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Baitball Blogger

(46,700 posts)
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 09:16 PM Feb 2020

I'm confused about this new revelation that Russia is helping Sanders.

There are two running contradictions that are crossing streams. Or are they?

The first, that the polls claim that just about all the candidates can beat Trump, and Bernie would be in the top two strong contenders against Trump, depending on the poll. Now, hold that thought.

The second, that Russia is in favor of Sanders winning the primary so he can go up against Trump. Now, if you think about it, there can be only one reason why the Russians want Bernie. It's because they feel confident that they can do something that will influence the vote in Trump's favor. And my best guess is that they are confident that they can effectively meddle by spreading fears of socialism to depress the vote for Independents and Democrats and increase it for Republicans. That's the only way that I see a practical reason why they are picking a dog in this fight.

Now, let's go back to the first observation, where polls show that any candidate can beat Trump, and Bernie would be in the top two contenders. Don't you think that the people in those polls already know Bernie's Socialist leanings? What could Russia possibly inflict in this fight that would change their minds?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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Kurt V.

(5,624 posts)
4. it isn't rocket science. but it is an excellent real time experiment in psychology.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 09:22 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

drray23

(7,627 posts)
2. Bernie would be the weakest by far.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 09:19 PM
Feb 2020

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If he is the nominee,he wont be able to withstand the attacks on his past record as a supporter of south America leftist dictators and the myriad of other things that the right will pound him with.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

handmade34

(22,756 posts)
3. polls are nationwide
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 09:20 PM
Feb 2020

no accounting for individual states... electoral college is our concern

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Mister Ed

(5,928 posts)
8. Exactly. That's the answer to the OP's question.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 06:43 AM
Feb 2020

There's no paradox when you take into account that the polls quoted are national polls, and not polls taken in the various swing states.

Also, we must keep in mind that Putin's aim is to promote contention and chaos in our society. For that reason, Russia would support the most polarizing figure they could find among our candidates.

It's no fault of Bernie's that he might drive huge numbers of American voters into a frothing fury. Indeed, it may be a virtue. But it's a virtue he possesses in greater degree than our other candidates do.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
5. They probably realize Bernie is unlikely to win
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 09:24 PM
Feb 2020

and he is a divisive candidate. They like division.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
6. You're being WAY too logical... why are you interfering with a good Bernie bashing?!
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 09:36 PM
Feb 2020



Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

jcmaine72

(1,773 posts)
10. Yeah, we can't have that, can we?
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 07:03 AM
Feb 2020

It's getting so ridiculous around here that I halfway expect someone to question his whereabouts on the day JFK was shot.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
11. Welllll... now that you mention it!! hahahaha!!
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 07:10 AM
Feb 2020

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Gothmog

(145,130 posts)
7. #BernieKnew is trending for good reasons
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 09:39 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Baitball Blogger

(46,700 posts)
15. Well, I do hope someone asks Bernie why he voted in favor of Russia
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 10:36 AM
Feb 2020

so many times. It is now relevant.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Gothmog

(145,130 posts)
16. Bernie Sanders never had any intention of informing the Public
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 12:02 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
9. Sanders is within swing state MOE with Trump Biden is not, that's the big difference here.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 06:48 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
12. A Sanders Presidency weakens the American political system
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 07:18 AM
Feb 2020

Putin wants people who run against the American system. That includes Sanders.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

handmade34

(22,756 posts)
14. simply put
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 08:32 AM
Feb 2020

I appreciate that

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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