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Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 10:12 AM Feb 2020

"Russia's number one priority is to sow dissent within the Dem Party and fracture the Dem coalition"

Sam Seder ✔@SamSeder

Short thread. Good point.

Lindsay Beyerstein @beyerstein

Bernie did volunteer last week that some of the negativity in his campaign might might be bots, rather than real supporters.

What if that's the substance of what he was told/allowed to tell by the IC?

Bernie did volunteer last week that some of the negativity in his campaign might might be bots, rather than real supporters.

What if that's the substance of what he was told/allowed to tell by the IC?

It might be difficult to tell what Russia's intent is. Are negative bots attacking Bernie's opponents helping or hurting Bernie? You could argue either way.

I believe that Russia's number one priority is to sow dissent within the Democratic Party and fracture the Democratic coalition, and any rooting interest in the winner is secondary at best.

If that's the goal, then Bernie's as much a victim as a beneficiary of Russia's scheme. It seems unfair to demand that he come forward when he's being maligned as the beneficiary of Russian aid.


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"Russia's number one priority is to sow dissent within the Dem Party and fracture the Dem coalition" (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Feb 2020 OP
Its now russia's Putin , trump and the GOP duforsure Feb 2020 #1
It was happening in 2016 Renew Deal Feb 2020 #4
The goal is to play dumb and look the other way since it benefits you Renew Deal Feb 2020 #2
They seem to have the same priorities. MrsCoffee Feb 2020 #3
Russia wins! Dennis Donovan Feb 2020 #9
Maybe Sanders should change strategy. MrsCoffee Feb 2020 #11
I would say bots - or anyone - who attacks other candidates in Bernie's name, jmg257 Feb 2020 #5
Nina Turner, David Sirota, and Briahna Joy Gray also attack Sanders's opponents. W_HAMILTON Feb 2020 #6
Their Job 1 is to attack the Democratic Party dalton99a Feb 2020 #14
It does not help when a . . . Iliyah Feb 2020 #7
+1,000,000 highplainsdem Feb 2020 #12
And make sure Sanders is the nominee as he will lose the general. Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #8
Bernie should stop attacking what he calls "the democratic establishment" boston bean Feb 2020 #10
Russia's number 1 priority is to elevate Russian interests Fresh_Start Feb 2020 #13
And Mr Sanders is the perfect vehicle by which they can achieve their means. apcalc Feb 2020 #15
Yep, Russia wins ⬆ Dennis Donovan Feb 2020 #16
 

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
1. Its now russia's Putin , trump and the GOP
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 10:16 AM
Feb 2020

Conspiring together to accomplish this against the Democrats, using division, and other tactics to split the votes with. They'll done this numerous times before .

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Renew Deal

(81,858 posts)
4. It was happening in 2016
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 10:18 AM
Feb 2020

Remember the leaks just before the convention?

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Renew Deal

(81,858 posts)
2. The goal is to play dumb and look the other way since it benefits you
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 10:16 AM
Feb 2020

That’s what Trump did in 2016. We will always be subservient to the russians if they can choose their own candidates.

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Undecided
 

MrsCoffee

(5,801 posts)
3. They seem to have the same priorities.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 10:17 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MrsCoffee

(5,801 posts)
11. Maybe Sanders should change strategy.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 10:22 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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jmg257

(11,996 posts)
5. I would say bots - or anyone - who attacks other candidates in Bernie's name,
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 10:19 AM
Feb 2020

is NOT helping Bernie's cause.

Not the way these "maybe" bots were/are doing what they did to the Culinary, for example.

In other words, I do not consider such attacks to be helping Bernie

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W_HAMILTON

(7,864 posts)
6. Nina Turner, David Sirota, and Briahna Joy Gray also attack Sanders's opponents.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 10:19 AM
Feb 2020

Are we to believe that they do so to HURT Sanders's campaign?

I mean, these people must think we all are fucking idiots or something.

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dalton99a

(81,485 posts)
14. Their Job 1 is to attack the Democratic Party
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 10:39 AM
Feb 2020

and then go home and vote for the Green Party - as they did in 2016




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Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
7. It does not help when a . . .
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 10:20 AM
Feb 2020

when a candidate spews venom on the Democratic Establishment better know as the Democratic Party.

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Demsrule86

(68,565 posts)
8. And make sure Sanders is the nominee as he will lose the general.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 10:20 AM
Feb 2020
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boston bean

(36,221 posts)
10. Bernie should stop attacking what he calls "the democratic establishment"
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 10:21 AM
Feb 2020

He could do his part.

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Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
13. Russia's number 1 priority is to elevate Russian interests
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 10:30 AM
Feb 2020

which is aided by diminishing American power and influence.
Russia wants fossil fuels to remain king
Russia doesn't want effective climate change regulations which impair its ability to market fossil fuels
Russia doesn't want a strong western alliance.

if Russia and the GOP want Bernie to win, then Bernie winning is bad for America and good for Russia, period, end of story.

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apcalc

(4,465 posts)
15. And Mr Sanders is the perfect vehicle by which they can achieve their means.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 10:55 AM
Feb 2020

He attacks the party from the left.

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Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
16. Yep, Russia wins ⬆
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 10:57 AM
Feb 2020

n/t

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