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DanTex

(20,709 posts)
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 01:55 PM Feb 2020

Has there ever been an "outrage-du-jour" that actually hurt Bernie's numbers?

Because anti-Bernie people on twitter must be getting some serious RSI from all their faux-outraged keyboard pounding. There was the Joe Rogan outrage, and the Bernie Bros outrage, and the "woman won't win" outrage, etc...

And now we've got the Russia outrage and the "establishment" outrage in the last 24 hours. And yet Bernie's climbed three points in the betting markets over the same time period.

Have any of the anti-Bernie outrage-du-jours every actually hurt him in polls or in any way? Is there any evidence that people beyond anti-Bernie twitter actually care about any of it?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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Has there ever been an "outrage-du-jour" that actually hurt Bernie's numbers? (Original Post) DanTex Feb 2020 OP
Bernie's support is locked in and madville Feb 2020 #1
Do you understand how bookmakers and betting odds work? George II Feb 2020 #2
Yes. Actually I'm talking about markets, not bookies, but I understand how both work. DanTex Feb 2020 #3
We'll all see how markets work if & when Sanders becomes the Dem nominee. oldsoftie Feb 2020 #9
Is RSI repetive strain injury? Urban Dictionary isn't helping. The irisblue Feb 2020 #4
Yes. DanTex Feb 2020 #5
Thx, pretty sure it wasn't the respiratory therapy meaning. 🤨 irisblue Feb 2020 #7
Considering he drastically underperformed his polls in both IA and NH.. CalFione Feb 2020 #6
LOL. If only Bernie could manage a strong third-place, then he'd have a chance! DanTex Feb 2020 #8
The fact that late movers drastically move away from him is CalFione Feb 2020 #11
Bernie's going after some of the 90+million eligible voters who didn't vote in 2016. It's a jalan48 Feb 2020 #10
In NH, Bernie came in third among first-time voters CalFione Feb 2020 #12
This is about his recent "Democratic Establishment" comments. nt jalan48 Feb 2020 #13
Hasn't he always claimed to be doing this? And have they ever shown up? Squinch Feb 2020 #15
I think his recent establishment statement was an outreach to these voters. jalan48 Feb 2020 #17
And will likely have the opposite effect on many self-described Democrats ehrnst Feb 2020 #18
If so, it's a really, really dumb way to "outreach." Squinch Feb 2020 #19
Not really. My guess is that he's appealing to non-voters who want change and who see Centrist jalan48 Feb 2020 #21
Yes. He lost to Hillary in '16. Most congressional candidates he endorsed in '18 lost. beastie boy Feb 2020 #14
The tastiest tears are also the saltiest. Bonobo Feb 2020 #16
Does 2018 count as an "outrage du jour?" Because almost no one he or Squinch Feb 2020 #20
 

madville

(7,408 posts)
1. Bernie's support is locked in and
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 01:57 PM
Feb 2020

Bloomberg is only weakening the positions of everyone to Bernie's right.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
2. Do you understand how bookmakers and betting odds work?
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 01:57 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
3. Yes. Actually I'm talking about markets, not bookies, but I understand how both work.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 01:58 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

oldsoftie

(12,531 posts)
9. We'll all see how markets work if & when Sanders becomes the Dem nominee.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 02:09 PM
Feb 2020

Or if it looks like he beats trump.
I'll give you a hint: SELL.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

irisblue

(32,967 posts)
4. Is RSI repetive strain injury? Urban Dictionary isn't helping. The
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 01:58 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

irisblue

(32,967 posts)
7. Thx, pretty sure it wasn't the respiratory therapy meaning. 🤨
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 02:06 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

CalFione

(571 posts)
6. Considering he drastically underperformed his polls in both IA and NH..
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 02:05 PM
Feb 2020

...I would say yes.

The last polls in Iowa had him at 29 and his nearest competitor at 24. +5.

It ended 26-26.


In New Hampshire, his final polls had him up 30-23. +7.

It ended up 26-25.


So yes, when people actually vote... he underperforms his pre-vote polls.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
8. LOL. If only Bernie could manage a strong third-place, then he'd have a chance!
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 02:07 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

CalFione

(571 posts)
11. The fact that late movers drastically move away from him is
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 02:18 PM
Feb 2020

negative momentum.

The opposite of a movement.


Undecideds flock away from him when forced to choose. Bad sign for November.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

jalan48

(13,859 posts)
10. Bernie's going after some of the 90+million eligible voters who didn't vote in 2016. It's a
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 02:10 PM
Feb 2020

brilliant strategy.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

CalFione

(571 posts)
12. In NH, Bernie came in third among first-time voters
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 02:19 PM
Feb 2020

He isn’t bringing new voters into the mix.

He just has a dedicated base of frequent voters that is less than 30% of the Party.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

jalan48

(13,859 posts)
13. This is about his recent "Democratic Establishment" comments. nt
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 02:24 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Squinch

(50,949 posts)
15. Hasn't he always claimed to be doing this? And have they ever shown up?
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 02:35 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

jalan48

(13,859 posts)
17. I think his recent establishment statement was an outreach to these voters.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 02:59 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
18. And will likely have the opposite effect on many self-described Democrats
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 08:47 PM
Feb 2020

Perhaps it's a hail mary, thinking that he won't get the self-described Democrats?

I just have to wonder what he was thinking when he sent that tweet...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Squinch

(50,949 posts)
19. If so, it's a really, really dumb way to "outreach."
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 08:52 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

jalan48

(13,859 posts)
21. Not really. My guess is that he's appealing to non-voters who want change and who see Centrist
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 09:16 PM
Feb 2020

Democrats as too invested in the status quo.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

beastie boy

(9,308 posts)
14. Yes. He lost to Hillary in '16. Most congressional candidates he endorsed in '18 lost.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 02:25 PM
Feb 2020

His approval plummeted in March '19 when he announced he is filing as an Independent in the '24 race.

And it wasn't so much about anti-Bernie people pounding their keyboards. It was Bernie.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Bonobo

(29,257 posts)
16. The tastiest tears are also the saltiest.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 02:45 PM
Feb 2020


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Squinch

(50,949 posts)
20. Does 2018 count as an "outrage du jour?" Because almost no one he or
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 08:55 PM
Feb 2020

Our Revolution supported got elected in 2018.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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