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Fri Feb 21, 2020, 07:34 PM

 

All Russia cares about is sowing chaos and division among Americans.

Russia doesn't care what the result of the election is, all they want to do is divide the American people and grind our political system to a halt. By making it known they are "supporting" Sanders, they have successfully outraged a significant number of people. There are already posts on this forum questioning the results of the election if Bernie becomes the nominee. This is exactly what Putin wants. Time to take a step back and breathe.
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Reply All Russia cares about is sowing chaos and division among Americans. (Original post)
HerbChestnut Feb 2020 OP
marlakay Feb 2020 #1
Fresh_Start Feb 2020 #2
TheCowsCameHome Feb 2020 #3
boston bean Feb 2020 #4
Cha Feb 2020 #5
Mike 03 Feb 2020 #6
Fresh_Start Feb 2020 #9
Martin Eden Feb 2020 #18
elleng Feb 2020 #7
W_HAMILTON Feb 2020 #8
relayerbob Feb 2020 #10
TwilightZone Feb 2020 #14
relayerbob Feb 2020 #15
TwilightZone Feb 2020 #16
Anon-C Feb 2020 #11
DrToast Feb 2020 #12
Blue_Tires Feb 2020 #13
DanTex Feb 2020 #17
Dennis Donovan Feb 2020 #19

Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Fri Feb 21, 2020, 07:36 PM

1. They have done a great job too

 

Right and left can barely speak to each other, progressives and moderates tolerate barely each other sometimes.

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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Fri Feb 21, 2020, 07:36 PM

2. of course Russia cares about the results of the election

 

look at the russian economy, based on fossil fuels.
look at the advantages russia will reap in a global warming world.

Russia doesn't want reduction in fossil fuels, russia doesn't want effective reversal of global warming.


the chaos and division are merely the cherry on top of the whipped cream.
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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Fri Feb 21, 2020, 07:37 PM

3. Encourging (R's) to crossover and vote for Bernie

 

in the primary sets up good chances for a Trump re-election.

Great, huh.

We're so screwn.
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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Fri Feb 21, 2020, 07:38 PM

4. Then Bernie should have let it be known Russia was helping him.

 

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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Fri Feb 21, 2020, 07:38 PM

5. All russia cares about is getting trump rigged in like the

 

last ******* time
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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Fri Feb 21, 2020, 07:39 PM

6. No, that's not "all" Russia cares about

 

They care about the US leaving them alone in Ukraine
Us getting out of NATO
Us getting out of South Korea
Russia would like us out of Afghanistan
Getting out of Syria
Removing sanctions, especially the Magnitsky Act
Leaving them alone in the Arctic
Terminating our agreements with other developing nations so that they can fill the void left by our absence
Generally, weakening out international presence and authority
Not participating in climate action, so it gives them cover to do the same
Weakening out strong ties with European nations (See "NATO" above)

And probably a dozen other things Fiona Hill could explain to us.

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Response to Mike 03 (Reply #6)

Fri Feb 21, 2020, 07:40 PM

9. +1000 NT

 

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Response to Mike 03 (Reply #6)

Fri Feb 21, 2020, 09:32 PM

18. Yep

 

I scanned other replies before posting some of that.
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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Fri Feb 21, 2020, 07:40 PM

7. They sure as hell DO care about the results,

 

it's ridiculous to not recognize that.

Chaos is russians' and trump's preferred m.o.
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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Fri Feb 21, 2020, 07:40 PM

8. Oh bullshit.

 

All Russia cares about is getting their puppet elected (mission accomplished) and reelected (pending) so that he can continue to do Putin's bidding from our White House.

They will support whoever can help them accomplish that and attack whoever they view as an impediment to that.
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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Fri Feb 21, 2020, 07:40 PM

10. Yes, I agree, absolutely correct

 

The story may or may not even be true, as long as the GOP can say they told Sanders about it, and "leak" the story. Then, pretend to be outraged. Causes even more chaos in the Dems, casts more doubt on the elections, and will allow Trump to claim, in the event of a Sanders victory, that it's rigged and fake, and refuse to leave office.

Insidious, and the GOP is completely complicit in this treason. The whole bloody lot of 'em.
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Response to relayerbob (Reply #10)

Fri Feb 21, 2020, 08:31 PM

14. "the GOP can say they told Sanders about it"

 

It wasn't the GOP, it was US intelligence sources.

Sanders also acknowledged that Russia was trying to interfere in the statement he released, so apparently he was convinced that there was evidence of same.

Conspiracy theories aren't required when reality isn't that complicated.
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Response to TwilightZone (Reply #14)

Fri Feb 21, 2020, 08:46 PM

15. End result is the same

 

A difference without a distinction
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Response to relayerbob (Reply #15)

Fri Feb 21, 2020, 08:52 PM

16. No, it's not.

 

One is true; one is false.
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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Fri Feb 21, 2020, 07:47 PM

11. Well as they say, we often give the advice we most need to take.

 

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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Fri Feb 21, 2020, 07:49 PM

12. They're not supporting him for President

 

They’re supporting him to run against Trump because they think Trump will beat him.
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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Fri Feb 21, 2020, 07:51 PM

13. They also helped him in 2016... Just sayin'

 

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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Fri Feb 21, 2020, 08:54 PM

17. Correct.

 

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Response to HerbChestnut (Original post)

Fri Feb 21, 2020, 11:01 PM

19. Wired Magazine just wrote about it:

 

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287556334
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