping him in the last election.

[LexVegas]

4. We're fucked. nt

[krissey]

6. Ah but Sanders, once again you miss the point. Putin, Republicans know if you are nominated you will

not be President. And they know any other Democrat would beat Trump. Hence the ratfucking.

[soldierant]

90. Of course that is the message they are trying to send.

But I don't know that it's an accurate one.

I don't deny that that are very, very smart.

But they are also such liars.

[krissey]

115. They have polls, and they have the garbage on Sanders. They went after Biden, Warren, Buttigieg,

Harris, Beto, and whoever else. Sanders? They embrace, encourage, actively work to get him the nomination.

Most of us know Sanders won't win. They do too.

[soldierant]

118. You may be right.

But it's equally consistent with "Sanders could easily win, so lets throw support his way and make sure they find out about it. Then they'll nominate someone else."

Yes, I'm devious. But so are they.

[krissey]

129. "But it's equally consistent with" No. It isn't, unless he made a promise to continue voting nay

when ever we try to get tough with Russia. Or donations are coming form Russia. Then maybe.

[Vivienne235729]

140. Exactly!

[YOHABLO]

7. So the Russians are manipulating all of the polling?

[YOHABLO]

12. I don't think Sanders needs the Russians help. You are implying that not me.

[YOHABLO]

16. Are you here to argue that the Russians are ''helping'' Bernie?

Show me the evidence.

[ehrnst]

29. Bernie Sanders briefed by U.S. officials that Russia is trying to help his presidential campaign

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142436288

[ehrnst]

19. Well, apparently they are certainly hoping that he's doing well

that would mean their efforts are working, wouldn't it?

[YOHABLO]

22. Hoping and Doing are two entirely different things. What efforts?

[ehrnst]

26. "Bernie Sanders briefed by U.S. officials that Russia is trying to help his presidential campaign"

Those efforts...

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142436288

[YOHABLO]

35. Yes, and so he's been briefed, I'm sure his campaign staff are being vigilant.

[sheshe2]

55. Oh please.

Nina
BriBri
David.



Stein voters.

[leftieNanner]

78. Perhaps

But why didn't he come out and announce it right away? It feels like he hid the information from the voters.

We have been living with a creature in the Oval Office who is less than transparent. This feels like a similar thing and I, for one, don't like it.

[Me.]

123. There's A Big Lack Of Transparency

Medical records, denial of his staff's statements, this intelligence report...all sounding very familiar

[ehrnst]

104. Of course. Like they were after they were told about Russian

bots posting on Sanders FB pages during the GE in 2016....

Remember when they told the public about that, and told his supporters not to continue doing that?

[Me.]

119. Well, I'll Tell You What I Wonder About

All the polls rocketing him to the #1 position. He hasn't increased the number of his voters according to analysts yet you'd think so from the polls we keep seeing.

[John Fante]

102. Yeah, I'm Russia is the single biggest reason why Bernie

has vaulted to frontrunner status. Come on now.

[ehrnst]

105. When one feels the need to deploy the "attacking a straw man" fallacy...

it's usually because they have no thoughtful rebuttal to the actual statement.

[John Fante]

107. Don't play coy.

How exactly are Russia's efforts working? You know damn well what you're implying. Back up your bullshit.

[ehrnst]

111. Coy?

[John Fante]

112. Your non-answer has been noted.

[ehrnst]

113. Hon, that poor, flogged straw man has been noted.

Perhaps going back and reading posts closely before firing off an angry response would save some embarrassment.

[ehrnst]

117. Tell me what you think of this:

Under the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act, an entity directly or indirectly established by a federal candidate or officeholder is not allowed to “solicit, receive, direct, transfer, or spend funds in connection with an election for Federal office” unless the “funds are subject to the limitations, prohibitions, and reporting requirements” of federal law.

According to Our Revolution’s tax returns showing contribution amounts but not contributor names, data compiled and first reported by the Associated Press, from 2016 to 2018 Our Revolution raised almost $1 million dollars from contributors who gave in excess of the applicable $5,000 contribution limit, including multiple contributions of between $100,000 and $300,000. Our Revolution has not disclosed any of its contributors to the FEC, as required by federal campaign finance law.

https://www.commoncause.org/press-release/common-cause-files-complaint-against-pro-bernie-sanders-group-our-revolution-for-violating-soft-money-ban/

[lapucelle]

128. ...

[George II]

138. "Back up your bullshit"?

[uponit7771]

46. Maybe, there's no op sec compliance with US polling companies. They just do what they want

[YOHABLO]

47. A lot of conspiracy theories being thrown around now. Gee wonder why?

[Me.]

121. So You Don't Believe Our Intelligence People Either?

[emmaverybo]

92. They did that 2016.

[Qutzupalotl]

8. The honorable thing for Sanders to do would be to drop out.

Country over party and personal benefit.

[Dennis Donovan]

11. Wouldn't that give the Russians a victory in fucking with our elections?

Forcing a major candidate to drop out?

[ehrnst]

24. No one is saying that he should be forced out

Someone expressed the opinion that he that he should voluntarily withdraw. Please read a post twice before firing off an angry response.



If Sanders was to withdraw from the race (which we know he won't, even if he has another "chest event" ) why would that 'hand Russians a victory?"

[Qutzupalotl]

59. No, they only care about keeping Trump in office

by manipulating us into nominating his most vulnerable opponent. We could deny Putin ultimate victory in November by nominating literally any of the other major candidates.

[John Fante]

110. Other than Biden, no one polls better than Trump than Bernie.

There's no evidence that he's the weakest candidate in the field.

[Qutzupalotl]

116. Perhaps not yet, but the full onslaught of opposition research has yet to be revealed.

Polls before that release are not very indicative of the general election vote.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287502598

[YOHABLO]

23. The honorable thing would be to stop bashing Bernie Sanders.

[ehrnst]

25. Expressing the opinion that he withdraw, on his own, is "bashing?"

[YOHABLO]

27. He's leading in all polls. Suggesting he ''drop-out'' is ludicrous.

[Evergreen Emerald]

31. But....why is he leading in the polls?

Russian interference perhaps?

[YOHABLO]

37. No, I'd say because people believe in Bernie more so than the other candidates.

[NurseJackie]

45. Exactly. We already have confirmation that polls were manipulated to favor Trump...

Exactly. We already have confirmation that polls were manipulated to favor Trump... and manipulating polls to favor the candidate that Trump could most easily defeat would certainly make a lot of sense. It's definitely not beyond the realm of possibility or likelihood.

No matter what, from this point on, the Bernie Sanders campaign will be tainted and under suspicion. For the good of the country, he should withdraw... in my opinion. (Others may have opinions that differ from mine, and that's okay, but this is MY opinion.)

[YOHABLO]

50. Confirmation of what? I've seen no evidence. No evidence, no case.

[NurseJackie]

52. Then you're not paying close enough attention.

[YOHABLO]

53. Uh, yeah you have my undivided attention. Right Now. Go for it.

[NurseJackie]

58. LOL!

https://lmgtfy.com/?q=trump+poll+rigging

[YOHABLO]

61. Not sure what your intent is with that.

I know how to Google. I also know how to read and comprehend. I dare not continue with this discussion. It's going nowhere. We will have to agree that we disagree. Have a good one.

[NurseJackie]

79. I'm relieved to see that you recognize that you're arguing from a position of weakness...

We will have to agree that we disagree.

Okay, well, whatever. I'm afraid I must point out, however, that we don't simply "disagree". The fact of the matter is that you're wrong. Whether or not you choose to admit it is another matter entirely. That's fine. But I do give you strong props for the fact that you recognize that you're arguing from a position of weakness, and have chosen to try an execute a face-saving maneuver by pretending that "both sides" have valid points.

All I'm trying to say is that it's VERY clear that manipulation has happened and CONTINUES to happen on behalf of Trump. I see absolutely no reasonable argument against also being suspicious of the poll results that appear to benefit Bernie. We already know for a fact that Russia is working on Bernie's behalf. We already know that his campaign has been tainted as a result. It does not take an extraordinary "leap of faith" to also presume that anything at all that benefits Bernie also has Russian fingers in it. But, it does take lot of "faith" and myopia to flat out deny it.

Goodbye for now.

[sheshe2]

63. So the Mueller report was false/fake too?

[YOHABLO]

69. Oh please. That's not even part of the discussion. Next.

[George II]

75. The Mueller Report concluded, based on the evidence they had, that Russia helped both....

...trump and Sanders. CNN just did about a 5-minute segment on that, including excerpts from the report itself.

[sheshe2]

80. Ummm, Sorry. It has everything to do with this discussion.

Bernie and Trumps campaign were both mentioned in that report as being aided by Russia. Did you not read any of the report?

(Volume I, Part IV, pgs. 146-147, 166-167, 173)
— Karoun Demirjian

2:30 p.m.: Russian interference sought to boost Bernie Sanders in 2016, report says
The report provides a fresh look at allegations that the Russian-based Internet Research Agency not only interfered in the 2016 campaign on social media on behalf of Donald Trump but also to help Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), a candidate for the Democratic presidential nomination.

Internal IRA documents “referred to support for the Trump campaign and opposition to candidate Clinton,” according to the report. While much of this section of the report is redacted, it cites directions to IRA operators not to harm Sanders.

“Main idea: Use any opportunity to criticize Hillary [Clinton] and the rest (except Sanders and Trump — we support them),” quotes the report.
Allegations of the pro-Sanders strategy by Russian influencers came up in 2018, when the Justice Department charged 13 individuals and three companies with interfering illegally.

More: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/mueller-report-russia-investigation-findings/2019/04/18/b07f4310-56f9-11e9-814f-e2f46684196e_story.html

[YOHABLO]

91. Yeah, I read the report. Is it suppose to persuade me to vote for a particular candidate?

This is old news folks. I'm going to vote for the Democratic Party's nominee. I would prefer a Progressive like Warren or Sanders. I find that people who are intellectually weak are the ones most likely to be manipulated. I'm confident that I make good decisions.

[sheshe2]

93. Ummm

YOHABLO (7,274 posts)
91. Yeah, I read the report. Is it suppose to persuade me to vote for a particular candidate?

This is old news folks. I'm going to vote for the Democratic Party's nominee. I would prefer a Progressive like Warren or Sanders. I find that people who are intellectually weak are the ones most likely to be manipulated. I'm confident that I make good decisions.

Well history seems to be repeating itself in 2020.

[ehrnst]

108. You think all those Sanders supporters who shared Bot posts in the GE were "intellectually weak?"

A pair of Clemson University researchers, at the request of The Washington Post, examined English-language tweets identified as coming from Russia, many of which were designed to influence the election. It is impossible to say how many were targeted at Sanders supporters because many don’t include his name. Some 9,000 of the Russian tweets used the word “Bernie,” and those were “liked” 59,281 times and retweeted 61,804 times.

But that was only one element of the Russian effort to target Sanders supporters, the researchers said. Many thousands of other tweets, with no direct reference to Sanders, were also designed to appeal to his backers, urging them to do anything but vote for Clinton in the general election.

“I think there is no question that Sanders was central to their strategy. He was clearly used as a mechanism to decrease voter turnout for Hillary Clinton,” said one of the Clemson researchers, Darren Linvill, an associate professor of communications. The tweets examined in the new analysis “give us a much clearer understanding of the tactics they were using. It was certainly a higher volume than people thought.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/inside-the-russian-effort-to-target-sanders-supporters--and-help-elect-trump/2019/04/11/741d7308-5576-11e9-8ef3-fbd41a2ce4d5_story.html

[MrsCoffee]

144. Yeah, that's what we thought.

No amount of evidence will be enough for some.

[JudyM]

97. Ok, exactly how do you think Russia is impacting the polls?

[ehrnst]

106. Well, the GOP has certainly been promoting him, while attacking Biden

perhaps there were also Russian backed efforts to promote him as well?

The team that rigged the GOP primaries accuses Democrats of rigging Iowa against Sanders


Republicans claim Nancy Pelosi is intentionally helping Joe Biden and hurting Bernie Sanders by delaying the Senate impeachment trial

Trump and His Aides Focused for Now on 2 Rivals (Neither Is the Front-Runner)

Republican strategist Karl Rove says Bernie Sanders could beat Donald Trump in 2020

Republicans pray for Bernie as Democratic nominee

[JudyM]

122. Not seeing how polls of Dem voters were impacted by Russians here.

Sanders has been beating trump in head to head polls.

[ehrnst]

130. I said the GOP has certainly been promoting Bernie.

Speaking of polls - Biden and Bloomberg are doing better that Sanders against Trump, and Buttigieg is tied with Sanders....

I'm just saying that Sanders isn't being targeted with smears like Biden is. If you think that smears don't affect polls, you clearly weren't around in 2016 during the general.

Why do you think is impacting the polls?

[John Fante]

114. That's ridiculous.

[ehrnst]

33. Sanders supporters were petitioning the DNC to make HRC to drop out

and install Bernie as the nominee, because she fainted, and she had already won the primary...

[YOHABLO]

40. I was a Sanders supporter in 2016 and I didn't petition anyone.

I also voted for Hillary Clinton. I thought we were not suppose to rehash the 2016 election. It's one of the DU rules.

[ehrnst]

41. I didn't say you did.

[YOHABLO]

44. Well it's all news to me. Never heard of a petition to make Sanders the nominee.

[ehrnst]

49. You weren't paying attention...

These were posted after the primary, which she won - by a large margin, if I recall.

https://www.change.org/p/the-petition-the-dnc-to-nominate-bernie-sanders-to-replace-the-very-sick-hillary-clinton

https://www.change.org/p/democratic-national-committee-replace-hillary-clinton-with-bernie-sanders-for-the-democratic-nomination

Now you know, any thoughts? Especially now you edited your original reply...

[YOHABLO]

51. Yeah, I've got a thought. MOVE ON ! IT'S OVER. WE GOT TRUMP.

[ehrnst]

57. The truth really hurts, doesn't it?

[frantic attempt to change the subject....]

[George II]

67. Unbelievable. I'd forgotten about them. To think both of them were long after the Convention....

....and vote to make Hillary Clinton our nominee - one in September and apparently the other just about a week before Election Day.

[ehrnst]

95. I will never forget.

[Qutzupalotl]

65. If you know that Putin wants us to nominate Sanders to keep Trump in office,

the honorable thing is to save the republic by any reasonable means necessary, and that includes warning Sanders supporters they’re being played.

[YOHABLO]

73. I'm going to vote. That's the honorable thing to do.

[ehrnst]

28. I agree, but Sanders will not turn loose of this last chance for

those cheering crowds, even if he has another 'chest event.'

This 2020 run is about him.

[dalton99a]

10. Deja vu.

[highplainsdem]

13. Julia Ioffe: They supported him in 2016, too.

Link to tweet

Editing to add another two more tweets from Ioffe, starting here, full text below:

Link to tweet

As I reported in 2016, Russian state media had two candidates they were rooting for: Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders. They were the candidates that, in the Kremlin's view, would 1) create the most chaos in the establishment, thereby weakening the U.S., 2) be friendlier to Russia.


By the fall of 2016, it was Trump and Jill Stein.

[ehrnst]

36. He was told that was happening during the general election and he said NOTHING

to his supporters that were making the bot posts go viral.

[uponit7771]

43. +1, this time he has no choice ie the statement. This is so screwed up ... so screwed up

[Me.]

120. Why Is What I Want To Know

where's his supposed transparency

[ehrnst]

131. SHHHHHH!!!!!

DoublePlusThoughtCrime!!!!!

[Me.]

136. Larry O'D Just Said He Was Told A Month Ago

and he hinted at it during the debate. Why didn't he just come out and say it?

Edited to add...was asked the question and said because he gets a lot of intelligence briefings that he doesn't talk about...so basically a non answer

[Progressive dog]

15. Help for Bernie from Putin is

not intended to get Bernie elected.
Putin has his favorite already installed. H ewnats to keep hium there.

[Cha]

18. Exactly.

[redqueen]

21. ...

Sanders. They were the candidates that, in the Kremlin's view, would 1) create the most chaos in the establishment, thereby weakening the U.S., 2) be friendlier to Russia.

[Cha]

17. So why then would they be posing as

"Sanders disruptors"?

[Dennis Donovan]

39. Their #1 goal is to sow division in the Democratic Party, to weaken us.

That's why it's important to be able to recognize it as such.

[Me.]

137. Excellent Question

[Cha]

139. Doesn't make sense.. my Educated guess is they are

NOT.

[Mike 03]

20. Dennis Donovan, Sorry! I didn't see you had posted this!

My bad.

[Dennis Donovan]

34. No worries - well, I am worried, but not about dupes

[CentralMass]

30. They are apparently living in Iowa posing as ordinary Iowans znd have infiltrated

The Iowa Democratic party.

[ehrnst]

60. That poor straw man....

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What did it ever do to you?

This revelation about Russian support for Sanders is really causing some angst among certain folk here on DU.

[uponit7771]

42. shit

[NurseJackie]

48. If Bernie "wins" the party's nomination... it will be tainted. People will always wonder...

If Bernie "wins" the party's nomination... it will be tainted. People will always wonder... if he earned it fair and square. People will wonder if it's even worth voting in a process that's "rigged" by the Russians.

Is it time to go back to letting the PARTY pick our nominee... in vape-filled backrooms? At least we know that those doing the picking are loyal to the party and have both the party and the country's best interests in mind.

Having a nominee picked by Russia (or heavily influenced by Russian manipulation) really doesn't sound like a good idea to me.

I'm against it.

[aeromanKC]

56. No need to wonder

When Bernie loses to Trump, McConnell remains Senate leader and Pelosi loses the House gavel. It will be an obvious blood bath orchestrated by Putin.

[Dennis Donovan]

81. If he gets the nomination (by whatever means), what about the GE?

Way more important, IMO.

[NurseJackie]

83. I know... by then it will be too late.

[denem]

82. And trump will say - 'The Russians aren't supporting me, they're backing the communist'

[NurseJackie]

85. That's exactly right... he already knows how to frame it.

The damage has been done. Trump is likely to win a second term.

The Supreme Court will end up with an 8 to 1 conservative majority. Roe v Wade will be reversed and marriage equality will be threatened.

[denem]

88. Bernie will not be the nominee.

He will be vetted before the nomination. Mike will get it done.

[denem]

100. Right on time.

Gowdy: "Nobody really thinks Russia prefers Trump over 'comrade' Bernie Sanders".

Comrade Sanders? Sounds like a trump nickname.

[uponit7771]

126. +1, & it will be his fault for not denouncement outside involvement in US elections when he found ou

[lapucelle]

54. Did bribri believe the officials?

[Hermit-The-Prog]

62. Basing an argument on trump being right means you lost the argument.

[lapucelle]

70. It is remarkable that bri was shilling that RW talking point during the 2016 general election. N/T

[ehrnst]

66. Goodness me...

Someone is clearly making their job easier...

[Gothmog]

72. Neither trump nor Putin want Joe to be the nominee

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[Hermit-The-Prog]

74. They've each worked hard to undermine him.

[Dennis Donovan]

98. That's a factor for sure.

[uponit7771]

125. +1, Fact Not In Dispute .. makes me want to support him more

[disndat]

87. Eventually, more details will come out

as to how much the Russians infiltrated the Sanders campaign to help, as they did against the Nevada Culinary Union.
Buttigeig accused Sanders campaign of taking "dark money."

[uponit7771]

127. Buttigeig knows something ... I pray he tells everyone else.

[yaesu]

89. so, what is the federal government going to do about it, Bernie & I pay taxes so this kind of thing

doesn't happen.

[C Moon]

96. I think that was a responsible statement. Sanders can't help who Putin wants to help.

[uponit7771]

133. No, Sanders could've denounced outside involvement in US elections the second he found out & decided

... not to.

I don't see how that helps US elections overall

[PatrickforO]

99. Yes there is. I said on another post I have no idea what Bernie is going

to do or should do.

It is kind of a 'can't win' situation. Which is what Putin wants.

If Bernie tries to be really transparent, no one will believe him or his surrogates when they say anything.

If he keeps on keeping on as he seems to be, we can count on him doing pretty well in the rest of the primaries but then (perhaps) losing in the end. In that case his Russian 'supporters' will pull out all stops to draw Bernie supporters away from the Democratic party to vote Green or Libertarian. And, let's not forget that a certain member of the US Armed Services from HI who is in the race may well run as a third party candidate.

What, we wonder, will the FBI be able to do? They weren't able to stop Cozy Bear in '16 because of Moscow Mitch. Can they now, without the concerted support of the US Congress and Administration (no way they're gonna get THAT from the Senate or from Trump).

No, Putin is trying to ratfuck us all so Trump can get a second term and throw this nation into chaos. That is EXACTLY what he wants, and that is not Bernie's fault.

[rzemanfl]

101. When someone is being ratfucked they shouldn't try to keep it a secret for a month. No? n/t

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[John Fante]

103. If democratic voters show up, it doesn't

one lick what Russia does. See: 2018 mid-terms.

[ehrnst]

109. Well, that's what Russia did in 2016... convinced voters not to turn out

in the General for the Democratic candidate, who would normally have voted Democratic...

[uponit7771]

124. +1, .... and they funded 3rd party candidates in the swing states that over performed 300% each

Carter is correct; without Russia there is no Trump

[Skid Rogue]

132. Same station....

4 years later.

[uponit7771]

134. +1, and no one is asking why it took him a month to denounce outside involvement in US elections

[Skid Rogue]

141. Yes, of course

The Mueller report said the same thing, that the Russians were propping up Sander's during the 2016 primaries? Have we heard Sander's address that fact?

[MrsCoffee]

143. Again.