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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

cherryinpa

(301 posts)
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 11:58 PM Feb 2020

I've tried to be positive on Bernie, but this latest tweet is shocking

Dem establishment is NOT equal to GOP.

No way.

I urge him to delete this tweet.

If not, then tomorrow DNC must come out and disqualify Bernie (and do the same to Bloomberg while we’re there).

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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I've tried to be positive on Bernie, but this latest tweet is shocking (Original Post) cherryinpa Feb 2020 OP
Appalling imo apcalc Feb 2020 #1
It is very insulting. madaboutharry Feb 2020 #2
The DNC "must?" David__77 Feb 2020 #3
I'm not shocked. nt Codeine Feb 2020 #4
must cluch my pearls the berner Feb 2020 #5
Or he could denounce outside involvement helping his campaign the second he found out? uponit7771 Feb 2020 #7
Exactly. wisteria Feb 2020 #26
yeah, hot damn, we sure wouldn't want any outside interests competing with.... NJCher Feb 2020 #33
False equivalence noted, those are super pacs and Biden's been honest. You go a point about someone uponit7771 Feb 2020 #35
try to put a little less effort into your post NJCher Feb 2020 #36
Yeah, you get the point ... not a good move for Sanders uponit7771 Feb 2020 #37
Yeah you 'cluch' all you want because you got no defense of this. You like this. This is a place UniteFightBack Feb 2020 #9
I need no defense of this the berner Feb 2020 #10
Post removed Post removed Feb 2020 #12
ok have a good night the berner Feb 2020 #14
they're so freaking obvious now Skittles Feb 2020 #20
Here it is. Paka Feb 2020 #21
If you cannot see the significance of this, you are no Democrat. wisteria Feb 2020 #25
What is he thinking !??! uponit7771 Feb 2020 #6
When it becomes more and more clear Deero Feb 2020 #8
Do you understand why Trump happened? k2qb3 Feb 2020 #11
No matter what people want to claim, Trump happened because of James Comey. StevieM Feb 2020 #15
Bingo! BigmanPigman Feb 2020 #23
that's ridiculous NJCher Feb 2020 #34
People don't want Bernie's Revolution wisteria Feb 2020 #30
Bernie has not changed. He has always been an opportunist. kellytore Feb 2020 #13
+1 showblue22 Feb 2020 #16
not shocking to me.. Cha Feb 2020 #17
I think he wants to be president in the worst way. cwydro Feb 2020 #40
Yup. Bernie appears to have violated the pledge that allowed him to run in our primary. SunSeeker Feb 2020 #18
this should be an OP EveHammond13 Feb 2020 #29
+! MontanaMama Feb 2020 #19
+1 EveHammond13 Feb 2020 #28
Doesn't matter RandySF Feb 2020 #22
It is shocking, and angers me. wisteria Feb 2020 #24
+1 EveHammond13 Feb 2020 #27
Agreed. Is he out or in? Ellen Forradalom Feb 2020 #31
He didn't actually say they were Warpy Feb 2020 #32
Agreed. However I wonder what compelled him to write that. honest.abe Feb 2020 #38
#BernieKnew Gothmog Feb 2020 #39
That he still tweets shit like that after the news of Russian involvment broke kcr Feb 2020 #41
 

apcalc

(4,528 posts)
1. Appalling imo
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 12:05 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

madaboutharry

(42,036 posts)
2. It is very insulting.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 12:07 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

David__77

(24,859 posts)
3. The DNC "must?"
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 12:08 AM
Feb 2020

I guess people can protest against Tom Perez.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
4. I'm not shocked. nt
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 12:08 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

the berner

(8 posts)
5. must cluch my pearls
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 12:37 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

uponit7771

(93,532 posts)
7. Or he could denounce outside involvement helping his campaign the second he found out?
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 12:41 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

wisteria

(19,581 posts)
26. Exactly.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 02:48 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NJCher

(43,518 posts)
33. yeah, hot damn, we sure wouldn't want any outside interests competing with....
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 03:49 AM
Feb 2020

snip
...banker Roger Altman, chairman of Evercore and former a former Clinton administration official, and South Carolina lawmaker Dick Harpootlian, who each gave $250,000. Democratic megadonor Bernard Schwartz, chairman of BLS Investments and a top supporter of the Clintons, gave the PAC $100,000. Boston Red Sox chairman Thomas Werner gave $75,000, and financier Blair Effron, previously a major supporter of Kamala Harris, gave $50,000."

or this:

Nearly $1 million of DMFI's funds came from Stacy Schusterman, the chair of Samson Energy Company, while another half-million dollars came from Gary Lauder, a venture capitalist from the Lauder cosmetics family.
snip
Link.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

uponit7771

(93,532 posts)
35. False equivalence noted, those are super pacs and Biden's been honest. You go a point about someone
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 05:21 AM
Feb 2020

... being dishonest with SP but Biden's not shown himself to be that person.

CU was a SOB

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NJCher

(43,518 posts)
36. try to put a little less effort into your post
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 05:23 AM
Feb 2020

maybe you could just do one long acronym or initialism.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

uponit7771

(93,532 posts)
37. Yeah, you get the point ... not a good move for Sanders
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 05:25 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
9. Yeah you 'cluch' all you want because you got no defense of this. You like this. This is a place
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 12:44 AM
Feb 2020

for Democrats and their establishment.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

the berner

(8 posts)
10. I need no defense of this
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 12:57 AM
Feb 2020

I support Bernie. Is that a crime now?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided

Response to the berner (Reply #10)

 

the berner

(8 posts)
14. ok have a good night
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 01:06 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Skittles

(172,850 posts)
20. they're so freaking obvious now
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 01:32 AM
Feb 2020

WTF

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Paka

(2,760 posts)
21. Here it is.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 02:19 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

wisteria

(19,581 posts)
25. If you cannot see the significance of this, you are no Democrat.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 02:48 AM
Feb 2020

This is serious.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

uponit7771

(93,532 posts)
6. What is he thinking !??!
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 12:40 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Deero

(86 posts)
8. When it becomes more and more clear
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 12:41 AM
Feb 2020

That a candidate is going to need to get the support of super-delegates to reach a majority at the convention, why does it seem like a good idea to write a tweet about them like this?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

k2qb3

(374 posts)
11. Do you understand why Trump happened?
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 12:58 AM
Feb 2020

I mean the whole arc of his campaign? How he captured the nomination and then the presidency by presenting himself as something other than? I don't think he's equating the two.

This is actually a smart play from Sanders.

Who's going to fail to vote against Trump over this? Nobody.

There's a massive disenfranchised vote out there.

The middle isn't in the middle, it's equidistant and all over the map.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

StevieM

(10,583 posts)
15. No matter what people want to claim, Trump happened because of James Comey.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 01:10 AM
Feb 2020

He dominated that election from start to finish.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BigmanPigman

(55,522 posts)
23. Bingo!
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 02:45 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NJCher

(43,518 posts)
34. that's ridiculous
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 03:53 AM
Feb 2020

repeat: There's a massive disenfranchised vote out there.

They want to see the "establishment" toppled.

That is why they voted for Trump. Trump takes jabs at the institutions but he doesn't improve them.

Bernie will improve them.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

wisteria

(19,581 posts)
30. People don't want Bernie's Revolution
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 02:53 AM
Feb 2020

And, if he doesn’t like the party he is running to represent, he should not be it’s candidate.
Let him run as an Independent.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

kellytore

(263 posts)
13. Bernie has not changed. He has always been an opportunist.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 01:04 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(320,550 posts)
17. not shocking to me..
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 01:17 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
40. I think he wants to be president in the worst way.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 09:16 AM
Feb 2020

And I don’t mean that as an expression of speech either.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

SunSeeker

(58,374 posts)
18. Yup. Bernie appears to have violated the pledge that allowed him to run in our primary.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 01:20 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

EveHammond13

(2,855 posts)
29. this should be an OP
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 02:51 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

MontanaMama

(24,751 posts)
19. +!
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 01:25 AM
Feb 2020

Get BS the fuck out. This is ridiculous hubris.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

RandySF

(86,193 posts)
22. Doesn't matter
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 02:26 AM
Feb 2020

All we can do at that point is to save our House majority.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

wisteria

(19,581 posts)
24. It is shocking, and angers me.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 02:46 AM
Feb 2020

If he doesn’t explain this and apologize for the impression it leaves, he should not be a candidate in the Democrat Party.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Ellen Forradalom

(16,187 posts)
31. Agreed. Is he out or in?
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 02:56 AM
Feb 2020

Make up your mind, Bernie.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Warpy

(114,667 posts)
32. He didn't actually say they were
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 03:01 AM
Feb 2020

The Orange Blob was a monkey wrench into their entrenched party structure.

Sanders sees himself as a Molotov cocktail into ours.

When you look at the party over the last 40 years (and more), you notice the leadership took a definite jump to the right. While they weren't as crazy as the GOP at any stage of the game, they did make themselves far less attractive to most people. They also started and followed the insane policy of supporting candidates in the safer districts instead of backing people who might have had a shot at unseating some of the real crazies, had they enjoyed support.

Don't forget, Koch money was funding the conservative wing of the party.

Personally, I find this year's run a bit excessive, 2016 saw most of his policies adopted. I doubt Warren would have much of a chance had he not blazed that lefty trail. Also, Klobuchar isn't nearly as conservative as she comes across, her voting record is quite impressive.

Bottom line, don't waste your time on misreading tweets and hating candidates over them. It's self defeating.

Quote them as accurately as possible and remember, we're in for a wild ride of hacked accounts and Deep Fake videos this time. Putin will be up to his usual tricks and Farcebook wiill be chockablock full of deceptive bullshit.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

honest.abe

(9,238 posts)
38. Agreed. However I wonder what compelled him to write that.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 06:11 AM
Feb 2020

Hes been doing well in most all the polling lately and appeared to be headed towards having a good shot at winning the nomination. He must have known it would unleash a shit storm. Why now when it seems things are going so well for him?

I’m thinking he must see some problems ahead and that he may have peaked and can’t get over that 30% barrier and needs to shake things up again. Unwittingly he may have woken the bear.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

kcr

(15,522 posts)
41. That he still tweets shit like that after the news of Russian involvment broke
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 09:50 AM
Feb 2020

He either has spectacularly bad judgment or...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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