OK, I will grant that Sanders has just helped me in an argument today

[Recursion]

A very business-y guy I know is freaking the fuck out because Sanders's platform includes diluting shares in companies and giving the result to labor, to the tune of 20%. This is actually a kind of cool idea, but in fact it is literally "socialism" like "not even a way to pretend otherwise" socialism, and he's freaking out because he hates Trump and wants him to lose but doesn't want this to be the result.

I kind of shrugged and said "guess you guys should have worked a little harder to keep Trump out of the White House. Was the 2017 tax cut worth losing 20% of your shares?"

He's not happy but he concedes the point.

[Garrett78]

1. It's a very cool idea. It's past time for workers to have power.

[George II]

2. The government can't "seize" shares and give them away. Does Sanders realize that most....

....big companies already give shares to their employees? I haven't worked for Honeywell for more than 25 years, but I have 1,000 shares of their stock now worth $179,000! I paid ZERO for them.

For almost 20 years I worked for an "ESOP" (Employee Stock Ownership Plan) - ALL shares in the company were owned by employees.

Inasmuch as he's never worked outside of government he probably wouldn't realize that.

[Recursion]

3. I mean, sure it can

That's the easiest thing in the world.

[George II]

4. On what basis?

[Recursion]

5. Doesn't really matter?

The power to tax is pretty impressive when you get right down to it.

[TomSlick]

6. Yes, it matters. It's unconstitutional.

Amendment V:

".... nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation."

[ecstatic]

7. If he gets the nom, the only way forward is to say

that Bernie's ideas will never happen, otherwise we'll lose.