Bernie's got news for the Democratic establishment.

[pnwmom]

Once again, he's lumping Democrats like Nancy Pelosi and Adam Schiff along with Republicans like Mitch McConnell and Devin Nunes.
This should be disqualifying.

And this is why Elizabeth Warren could beat Trump in the general election, and Bernie couldn't. She would have a united party behind her.

Link to tweet

Bernie Sanders
✔
@BernieSanders

I've got news for the Republican establishment.
I've got news for the Democratic establishment.
They can't stop us.

ON UPDATE: So far, Bernie isn't even close to 50+%. If he wins a plurality of primary delegates -- but not a majority -- then a second round of voting will take place at the convention. (More, if necessary.) Guess who votes after the first round? THE DEMOCRATIC ESTABLISHMENT.

[David__77]

1. I like this news.

...

[UniteFightBack]

11. I bet you do. nt

[David__77]

14. I can appreciate a good sassafras.

Politics aside.

[the berner]

52. I do too

Bernie speaks for me

[UniteFightBack]

56. Well this is the DEMOCRATIC underground where we support the Democrats and their establishment.

GOT IT?

[Bear Creek]

59. Biden

Supports credit card companies.

[Bear Creek]

64. He supports them

Backs bills for them. That way you have to pay more and owe them longer.

[UniteFightBack]

66. Is this your attempt at some 'breaking news'? I mean really. nt

[SylviaD]

166. He has a point about Biden. nt

[wisteria]

107. He was a Senator in a State where Banks incorporate.

Delaware. Your comment isn’t clear, and you provide no proof.

[the berner]

67. Bernie is a Democrat

Says it right there next to his name.

So guess I'm supporting the democratic party after all.

Your welcome.

[UniteFightBack]

69. Wolf in sheep's clothing. You can't fool all the people. nt

[Bear Creek]

75. Yes he is.

A lot of the things he is for and done is straight from FDR.

[hangaleft]

96. Did FDR trash the Democratic Party?

I think that’s what most Democrats take issue with.

[Paka]

106. It was a different Democratic party in FDR's day.

I know, because I was alive back then.

[hangaleft]

115. I'm a radical lefty myself

But I don’t want another four years (probably more) of Herr Trumpf.

I would love to see Bernie’s platform enacted. But Americans aren’t ready for him.

But getting to the point of Sanders’ tweet and your apparent sharing of his disdain for the Democratic Party — if you and he have nothing but anathema for the Democratic Party, withdraw from the contest and run as a Green or form your own party. It’s nothing short of criminal to exploit the Party’s assets and resources with your right hand while smacking them down with your left.

[JudyM]

120. THIS.

[ehrnst]

169. Did FDR trash the Party that he needed help from to implement his agenda?

[NoDakLinda]

116. FDR was the pre-eminent anti-establishment president

Taken from: Author - Roosevelt - Institute

The Roosevelt Institute champions bold policy reforms that would redefine the American economy and our democracy. Follow us on Twitter @rooseveltinst and like us on Facebook.

"In taking on the vested financial and political interests that had largely brought about the collapse of the nation’s economy, Roosevelt touched a deep nerve in the American psyche. From this moment on, he was forever identified as the champion of the people, as a leader who was not only hated by the “economic royalists” that had seized control of the country, but as a man who “welcomed their hatred.”

"The bond that was created by FDR’s willingness to acknowledge and even highlight the profound gap between those in his own class and the vast majority of working Americans made him much more than just a populist leader. He also became, somewhat ironically, the pre-eminent anti-establishment president."

[ehrnst]

168. Ivy League educated, Beltway bureaucrat, political dynasty

Buoyant, smiling, energetic persuasive personality
Emotional intelligence
Diplomatic skills
Interpersonal skills
Establishment insider


Things that someone who is going to implement an "anti-establishment" needs to inspire trust in people.

Not seeing all those things in any one candidate, but Warren, by far, scores with the most.

[octoberlib]

171. Unemployment was at 30% and people were standing in bread lines. The times were different.

FDR was a capitalist and he didn't implement the New Deal by crapping all over the Democratic Party.

[ehrnst]

165. Sanders: I don't consider myself a Democrat

No, I'm an Independent," Sanders said when asked by MSNBC's Chris Hayes whether he now identifies as a Democrat.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/329418-sanders-i-do-not-consider-myself-a-democrat

[MontanaMama]

86. Nope.

Bernie is a user. He uses the Dem party when it suits his personal goals and disses it when it doesn’t. If he was a true Indy then he would run as such. Weak ass Indy and weaker Dem. His bumper sticker should read: Bernie...meh.

[McTwisty]

102. And how many years has he caucused with them?

He’s got a stronger voting record than anyone else in the race. Those are the facts.

[Skidmore]

174. Yes, he sure

loves him the NRA.

[wisteria]

108. Sanders because a Democrat because he couldn't run and have a chance to win.

Sanders, doesn’t want to work with Democrats, he wants to tear down the party and our country, and try and mild it into his ideal.

[EveHammond13]

118. when was the last time you checked

[octoberlib]

170. That's funny because Tom Perez said on MSNBC today that as of this moment Sanders is a registered

Independent.

[wisteria]

103. ++++++10000

[The Polack MSgt]

126. Berners don't believe in the Democratic party

It has been useless to tell them about this for years.

In the committed DU Sander's supporter mind WE ARE AS BAD AS THE GOP.

Well, actually we are worse - Never forget it - They don't

[betsuni]

141. They say we're worse.

[NoDakLinda]

70. And he dosen't change what he's saying.

You can't say anything bad about anyone but Bernie Sanders. That's their version of unity in the democratic party. Geeze! They think the biggest problem is, “if Bernie wins, where will he take the Democratic Party”? Global warming can wait…

Bernie hasn’t changed his message in 40 yrs. It’s called being consistent, and believing in what you are saying, because it is your message not someone else’s. Not being willing to “compromise” or sell-out in order to win.
Some interesting ideas I got from reading and summarizing an article:

JACOBIN:

Why They Hate Bernie
ByBranko Marcetic

"MSNBC’s Joy Reid was once a fan of Sanders, calling him “the great clarion voice in the Democratic Party,” before transitioning to attacking him full time. In fact, the network loved having him on during the Obama years to serve as the voice of ordinary progressives, offering him unqualified praise as late as 2014 for being a “bipartisan dealmaker” and securing “genuine progressive victories” as a senator.

What happened? One answer is that many prominent Democrats and liberals don’t want the things they say they want — whether it’s because it might alienate their donors, hamper their future money-making prospects, or both. Another answer is that, until 2016, Sanders wasn’t considered a threat to Democratic politics as usual.

The Democratic establishment was fine with Sanders when he was just a lonely voice fighting for progressive values, as long as the gravy train for consultants, lobbyists, donors, and former politicians kept on running. But once he went from just a voice in the wilderness to the head of a movement that threatened to upend this arrangement, something had to be done. This was why the prevailing media narrative around Sanders swiftly changed as his chances increased over the course of 2016."

[ehrnst]

167. "Doesn't change what he's saying."

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Bernie Sanders, now a millionaire, once called millionaire senators

Sen. Bernard Sanders, a Democratic presidential candidate who has defended his new millionaire status despite building his political career on railing against the 1%, said it was “immoral” for millionaires to be senators during his failed Senate bid in 1971.

Bernie Sanders pushes back at critics of his new wealth: 'I didn't know it was a crime to write a good book'

Sanders: “Well, the process includes 500 super-delegates on the second ballot. So I think that the will of the people should prevail, yes. The person who has the most votes should become the nominee.” He was the sole “yes” vote with five “no” votes from the rest of the primary field.

His response was the direct opposite of his 2016 presidential campaign, when he ran for the Democratic Party nomination against former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. In 2016, Sanders called the nomination process “rigged” and withheld his support for Clinton, who had received the majority of party delegates. Although Sanders later threw his support behind Clinton at the party’s convention in July 2016, he made it clear that he disagreed with the nomination process and how Clinton received the majority of delegates.

Bernie Sanders says he won't release full medical records

Speaking during CNN's town hall in Las Vegas, Sanders was asked to clarify whether his presidential campaign would be releasing full medical records, which he previously stated he would do. Sanders will take part in the Democratic candidate debate Wednesday night.

Last October he said, "The people do have a right to know about the health of a senator, somebody who's running for president of the United States -- full disclosure."

Sanders camp admits anti-Warren script was deployed in multiple early states

Sanders initially attributed the talking points to rogue staffers, and supporters launched an online campaign to convince people the document was fake.

Bernie Sanders backs away from 2005 gun vote

Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders backed away from a 2005 vote that gave gun manufacturers immunity from prosecution on Saturday night, announcing in a press release that he supports a proposed bill to amend that vote.

The new position is a reversal from statements Sanders and his aides have made throughout the campaign.

[sheshe2]

90. How so?

You applaud his calling both parties the same? Repukes and our Democratic party is one and the same?

[Cha]

136. We need a candidate to Unite the Democratic party..

that's not sanders.

[fleabiscuit]

137. Interesting thread...

Link to tweet

[Cha]

138. oh gawd..

I don't like listening to him but I did.

I wonder who "leaked it" so we know this?

Bri.(3rd party jill stein voter & pusher). "..donaldtrump was right.. ".. so many clues.. trump was dead Wrong.

Link to tweet

Thanks for that, flea.. I'm glad Riotwomenn is on this!

[Squinch]

156. Very. And it has been such a steady drip I didn't put together how consistent it is.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

142. Bernie speaks for every working class voter who's been ignored FAR too long & its why he's got this!

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

[ancianita]

20. I'm to the left of Bernie and I don't.

[David__77]

23. I don't think Sanders is all that "left," whatever that means.

In fact some “communists” are vehemently opposed to him and call him a “social fascist.”

[ancianita]

27. Yep. The reddit political quadrants come to mind.

[Bear Creek]

63. Most people

In America are clueless about socialism types and communism. tRump is nationalist he just forgets to say the socialist. Bernie is really a social democrat but people here don't know what that is. I find that after Reagan there are democrats and republicans lite. It is funny to hear so called democrats back pedal when socialism is mentioned when they should be expounding social security, public schools, fire departments, police departments, veteran hospitals, roads and bridges, unemployment insurance, drinking water, military, medicare, fema, g.i. Bill, national parks, bank deposit insurance, hazardous waste cleanup. FDR's 2nd bill of rights every American has the right to:
1 A job
2 An adequate wage and decent living
3 A decent home
4 Medical Care
5 Economic protection during sickness, accident, old age or unemployment
6 A good education

[David__77]

65. The other bill of rights is a good one!

And interestingly would help create excellent ground for the preservation of entrepreneurs’ productive initiatives. Polarization is a threat to social stability over the longer term.

A concept of human rights that leaves out work, rest, education, housing and health is entirely incomplete in my opinion.

[Bear Creek]

73. Democrat candidates

I believe should back that 2nd bill of rights and if they do not they should not be allowed to run.

[David__77]

74. I suppose that is what primaries can do, determine that.

The Democratic Party is steered by those empowered to drive.

[Bear Creek]

76. That is why

I am hopeful that Bernie or Elizabeth gets the nod.

[Squinch]

157. "Democrat" candidates should do that? You think so?

[Cha]

135. We need someone to Unite the Democratic Party..

that's not him

[George II]

2. UNITY NOW!

[stonecutter357]

3. How did you get off full ignore thanks ?

[uponit7771]

4. Sanders is ... NOT ... saying democratic establishment and republican establishment are the same ...

... not all all !!!

[pnwmom]

7. Sure he isn't. nt

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

29. OBVIOUSLY,but its Bernie, so bash away! Gets old after awhile, tho it boosts Bernie in the polls...

so, keep it up!! Thanks to you tho uponit for recognizing the truth of what's really going on.




Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

[uponit7771]

31. Nah, Sanders wouldn't say something like that ... not at all .... sigh

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

35. No he wouldn't... thanks for recognizing that!!

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

[Cha]

172. Did you Not Read the OP?!!

[oasis]

61. Nope, he's not saying it.......

....he's YELLING IT!

[CalFione]

5. This is the kind of tweet I would expect from Tulsi

[renate]

24. I don't think he meant it the way she would

But lashing out at the Democratic party is really not a good look for an Independent running for the Democratic nomination. Especially not for somebody who should be cognizant of the dignity befitting the front runner of that party, for goodness’ sake.

[cherryinpa]

6. Not nice.

Not nice at all.

[UniteFightBack]

8. This gets me ill. nt

[krissey]

9. Sanders has not been a help in the last two years fighting off Republicans, our Democrats are the

one doing the work and the heavy lifting. Sanders, just another hit upside our heads while you demand our vote.

[bamagal62]

10. Somewhat disturbing.

[TomCADem]

12. How Long Before a Bernie Then Complains About Lack of Unity? What a Hypocrite.

It is just amazing that folks fall for this. On the one hand, you have his campaign complain about attacks against him citing the need for unity. Then he turns around and attacks the Democratic party. Amazing.

[apcalc]

18. THIS KIND OF CRAP IS WHY putin likes him.

[Cha]

41. cindy nixon says he's the unity candidate..

Cynthia Nixon: The panicked Democratic establishment wants a 'unity' pick. That's Bernie.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287543738#top

[Cha]

128. Post 'em the Amy Siskind tweet..

[cherryinpa]

13. He needs to delete this tweet

Immediately.

[uponit7771]

33. THIS !!!!

[helpisontheway]

89. Naw leave it up there. I want people to see exactly who that bitter old man is..nt

[TwilightZone]

15. Right, the group that voted unanimously to impeach Donald Trump...

is on par with the group that acquitted him without witnesses or evidence.

This is why it's difficult for many of us to take Sanders seriously. It's a false equivalence of the most ridiculous kind.

[betsuni]

91. And the group that unanimously voted against the Trump tax cuts.

But every day we hear that all Democrats are corrupt and bought by Wall St./Big Pharma/corporations/billionaires. Enough is enough.

[concreteblue]

109. The false equivalence is

Your statement.
Senator Sanders said no such thing.
Is the Republican establishment against him and/or his policy proposals?
Demonstrably so.
Is the Democratic Party establishment against him and/or his policy proposals?
Also demonstrably so.
This does NOT equal "=".
Democrats tearing their front runner apart.
Why?

[TwilightZone]

153. This is his thing, he's been doing it for decades.

"Both sides are bad" should be his campaign slogan.

[Squinch]

16. JFC. This is disgusting.

[apcalc]

17. That takes Chutzpah. Hey Dem establishment!

Send him some news!!!!

Cut him loose!

[evertonfc]

19. He's a Democratic Socialist

that has a history of disparaging our party. He has a history of fawning over Marxists and Socialists. He's going to spilt this damn party. He will get us killed in GE.

[Bear Creek]

78. Social Democrat

The other is just what he calls it. What social programs are you scared of? Social security, fema, veteran hospitals, maybe the G. I. Bill, clean drinking water, our national parks?

[OnDoutside]

129. He probably would have been marginally better to have used Social Democrat.

But it doesn't take a psychoanalyst to figure out that he is still the old school Socialist beneath the veneer of Democratic, after all, he's still refuses to join the Democratic Party. The DNC should have had the courage to stand up to him (and supporters) before this primary season started.

[still_one]

21. If Sanders is the nominee, doesn't he need that Democratic establishment to win the GE?

[pnwmom]

22. Wouldn't you think? Of course, the difference is

that YOU know how to think.

[still_one]

32. +++ i really hope Elizabeth Warren gets some good traction from her

excellent performance at the last debate

I listened to her speech after the NH primary, and if there is any candidate that can unify the party, Warren sure can

[pnwmom]

45. I agree -- having the 2nd choice of 80% is better

than nominating the first choice of 30% (who 70% can't stand.)

[still_one]

50. Absolutely

[brer cat]

140. +++ nt

[TwilightZone]

26. He needs the Democratic establishment to win the nomination if he doesn't get a majority.

Burning bridges has unintended consequences. Alienating large groups of people you might later need seems like an odd strategy.

[floppyboo]

34. no. How many people work in think tanks? Not that many. How many lobbyists? not that many

I mean, compared to the whole population.
You've just got to decide whether you think they are doing a good job representing your interests.
According to all polls, on 'your interests' Bernie walks away easily in front.
You don't have to take care of the message makers. It's kinda scary really - kinda Stockholmish

[still_one]

42. He has made clear who he thinks are the Democratic establishment by hiring Jill Stein supporter Gray

and Hillary hating Sirota and Turner

[Squinch]

53. Nooooo! Because he has an invisible revolution in his pocket.

[still_one]

54. ahhh, now that answers my question

[musicblind]

25. Seriously?

What is he even doing?

Does he WANT to lose the general election?

For crying out loud, he is the FRONTRUNNER. When you're in the boat you don't rock the boat.

I know some moderates who are slowly warming to him but tweets like that will lose them in the blink of an eye.

[RockRaven]

28. Reminds me of Ralph Nader saying there's no difference between Gore and Bush.

Anyone who thinks their fighting a righteous crusade (whether or not they are instead actually tilting at windmills, as sometime is the case) is more important than making sure the world doesn't burn down while they do it will never get my vote.

[apcalc]

30. +1

[Hoyt]

38. I think we better be concerned about more than just his heart condition.

[highplainsdem]

43. True. His brain couldn't have been functioning very well when he tweeted that.

Talk about a way to alienate the party whose support he's supposedly trying to win...

[still_one]

44. +++

[HarlanPepper]

72. He got rattled the other night

He gets this weird look on his face when he loses it. Like he’s being shocked or something. He’d have a tough time making it through a GE campaign. Sad when Dump is physically more robust than a man who could be the nominee.

[Alhena]

39. This guy is a political suicide bomber, running into our party

[Squinch]

55. Best description yet!

[Hoyt]

84. Excellent description.

[Cha]

40. And his surrogate cindy nixon says..

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Cynthia Nixon: The panicked Democratic establishment wants a 'unity' pick. That's Bernie.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287543738#top

[Squinch]

58. Her timing was always a bit off...

[Cha]

105. Not sure any time was good for that one.. but

yeah.. BS follows it up with this..

Link to tweet

[Squinch]

144. I can't believe that idiotic nonsense. He's

believing his own spin.

[Cha]

145. Not sure why he can't try to win

on his own merits instead of sowing division?

[Squinch]

148. Not sure how he thinks saying that Democrats and republicans are equally his enemy will help him win

[BlueIdaho]

46. A bit of the megalomaniac in that statement... nt.

[Raftergirl]

47. I'm so furious right now.

I’m the Democratic establishment. I’ve never voted for a a Republican for any office since I started voting in 1976. I’ve volunteered on numerous campaigns over the course the last 4o some years.

I was pissed last time the party allowed him to run as a Democrat and this time and now I’m furious they allowed him to do it again. But, I’ve said all along if he gets the nom I will vote for him. Blue No Matter Who,

Not anymore.

He is a disgrace. I will not vote for him ever.

[ecstatic]

48. I'm feeling discouraged right now.

Bernie let Russia help him for a month without saying a word. Now all of us are arguing and divided. This is exactly what putin and trump want. I just wish people would WAKE UP! Especially the zillenials who are planning to vote tomorrow.

[BlueIdaho]

49. It's time for us to keep our heads...

Even as we start asking awkward and difficult questions. There are still plenty of primaries ahead - but this news - all of it - is a game changer.

[redstateblues]

80. It's fucking time to start calling him out for this crap before it's too late

[JudyM]

87. Uhhh. How would you propose he could have stopped them?

And how exactly are they “helping” him, anyway, since you’re critical of what he “let” them do.

[Meadowoak]

113. +1

[Squinch]

146. For one thing, when he learns that russia is using him to wreck our Democracy, he could have NOT

turned around and smacked Democrats, and he could have NOT equated Democrats and Republicans as his enemy.

Start there. Seems pretty basic.

[JudyM]

154. The question is what he could've done before the generic interference was made public.

[Squinch]

155. There are a LOT of questions. One being, what does he do once he learns about it. Answer: nothing.

Another question: what does he do once the word gets out? Answer: blames the Washington Post and says Democrats are as much his enemy as Republicans, and complains about how it affects him personally, with no reference to the fact that Russia is using him as a pawn to destroy our Democracy.

Question: What will he do about it now? Will he try anything to stop it? Answer: No. It appears he is spinning it to his advantage. He is blaming all his followers' worst behaviors on Russia and taking no responsibility for it. He clearly is going to do nothing other than his tepid memo, and he's going to keep benefiting from Russian interference by saying "what can I do? what can I do? It's everyone else's fault."

Real Presidential.

[JudyM]

158. Um, it was an intelligence briefing, you don't disclose that. And how can he stop internet spamming?

[Squinch]

160. You think his response, overall, was a) the best it could be? and b) as complete as it could be?

Do you really think that? You see no room for improvement in his response to this?

You have no problem with his blaming it on the Washington Post, rather than embracing the fact that it was out in the open and calling for help from the intelligence community or any private enterprise to stop it?

You have no problem with the fact that he learns he is a Russian pawn being used to dismantle our Democracy and his response is to tell Democrats they are as much his enemies as Republicans?

You have no issue with the divisiveness of that response at a time when we SO DESPERATELY need to unite?

You have no problem with his using this news to excuse the behavior of his most divisive followers?

Maybe you don't. I do.

[Sloumeau]

57. If Bernie Sanders thinks that he is not part of the establishment because he is a Democratic...

Socialist, then why exactly should regular Democrats support him? It sounds like he is off in his own little world.

[Squinch]

159. Because he has a secret revolution in his pockets that, one day, will swarm the voting booths.

They never HAVE done that, mind you, but he has total power over them and someday they will.

[kellytore]

62. I am tired of Bernie using our party as an extended stay hotel.

[Chemisse]

151. And trashing it at the same time. n/t

[subana]

68. naturally he lumps everyone together

he's neither a republican nor a democrat! I'm sure that, to him, everyone is the same. Even though they clearly are not!

yes, it should be disqualifying! I'm starting to think that we shouldn't let anyone run for office in our primary unless they join the democratic party!

[SunSeeker]

77. We already made that rule; Bernie signed the required pledge that he's a member of our party.

He appears to be ignoring that pledge.



https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/bernie-sanders-signs-dnc-loyalty-pledge-i-am-member-democratic-n979696

[subana]

82. thanks!

so when is he going to start acting like a democrat?

[SunSeeker]

97. My guess? Never.

He has never stopped proudly proclaiming he is an Independent, despite that pledge. Don't think that will ever change.

[subana]

152. yes, I think you're right! n/t

[aikoaiko]

71. As a Democrat I don't have a problem with this tweet or Bernie

[Bear Creek]

83. I agree

They are scared of real democrats. I am wondering how many here are actually republicans stirring the pot to reactions.

[Meadowoak]

114. +1

[JudyM]

79. Do you not understand what just happened?

Maybe you are unable or choose not to see it because you are so opposed to Sanders.

This information was leaked to the Post and released the day before the critical Nevada caucus where he is leading.

[sweetloukillbot]

93. Important news was reported...

To people who should know that news in order to make an informed judgement?

[JudyM]

98. What judgments?

[sweetloukillbot]

104. Whether to vote for him or not?

I'd like to know if a candidate was knowingly receiving aid from a foreign power.

[JudyM]

111. Knowingly receiving aid implies participating in it. He gave a powerful renunciation and threatened

Putin that he’s going to not be able to do this again if he’s elected. That Putin is intentionally sowing division. Which he is!

[sweetloukillbot]

112. A month after it started...

[JudyM]

119. It was an intel briefing. And there wasn't info about what was being done except online

misinformation, as far as I heard. He has spoken out against divisive social media.

[SylviaD]

81. wtf is Bernie thinking?? what is he up to here? nt

[Skittles]

101. it's all about him

[helpisontheway]

85. He is really starting to piss me off

So sick of him talking about democrats. If you are not a democrat (and you have so much anger towards democrats) then get the hell out of our primary. Pisses me off. I will vote for his stupid @ss if he is the nominee but I will not be happy about it.

[LW1977]

88. Brokered Convention please

[sweetloukillbot]

95. The other 5 candidates on the debate stage pretty much said there would be. nt

[showblue22]

92. I'm the dem establishment. I'm with Schiff and Pelosi

Bernie despises me. I don't think he even wants my vote.

[Ellen Forradalom]

99. Which is it, Bernie?

Are you in or are you out? Are you a Democrat or are you independent? Pick one and run with it.

[Skittles]

100. ...

[concreteblue]

110. What?

"Once again, he's lumping Democrats like Nancy Pelosi and Adam Schiff along with Republicans like Mitch McConnell and Devin Nunes. "
Uhm, NO.
Senator Sanders said no such thing.
Is the Republican establishment against him and/or his policy proposals?
Demonstrably so.
Is the Democratic Party establishment against him and/or his policy proposals?
Also demonstrably so.
This does NOT equal "=".
Democrats tearing their front runner apart.
Why?

[pnwmom]

121. Nancy and Adam are key parts of the Democratic establishment

and he spat in their faces with this tweet.

They are nothing like McConnelll and Nunes, except in Sanders' mind.

[EveHammond13]

117. Absolutely disqualifying.

[Jamaal510]

122. After all of these years

working in federal government, how is he still not also part of the "establishment"? I've always been confounded by that label, where some get pinned with it while others don't.

[pnwmom]

123. Because he's special, in his opinion. n/t

[dalton99a]

125. The ungrateful guest who pisses on your carpet and tries to burn your place down every four years

[OnDoutside]

127. To be fair, Bernie had news a month ago but kept it to himself....

[Cha]

130. It's confusing because it's said

it was "classified" and he wasn't suppose tell anyone.. but why shouldn't everyone know?

And, who allegedly leaked it? So many questions.

[OnDoutside]

131. It's not really confusing, it's the usual heads are trying to muddy the waters.

You are right though, so many questions. Normally I would say that it's fun to learn the answers, but there's no fun to be had here. There's one big question for me, if it was classified in the way some are trying to portray, who else did he tell this to, within the classification security level people of the Democratic Party ? Like Feinstein, Schiff, Warner etc.

[Cha]

132. Those are good questions.. hopefully

we'll learn more soon.

We need transparency not muddy waters.

[OnDoutside]

133. Definitely, and this is too big an issue for Sanders to bluster his way

past. I'd like to know when the Gang of Eight first heard about this, because they would know that the candidate is always informed so they can take action. Wishy washy statements that he made, don't cut it.

[Cha]

134. It's the ultimate issue right now.. no

matter how much anyone tries to downplay it.

Sorry, I don't know what else it says.. it's a paywall.

"I don't care, frankly, who [Russian President Vladimir] Putin wants to be president,"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/bernie-sanders-briefed-by-us-officials-that-russia-is-trying-to-help-his-presidential-campaign/2020/02/21/5ad396a6-54bd-11ea-929a-64efa7482a77_story.html

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287557087#top

[MFM008]

139. I got news for Sanders

He gets nothing from me until the vote Nov. 3.
No money. No effort.
No excitment.
Just dread.
And worry about losing the house with him as the nominee.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

143. That's how I feel about Joe... I do like Elizabeth though, so best of luck to her!

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

[madibella]

147. Wow. Yesterday's news brings incredible clarity to the whole

situation.

Inexplicably, something happened suddenly with the polls in Bernie’s favor, the wins/placement in the first two races etc. it was like someone stepped on the gas and Bernie became the front runner kind of out of nowhere. And yes, he is popular with many who truly believe in him.

But, something was not adding up. And now it does. He was being helped by the exact entity who helped Trump win.

First, get Bernie the nomination, then get Trump the presidency. Bots, money, people. He’s got his real followers and a coordinated and nefarious faction who will literally do anything to push him over the finish line.

They want Bernie and it appears that they are well on their way to meeting their goal. In my opinion a Bernie nomination equals 4 more years of Trump.

[Squinch]

161. This, exactly.

[uponit7771]

163. +1, thank you ... the timing on this is horrible for Sanders. Sanders should've said something at

... first to cover himself

[Walleye]

149. Sounds like a trump tweet

[NurseJackie]

150. It does, doesn't it?

#BernieKnew
#RussianInterference

[dalton99a]

162. Will Sanders ever join the Democratic Party?

[Happy Hoosier]

173. I would not be surprised....

If after the convention, he renounces the Democrat label and runs as an Independent.