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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
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I'm all in for Joe (Original Post) vercetti2021 Feb 2020 OP
me too... Satch59 Feb 2020 #1
I understand the appeal of "calm" vs. "change." David__77 Feb 2020 #2
I was big for Bernie in 2016 vercetti2021 Feb 2020 #3
"just a divisive as Trump" Duppers Feb 2020 #29
"Free" has broad appeal. HarlanPepper Feb 2020 #19
Just got back from the caucus. WinstonSmith4740 Feb 2020 #35
Preaching to the choir. muntrv Feb 2020 #4
You know what? PETRUS Feb 2020 #5
Me too. I am out if he doesn't get this. wisteria Feb 2020 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar Feb 2020 #7
I voted in the midterm elections in 1970. murielm99 Feb 2020 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar Feb 2020 #13
I do not think you will be the only one. emmaverybo Feb 2020 #27
Joe will be welcomed with embraces and relief by the World Democratic Establishment. NBachers Feb 2020 #8
Joe is better than Bloomberg. I'll give you that. aikoaiko Feb 2020 #9
Good luck to your candidate. totodeinhere Feb 2020 #10
So far he is doing better in Nevada with AA voters than Bernie. emmaverybo Feb 2020 #28
Think Biden will be in 2nd place in NV, we will take this and go forward. FloridaBlues Feb 2020 #31
Hey, you're back again! cwydro Feb 2020 #12
Just posting this vercetti2021 Feb 2020 #16
Understand. cwydro Feb 2020 #23
Don't blame you vercetti2021 Feb 2020 #24
Yep. cwydro Feb 2020 #33
Worse vercetti2021 Feb 2020 #34
As Bernie would put it, "Sanders will get 100% of the 25% that he already has. world wide wally Feb 2020 #14
Is no one out there MOMFUDSKI Feb 2020 #15
Sick and tired of you Bernie supporters kellytore Feb 2020 #18
VOTE BLUE MOMFUDSKI Feb 2020 #22
you are trying way too hard Skittles Feb 2020 #26
don't do that Skittles Feb 2020 #25
That may be true but will Sanders win in the main election or do we again get Trump. katmondoo Feb 2020 #32
that fear is very real Skittles Feb 2020 #36
Here are just a few of the crumbs the democrats have thrown at us in the past 30 years. kellytore Feb 2020 #20
A few more crumbs kellytore Feb 2020 #21
"The enemy of my enemy is my friend!" LaMouffette Feb 2020 #17
I will MOMFUDSKI Feb 2020 #30
 

Satch59

(1,353 posts)
1. me too...
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 04:18 PM
Feb 2020

I'm at a lost for what makes Bernie so desirable?? He turned me off in '16 and even more now. I'm done with the angry yelling of his same old talking points and it so scares me that he can't beat Trump. Now with his campaign knowing about the Russia help a month ago and not saying anything is even more troubling. We don't need a total change of every way of american life right now, we need to calm this disaster of Trump and get back on Track. Sanders is not the right candidate in my opinion...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

David__77

(23,372 posts)
2. I understand the appeal of "calm" vs. "change."
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 04:24 PM
Feb 2020

...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

vercetti2021

(10,156 posts)
3. I was big for Bernie in 2016
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 04:26 PM
Feb 2020

Amazing how much can change in just four years. But after the past couple of months and everything is coming out of the last couple days I'm just so done with Sanders. He's just a divisive as Trump is.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Duppers

(28,120 posts)
29. "just a divisive as Trump"
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 07:01 PM
Feb 2020

I'm now agreeing. I've supported Joe in this race but haven't hated Bernie. That's changed.

We're fighting for the survival of our democracy and Bernie hasn't a snowball's chance against ending-democracy tRump.

Bernie CANNOT be our candidate.


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

HarlanPepper

(2,042 posts)
19. "Free" has broad appeal.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 06:47 PM
Feb 2020

Never mind pesky little details about how senate super majorities work. Yeah

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

WinstonSmith4740

(3,056 posts)
35. Just got back from the caucus.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 07:37 PM
Feb 2020

I'm at a loss, too. Got one of his caucusers to admit that taxes would go up on income over $29,000, so the claim of taxing "millionaires & bilionaires" is about as valid as Mexico paying for the wall. I think I'm like vast majority of folks here...I'm voting Blue. I just don't think Bernie can beat Trump, and I'm not sure I could handle having to listen to my least favorite college professor rant for 4 years because there's no way he'll be able to get anything passed. Which was another thing my friend today couldn't answer...just how is he going to get the necessary votes on these huge increases?

I really think we need to start concentrating on holding onto the House and getting control of the Senate. Even if Trump wins, he'll be toothless without Mitch letting him do whatever he wants. Might even be able to get him out of there. But I'm sorry, I just don't think Sanders can beat him. The Trump campaign will photo shop him into a picture of the old commissars, show old newsreel footage of breadlines, old ladies sweeping streets, and generally miserable living conditions. They'll show pictures of him and Castro. They'll talk about him honeymooning in Russia. They'll call him a communist and he can protest all he wants, it won't matter. He can talk about socialism around the world, it won't matter. He can talk about the successful socialist programs we have in this country, it won't matter. They'll literally make shit up, we'll prove it's a lie, and it won't matter.

If Bernie gets the nomination, I hope to hell I'm wrong. I've never wanted to be wrong about anything this much in my life. But I've seen too many decent men get blown out by crooks, criminals, and those who thought only of themselves...McGovern, Carter, Mondale, and Dukakis come to mind. And, of course, Hillary.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

muntrv

(14,505 posts)
4. Preaching to the choir.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 04:43 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

PETRUS

(3,678 posts)
5. You know what?
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 04:50 PM
Feb 2020

I'd be happy to vote for Joe. Personally, I'd put myself in the Sanders/Warren camp, but Joe's a good candidate. He has lots of experience, and is well suited to compete in critical battleground states.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

wisteria

(19,581 posts)
6. Me too. I am out if he doesn't get this.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 05:20 PM
Feb 2020

If our party becomes the Sanders party, I will become an Independent. I don’t think the Democrats will represent my interests any longer.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to wisteria (Reply #6)

 

murielm99

(30,736 posts)
11. I voted in the midterm elections in 1970.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 06:01 PM
Feb 2020

Then for McGovern in 1972. I worked for him, but I knew he would lose.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to murielm99 (Reply #11)

 

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
27. I do not think you will be the only one.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 06:57 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NBachers

(17,108 posts)
8. Joe will be welcomed with embraces and relief by the World Democratic Establishment.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 05:43 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

aikoaiko

(34,169 posts)
9. Joe is better than Bloomberg. I'll give you that.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 05:46 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
10. Good luck to your candidate.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 05:48 PM
Feb 2020

Early signs in Nevada are not good. And there are signs he has lost some support among African American voters in South Carolina.

Myself, I love Joe Biden. He has served our country long and well. But things are not going well for him right now.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
28. So far he is doing better in Nevada with AA voters than Bernie.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 06:58 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

FloridaBlues

(4,008 posts)
31. Think Biden will be in 2nd place in NV, we will take this and go forward.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 07:13 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
12. Hey, you're back again!
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 06:14 PM
Feb 2020

That didn’t last long!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

vercetti2021

(10,156 posts)
16. Just posting this
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 06:36 PM
Feb 2020

My frustration boiled over today. But back to break

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
23. Understand.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 06:55 PM
Feb 2020

I’ll be bowing out soon too.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

vercetti2021

(10,156 posts)
24. Don't blame you
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 06:56 PM
Feb 2020

I took advice on what I can do outside the world of politics. Go back to painting and enjoying myself

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
33. Yep.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 07:33 PM
Feb 2020


Going to be getting really ugly in here soon (if not already). Sigh.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

vercetti2021

(10,156 posts)
34. Worse
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 07:37 PM
Feb 2020

If anything. Not gonna be here when the dook hits the fan

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

world wide wally

(21,742 posts)
14. As Bernie would put it, "Sanders will get 100% of the 25% that he already has.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 06:20 PM
Feb 2020

But less than 1% of everybody else. Even Democrats are going to have a hard time voting for the man who is destroying their party for his own ego.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MOMFUDSKI

(5,524 posts)
15. Is no one out there
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 06:25 PM
Feb 2020

just a little tired of being thrown crumbs by the DEMOCRATS for the last 30 years?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

kellytore

(182 posts)
18. Sick and tired of you Bernie supporters
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 06:46 PM
Feb 2020

putting down our party.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MOMFUDSKI

(5,524 posts)
22. VOTE BLUE
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 06:52 PM
Feb 2020

doesn't apply?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Skittles

(153,160 posts)
26. you are trying way too hard
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 06:56 PM
Feb 2020

both of you

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Skittles

(153,160 posts)
25. don't do that
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 06:56 PM
Feb 2020

even Bernie is better than Trump although I absolutely understand the feeling

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

katmondoo

(6,457 posts)
32. That may be true but will Sanders win in the main election or do we again get Trump.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 07:16 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Skittles

(153,160 posts)
36. that fear is very real
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 09:02 PM
Feb 2020

I cannot BELIEVE who has dropped out and who is left - Putin has to be very amused indeed.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

kellytore

(182 posts)
20. Here are just a few of the crumbs the democrats have thrown at us in the past 30 years.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 06:50 PM
Feb 2020

“Making Work Pay” tax credit
Earned Income Tax Credit increased
Increased Eligibility for Refundable Portion of Child Credit
“American Opportunity” Education Tax Credit
First-time Home Buyer Credit
Temp. Suspension of Taxation of Unemployment Benefits
Tax Credits for Energy-Efficient Improvements to Existing Homes
Sales Tax Deduction for Vehicle Purchases
Premium Credits for COBRA Continuation Coverage for Unemployed Workers
Economic Recovery Credits to Recipients of Social Security, SSI, RR Retirement, and Veterans Disability Compensation Benefits
Computers as Qualified Education Expenses in 529 Education Plans
Plug-in Electric Drive Vehicle Credit
Tax Parity for Transit Benefits
Health Coverage Tax Credit Expansion
Extension of Enhanced Small Business Expensing
5-Year Carryback of Net Operating Losses for Small Businesses
Extension of Bonus Depreciation
Exclusion of 75% of Small Business Capital Gains from Taxes
Temporary Small Business Estimated Tax Payment Relief
Temporary Reduction of S Corporation Built-In Gains Holding Period from 10 Years to 7 Years
Other Business

Advanced Energy Investment Credit
Tax Credits for Alternative Refueling Property
Work Opportunity Tax Credits for Hiring Unemployed Veterans and Disconnected Youth
Delayed Recognition of Certain Cancellation of Debt Income
Election to Accelerate Recognition of Historic AMT/R&D Credits

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

kellytore

(182 posts)
21. A few more crumbs
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 06:51 PM
Feb 2020

Women’s Rights
Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act
Protection against pay discrimination
Restores interpretation of Title VII of Civil Rights Act that protected women and other workers
Financial Rights
Credit CARD Act
Prevents retroactive rate increases
Requires companies to provide 45 days notice before changing rates and other contract provisions
Additional restrictions placed on fees
Prevents companies from taking advantage of students
Ends unfair double-cycle billing practices
Financial reform bill
Establishes Consumer Financial Protection Bureau which seeks solely to ensure financial institutions are being fair to consumers, and improvement in the simplicity in contracts
Prevents taxpayer bail out of financial institutions

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LaMouffette

(2,030 posts)
17. "The enemy of my enemy is my friend!"
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 06:41 PM
Feb 2020

Joe Biden is the "enemy of my enemy": Trumputin. (Trump and Putin are wholly inseparable now. Hence the Brangelina-esque nickname.) Bernie is NOT the friend of my enemy—far from it—but he is definitely the preferred candidate of my enemy, which makes me, unfortunately, less than happy about the prospect of Bernie being the Democratic candidate.

I love Joe and I have confidence in his decades of experience and his ability to unite the country (as much as that is possible these days) and to undo the havoc Trumputin has wreaked. But a big reason I'm for Joe is because I think he has the most crossover appeal to disenchanted Republicans who voted for Trump but who now (secretly) admit to themselves that Trumputin is, to quote Stephen King: "Crooked as a broken nose and dumb as a fencepost." We could win over some Republican voters with Joe. With Bernie, not so much.

I voted for Bernie in the 2016 primaries, and I will absolutely vote for him if he wins the nomination, but dang! I'm afraid the Trumputin MixMaster will chop him to bits.

Trumputin and Faux News are already pumping their brainwashed followers full of the message that Bernie and the Democrats want SOCIALISM and that SOCIALISTS are COMMUNISTS, and these socialist-communist liberals will not only take your guns away, but will take away all of your hard-earned money and redistribute it to the lazy, irresponsible, good-for-nothing poor people, and (horror of all horrors!) punish the wealthy for being rich, and while they're at it, truck in illegal immigrants by the caravan-full.

I live between a small city and a tiny town, and I have already seen letters to the editor in both of these small towns' newspapers from Trump supporters warning people about the "socialist threat" that Democrats pose.

Bernie would be a great president and his policies would elevate everyone in this country, so if he wins the nomination and the general election, hallelujah! But . . . what if he doesn't win?

I'm all in for Biden, too. But if he doesn't win, I will fight like hell for Bernie to win the general election (or Elizabeth or Mayor Pete).

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MOMFUDSKI

(5,524 posts)
30. I will
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 07:05 PM
Feb 2020

VOTE BLUE early and often.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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