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appalachiablue

(41,118 posts)
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 04:17 AM Feb 2020

"We Have To Deny The Elderly Care Or 'Go Bankrupt," Bloomberg's Health Care Stance, New VIDEO

Feb. 21, Daily Kos. A video has resurfaced showing Michael Bloomberg discussing healthcare costs in what looks like somebody’s living room. In the clip, Bloomberg is explaining that healthcare costs are so high that we are looking at bankrupting our country. There are some tough decision to be made, according to Bloomberg, one of which is denying care to the elderly.

MICHAEL BLOOMBERG: If you’re bleeding we have to stop the bleeding. If you need an X-ray, you’ll have to wait. All of these costs keep going up. Nobody wants to pay any more money, and at the rate we are going, healthcare is going to bankrupt us. So not only do we have a problem, so we gotta sit here and say which things we’re gonna do, and which things we’re not. Nobody wants to do that. [...]

If you show up with prostate cancer, you’re 95 years old. We should say “Go and enjoy, have a nice one, you’ve lived a long life. There’s no cure. We can’t do anything.” A young person we should do something about. Society is not willing to do that yet. So we’re gonna go bankrupt...

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/2/21/1920987/-New-video-shows-Bloomberg-s-stance-on-health-care-We-have-to-deny-the-elderly-care-or-go-bankrupt?utm_campaign=trending

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=2ljebC5K3Jc&feature=emb_logo

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"We Have To Deny The Elderly Care Or 'Go Bankrupt," Bloomberg's Health Care Stance, New VIDEO (Original Post) appalachiablue Feb 2020 OP
He's like the opposite of Trump. Trump can't stop lying and OnDoutside Feb 2020 #1
Plenty of developed nations have universal, affordable health care appalachiablue Feb 2020 #2
There aren't many where there isnt a commensurate increase in OnDoutside Feb 2020 #3
And the horse he rode in on Sherman A1 Feb 2020 #4
This has been posted before and as pointed out by others OKNancy Feb 2020 #5
Thank you! xmas74 Feb 2020 #6
This life and death subject isn't limited to 94 yo men appalachiablue Feb 2020 #7
Please. do not spread misinformation about prostate cancer treatment delisen Feb 2020 #9
Fake news on the video. You are spreading a false quote delisen Feb 2020 #8
The only thing bankrupting our country is the price gouging democratisphere Feb 2020 #10
Read up on the UK's National Institute for Health and Care Excellence (NICE) Hoyt Feb 2020 #11
 

OnDoutside

(19,952 posts)
1. He's like the opposite of Trump. Trump can't stop lying and
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 04:23 AM
Feb 2020

Bloomberg can't stop telling the reality of life. Neither of them are edifying.

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appalachiablue

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2. Plenty of developed nations have universal, affordable health care
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 04:31 AM
Feb 2020

and seniors aren't driving them into bankruptcy. Bloomberg typifies the disturbing, libertarian garbage coming from some vacant elites.

What's next, only people with strong incomes, the right occupation, race or whatever will be allowed healthcare?

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OnDoutside

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3. There aren't many where there isnt a commensurate increase in
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 05:04 AM
Feb 2020

taxes, and tax increases is what gets you voted out, in the US. It's completely the wrong attitude but it's ingrained in the American psyche, unfortunately.

To Bloombergs point about the 95 year old, that's happening everywhere. They treat them with antibiotics in hospital, and if it doesn't clear, they do seem to let nature take its course.

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Sherman A1

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4. And the horse he rode in on
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 06:11 AM
Feb 2020
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OKNancy

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5. This has been posted before and as pointed out by others
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 06:53 AM
Feb 2020

Prostate cancer in the very old is rarely treated. It is slow growing and many men of advanced age have prostate cancer without even knowing it (as has been show on autopsies)
I'm not voting for him, but this is another example of a headline not actually reflecting what was said or the gist of what was said.

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xmas74

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6. Thank you!
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 07:09 AM
Feb 2020

If anything this should open up a nationwide conversation on when it's time to let go. Americans are afraid of death and would rather push every intervention, thinking only of the quantity of life and not quality. At 95 intervening would greatly diminish the quality-and possibly the quantity, considering the treatment in this case could kill faster then the illness.

I believe Americans have a problem with understanding death with dignity. In the case of the 95 year old the conversation should lead to a talk about death with dignity and how that can be accomplished.

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appalachiablue

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7. This life and death subject isn't limited to 94 yo men
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 07:12 AM
Feb 2020

with prostate cancer, be serious. It's targeting one specific group, the elderly and laying the groundwork for discrimination and rejection of others also need.

What other 'criteria' for health care would people have to meet if determined by heartless business hacks and ultra wealthy financiers like Bloomberg?

Mike is not delivering his spiel to the group because it's 'already the norm' or an insignificant matter. They aren't novices and he knows what he's saying is highly controversial. Pfft

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delisen

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9. Please. do not spread misinformation about prostate cancer treatment
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 07:40 AM
Feb 2020

Information about best practices is available on the internet on reputable sites.

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delisen

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8. Fake news on the video. You are spreading a false quote
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 07:15 AM
Feb 2020

Repeating and spreading a lie about what someone said is just wrong and hurts older patients.
Bloomberg said prostate cancer which is appropri ately treated in older men with watchful waiting because most will die of some other condition and interventions can be worse than just monitoring

As for stopping bleeding and not doing xrays-this is exactly the treatment i have gotten for both a knee injury and a foot injury- my physician acted according to protocol in not ordering unnecessary tests.

If you listen to what you have reposted from Finkelstein's tweet you will hear how he misquoted.

I hope you will do the right thing and retract your post.

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democratisphere

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10. The only thing bankrupting our country is the price gouging
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 07:49 AM
Feb 2020

from everyone associated with the criminal American healthcare system. Bloomberg needs to put his billions behind Joe Biden and move on.

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Hoyt

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11. Read up on the UK's National Institute for Health and Care Excellence (NICE)
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 09:09 AM
Feb 2020

We'll have to do the same whatever health system we pursue. It's the only way to be viable.

Besides, Bloomberg is talking about Prostate cancer in a 95-year-old man. Heroic treatment -- ie, butchering or frying him with chemicals or radiation -- isn't usually warranted.

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