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brooklynite

(94,520 posts)
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 06:19 PM Feb 2020

Biden Adds a Claim to His Biography: An Arrest in South Africa

New York Times

LAS VEGAS — In at least three campaign appearances over the past two weeks, Joseph R. Biden Jr. has told a similar story as he tries to revive his campaign in states with more diverse voters. On a trip to South Africa years ago, he has said, he was arrested as he sought to visit Nelson Mandela in prison.

“This day, 30 years ago, Nelson Mandela walked out of prison and entered into discussions about apartheid,” Mr. Biden said at a campaign event in South Carolina last week. “I had the great honor of meeting him. I had the great honor of being arrested with our U.N. ambassador on the streets of Soweto trying to get to see him on Robbens Island.”

Mr. Biden referred to his own arrest twice more in the next seven days, including at a campaign stop here on Tuesday where he spoke of getting arrested in South Africa between efforts to coax his wife to marry him. That proposal occurred in 1977, both Bidens have said.

But if Mr. Biden, then a United States senator from Delaware, was in fact arrested while trying to visit Mr. Mandela, he did not mention it in his 2007 memoir when writing about a 1970s trip to South Africa, and he has not spoken of it prominently on the 2020 campaign trail. A check of available news accounts by The New York Times turned up no references to an arrest. South African arrest records are not readily available in the United States.

Andrew Young, a former congressman and mayor of Atlanta who was the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations from 1977 to 1979, said that he had traveled with Mr. Biden over the years, including to South Africa. But Mr. Young said that he had never been arrested in South Africa and expressed skepticism that members of Congress would have faced arrest there.
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Biden Adds a Claim to His Biography: An Arrest in South Africa (Original Post) brooklynite Feb 2020 OP
A sitting US Senator was arrested in South Africa not once but thrice Jake Stern Feb 2020 #1
I was just coming to post this. Because WTFFFFFFFFFFF. WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2020 #2
"Mr. Biden's campaign did not respond to five efforts to seek comment and clarification." WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2020 #3
I'm sorry to keep coming back to this, but imagine Biden sitting on this story for DECADES. WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2020 #4
At least with his Corn Pop tale there was a real, verifiable person Jake Stern Feb 2020 #5
wth, this is bizarre Celerity Feb 2020 #6
Seriously WTF? Moderateguy Feb 2020 #7
This is effing weird. Recall that BusyBeingBest Feb 2020 #8
More proof Biden is not the "safe" choice MoonlitKnight Feb 2020 #9
Imagine if Bernie said this. Ace Rothstein Feb 2020 #10
Not good melman Feb 2020 #11
I just don't understand why he would do this. Nanjeanne Feb 2020 #12
Maybe he was detained, not arrested. Nt Mosby Feb 2020 #13
and Mandela thanked him for it KayF Feb 2020 #14
Wow, that's a bit bizarre. cwydro Feb 2020 #15
 

Jake Stern

(3,145 posts)
1. A sitting US Senator was arrested in South Africa not once but thrice
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 07:32 PM
Feb 2020

and there was ZERO contemporary press coverage? Really?

Wonder what excuse is forthcoming?

"The SA government censored the news!"

"Reagan and Botha got together to cover it up!"

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WhiskeyGrinder

(22,329 posts)
2. I was just coming to post this. Because WTFFFFFFFFFFF.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 07:45 PM
Feb 2020
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WhiskeyGrinder

(22,329 posts)
3. "Mr. Biden's campaign did not respond to five efforts to seek comment and clarification."
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 07:48 PM
Feb 2020
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WhiskeyGrinder

(22,329 posts)
4. I'm sorry to keep coming back to this, but imagine Biden sitting on this story for DECADES.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 07:56 PM
Feb 2020
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Jake Stern

(3,145 posts)
5. At least with his Corn Pop tale there was a real, verifiable person
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 08:17 PM
Feb 2020

Albeit in an obituary but still. . . .

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Celerity

(43,337 posts)
6. wth, this is bizarre
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 03:18 PM
Feb 2020

Why is he doing this?

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Moderateguy

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7. Seriously WTF?
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 03:20 PM
Feb 2020

I can understand if he was a nobody but he was a US Senator. This would have made international news

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BusyBeingBest

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8. This is effing weird. Recall that
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 05:14 PM
Feb 2020

Hillary was scorched for her combat landing story in Bosnia. How is this different?

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MoonlitKnight

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9. More proof Biden is not the "safe" choice
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 05:21 PM
Feb 2020

So many things from gaffes, to exaggerations, to voting record to god knows what else.

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Ace Rothstein

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10. Imagine if Bernie said this.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 08:59 PM
Feb 2020

This thread would have 200 replies.

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melman

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11. Not good
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 12:17 PM
Feb 2020

Not good at all.

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Nanjeanne

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12. I just don't understand why he would do this.
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 12:19 PM
Feb 2020
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Mosby

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13. Maybe he was detained, not arrested. Nt
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 12:24 PM
Feb 2020
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KayF

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14. and Mandela thanked him for it
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 12:24 PM
Feb 2020
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/ex-ambassador-disputes-biden-story-of-getting-arrested-during-south-africa-visit

“After he got free and became president, he came to Washington and came to my office,” Biden said of Mandela at a brunch in Las Vegas this week. “He threw his arms around me and said, ‘I want to say thank you.’ I said, ‘What are you thanking me for, Mr. President?’ He said, ‘You tried to see me. You got arrested trying to see me.’”

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cwydro

(51,308 posts)
15. Wow, that's a bit bizarre.
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 12:52 PM
Feb 2020

Wtf?

Gotta go do yard work, but coming back to research this.

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