The Establishment Is Getting Nervous!

[Donkees]

Feb 21, 2020

[democratisphere]

1. What a bunch of BS nonsense.

[we can do it]

2. Russians love BS for a reason.

[Deb]

3. Antiestablishmentarianism way back machine. Totally groovy man.

[MontanaFarmer]

4. With a side of Russian assistance thrown in.

Time for OurRevolution to reveal their donor list, in light of the recent reporting.

[oasis]

5. "Establishment Democrats" aren't that good at explaining "revolution". So, yes.

Kiss those purple states goodbye.

[Alhena]

6. He has a lot of attractive personal qualities, but it won't be enough after Trump spends months

talking about "why did Bernie serve as an elector for a party which supported the taking of the Iran hostages, why did Bernie spend his honeymoon in Moscow, why did Bernie visit Nicaragua, why does Bernie want to take away the health insurance you're pleased with?"

He's by far the most radical candidate nominated by the Democratic Party in my lifetime, and a time when the US economy is on fire is not the time to nominate such a candidate.

[JustAnotherGen]

7. Not really

I'm not seeing it.

If he wins the nomination, then loses - this was the last Presidential election of my lifetime.

[bucolic_frolic]

8. Bernie campaign has reached its high point already, now headed downhill

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Aided by dictators to weaken the Democratic Party, the best opponent to allow Trump to win ... the laundry will be epic, let's get it over with now rather than under 4 more years of Trump.

Bernie is on the decline!

[madville]

17. Many were saying Bernie peaked at 20% six months ago

And now he's at 30 and is the clear front runner, this is going to get crazy....

[bucolic_frolic]

18. Sanders will underperform by 2-3%

if the Russia news this week bites this today. It could also take another week but will be 4-5% downside by that time. I"m not talking about polls here, there are so many polls you can get a poll to say anything you want just ask a friendly pollster. Bugs Bunny could poll well if you find the right statistician. I'm thinking actual primary results. And yes it will be crazy

[madville]

20. Most Bernie supporters are going to ignore the Russia news

It is already being framed as an attack on Bernie by the "establishment" and his supporters will run with that. It's a good strategy on the Sanders campaign's end, campaigning from his anti-establishment revolution platform. They have also successfully framed the mainstream media as working against him so much of this Russia news will be dismissed.

[Walleye]

9. Exactly what is the Establishment?

[Hav]

30. I think it's code for Democrats

who don't want to burn everything down and who aren't socialists.
The kind of Dems that worked to get Obamacare through Congress or who got Trump impeached. In other words, Dems who achieve something in contrast to some career politicians who just yell at clowds but can't get anything done.

[SilasSouleII]

41. Bingo!!

Exactly this.

[BigBearJohn]

10. Any attack of Bernie can't compare to the 1000s of attacks that will be levied at the putrid Trump

FOR EXAMPLE:

[jmg257]

15. Yes - lets go with that. It worked so well last time.

[Butterflylady]

35. Really,

Oh you got the wrong way.

[BeyondGeography]

11. The future is certain, give us time to work it out

[Walleye]

12. Most Democrats I talk with are more depressed than nervous.

[brutus smith]

13. Absolutely!

[bucolic_frolic]

14. Is Bernie angry, loud, and hard of hearing today?

Why does he lean forward and shout into the mic all the time? He hasn't reworked his stump speech in 6 years. One tired mess!

[NurseJackie]

16. But Russia is giddy.

#BernieKnew
#RussianInterference

[Botany]

19. You go Bernie! Shake up them corporate democrats!

And be the nominee and lose 45 states, the house, and the senate too.

And Putin will be happy.

[MrsCoffee]

21. Getting more full of himself everyday.

[brutus smith]

22. It sure seems suspicious that the info about Bernie and russia comes out the day before the caucuses

[bluedye33139]

23. Did the Intel briefing take place months or years before the news was released?

Or did intelligence report in a timely manner on its findings last week, and details of it were discussed within days?

I find it really hard to believe a conspiracy theory about this. It is a fact that intelligence briefed senators last week. Reporters covered that story. I don't think a conspiracy theory is necessary to explain the timing of that.

[brutus smith]

31. Let's let the voters decide.

[bluedye33139]

32. Of course. But do we need a conspiracy theory to account for the timing?

Do you actually believe that a cabal of evildoers timed this?

[Bonobo]

24. But people here say there is no such thing as the Establishment...

The HILARIOUS thing is that they are the SAME people that have zero problem believing that Putin has the Rasputin-like powers to bend the minds of Americans by the millions.

[SidDithers]

25. ...

Sid

[jmg257]

29. Serious question - who is in this Establishment?

[DanTex]

37. James Carville, who called Bernie a "communist", for one.

[jmg257]

39. Yep - I just found this, one of quite a few articles about the Establishment, that actually name...

The Democratic establishment is out of time

We know which side the Democratic National Committee, the party's leadership in Congress, wealthy mega-donors, and luminaries like the Obamas and the Clintons are on.

https://theweek.com/articles/895380/democratic-establishment-time

[Butterflylady]

36. Oh that is funny

Where did you buy those blinders?

[Submariner]

26. Bernie lied to us and he needs to end his campaign and go home

This 2nd heart attack waiting to happen knew a full month ago about Russia helping his campaign, and he hid that info from us.

At least now I know where he’s getting money and why he is ahead in many polls. Russia knows trump will crush Bernie so all the Bernie numbers are fudged.

[jalan48]

27. I'm sure the health insurance industry is getting nervous.

[Chemisse]

28. A rebel with a cause - himself.

This 'everyone is out to get me' BS is crap, designed to shore up the cultlike following of young people who yearn to change the world.

He really is similar to Trump.

[Demsrule86]

33. You bet the idea of Sanders as our nominee when he surely will lose a General and most likely the

house doesn't just make one just nervous but terrified. Consider Trump with four more years and owning the entire government. Vote blue no matter who, but please folks pick a candidate who can beat Trump...Sanders is not the one who can do that.

[zentrum]

34. Bernie has won already.

His influence on the party has already helped. It's moved the center more left.

[jmg257]

38. Finally I found some info on just whom/what "the Democratic Establishment" is...

I mean I read about it all the time now, but exactly who or what it is???

The Democratic establishment is out of time

the Democratic primary electorate is divided into only two parts. Bernie Sanders's victory in Tuesday's New Hampshire primary reminded observers of what we have known for a long time, namely that the smaller of these two parts remains united in favor of his candidacy for the Democratic presidential nomination. The larger moderate one remains split, not quite evenly, between Pete Buttigieg, Amy Klobuchar, Elizabeth Warren, and Joe Biden.

We know which side the Democratic National Committee, the party's leadership in Congress, wealthy mega-donors, and luminaries like the Obamas and the Clintons are on. We also know that they are willing to do pretty much anything to prevent Sanders from winning the nomination in 2020. The question is whether they will be able to.
...

A large number of Americans want to be told that while the mean orange man in the White House is an evil fascist demagogue, the vast increases in the size of their investment portfolios under his administration and the generous health care plans they have been given by their employers and their debt-free college educations are things to which they are entitled because they worked hard. They don't want a revolution; they want more of the same, but without the mean tweets and with the approval of their neighbors. This is what the Democratic party establishment would like to offer them in November 2020.

https://theweek.com/articles/895380/democratic-establishment-time

[Uncle Joe]

40. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread Donkees.