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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

William769

(55,144 posts)
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 04:18 PM Feb 2020

I have been part of the Democratic Establishment since December 4th 1981.

If you don't like who I hang out with, you can go FUCK YOURSELF!

a Democrat will be getting my vote this primary season and despite trump, the gop and Russia. A true blue Democrat will get my vote this November.

I am proud of my party & what it stands for and will tear down anybody that gets in it's way to take down trump this November.

This is my mission plain and simple. I'm not hiding it, I'm not hiding behind anybody or anything and I definitely have not hijacked any political party that is hell bent on destroying the party I love or losing this election.

trump needs to be held accountable for his treasonous actions against America.

I look forward to our convention because I know the "Democratic Establishment" will do the right thing & put forward the right Democrat to kick trumps ass.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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I have been part of the Democratic Establishment since December 4th 1981. (Original Post) William769 Feb 2020 OP
I'm voting blue no matter who. Turin_C3PO Feb 2020 #1
Same here! ananda Feb 2020 #37
What the Fuck is the democratic establishment? erlewyne Feb 2020 #38
Same here democrattotheend Feb 2020 #48
I have been a proud member since 1974. redstatebluegirl Feb 2020 #2
'71 mcGovern apcalc Feb 2020 #3
Me too, although Mr.Bill Feb 2020 #32
I worked his campaign with my mom. redstatebluegirl Feb 2020 #47
Same here William, except I have been since mid seventies. Respect your elders still_one Feb 2020 #4
... William769 Feb 2020 #6
I was just at the Bernie supporter age of about 18 and in California sitting in gaslines when krissey Feb 2020 #9
+++ still_one Feb 2020 #40
Very similar experience CarlSpackler Feb 2020 #44
Right. Months ago, because of Sanders I declared myself a Democratic establishment. I was told by krissey Feb 2020 #5
Exactly! William769 Feb 2020 #8
They try to shame us, with the Democratic establishment. They try to shame us, our feminism. krissey Feb 2020 #11
I was all in for President Obama, I was all in from the beginning with Hillary William769 Feb 2020 #13
Warren for me, and I am with you on that, William. Just that. krissey Feb 2020 #15
1964 here and feel the same way Jersey Devil Feb 2020 #7
Same here my friend. William769 Feb 2020 #10
1972 McGovern.. my first vote Peacetrain Feb 2020 #12
Same here wryter2000 Feb 2020 #43
Oh John Anderson.. almost forgot about him Peacetrain Feb 2020 #50
Not just dummer wryter2000 Feb 2020 #64
Do you see Sanders as McGovern 2020? juliuswest Feb 2020 #63
1976 for me relayerbob Feb 2020 #14
I was born into the Democratic establishment. murielm99 Feb 2020 #16
My Fathers virst vote was for FDR. My Mothers, JFK. William769 Feb 2020 #17
Hear, hear! northoftheborder Feb 2020 #18
Well Said!!!! blue-wave Feb 2020 #19
me too! William769 Feb 2020 #21
I have never voted for a Republican for President and never will. TNNurse Feb 2020 #20
I Have Been Part Of The Resistence DanieRains Feb 2020 #22
Sorry but you haven't been. Democratic Establishment are party power brokers that would/should not Nanjeanne Feb 2020 #23
I was Helped put the power brokers in place by voting. William769 Feb 2020 #24
Do you have the same outrage? Rilgin Feb 2020 #34
Really? Are you a longtime elected Democrat on the national level? aikoaiko Feb 2020 #25
Who puts those people in those places? William769 Feb 2020 #27
So you support them. That's fine. I voted for HRC aikoaiko Feb 2020 #28
Says you. William769 Feb 2020 #29
Yes. aikoaiko Feb 2020 #30
I love when others tell us what we are... LakeArenal Feb 2020 #51
Like BS? Cha Feb 2020 #65
Bernie has operated outside of the party. aikoaiko Feb 2020 #66
Nah.. I'm gonna with "establishment" Cha Feb 2020 #67
I've been establishment since 2016 Fresh_Start Feb 2020 #26
I do not care if its Bernie, Pete, Biden, Warren or whoever wins the nomination as I will vote cstanleytech Feb 2020 #31
Well put! I agree wholeheartedly! KSNY Feb 2020 #33
I went door knocking for Humphrey in 1968. Midnight Writer Feb 2020 #35
Trump bashed the "establishment" too. Red Oak Feb 2020 #36
I've been in the Democratic Establishment since mid-June 1972 when the Watergate was broken into. George II Feb 2020 #39
I have no doubt where your loyalties lay. William769 Feb 2020 #54
I wish I could rec this a thousand times wryter2000 Feb 2020 #41
My first presidential vote was in 1972 for George McGovern. greatauntoftriplets Feb 2020 #42
... William769 Feb 2020 #53
..... greatauntoftriplets Feb 2020 #56
... William769 Feb 2020 #57
.....!!! greatauntoftriplets Feb 2020 #58
.......!!!!! William769 Feb 2020 #59
.......!!!!!!!111111 greatauntoftriplets Feb 2020 #60
Yup. I got in a bit earlier than you. fleabiscuit Feb 2020 #45
I'm voting for the person who best exemplifies Democratic values. brutus smith Feb 2020 #46
You'll vote for Sanders if he wins. Bonobo Feb 2020 #49
As you'll vote for Bloomberg if he wins. Kaleva Feb 2020 #55
Mahalo for your OP, William.. Very Cha Feb 2020 #52
We have good reason to stay optimistic. William769 Feb 2020 #61
It's contagious! Cha Feb 2020 #62
 

Turin_C3PO

(13,911 posts)
1. I'm voting blue no matter who.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 04:19 PM
Feb 2020

This election is too important to screw around. Trump must go!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

erlewyne

(1,115 posts)
38. What the Fuck is the democratic establishment?
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 06:51 PM
Feb 2020

I am a democrat, got a big tent.
Say I am voting democrat. period.
This Barr language pisses me off.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
48. Same here
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 07:46 PM
Feb 2020

There are things I like and dislike about all of the candidates, but I will absolutely vote for any of them. Even Bloomberg, though I'd have to really hold my nose to vote for him.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
2. I have been a proud member since 1974.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 04:20 PM
Feb 2020

If you don't like it stuff it. I am proud of my party, I don't think we need any revolution, we just need intelligent people to go out and vote for crying out loud.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Mr.Bill

(24,242 posts)
32. Me too, although
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 06:22 PM
Feb 2020

I registered first as a republican so I could vote against Nixon in the primary. Actually we had a very progressive republican congressman in our area named Pete McCloskey, and he was running against Nixon.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
47. I worked his campaign with my mom.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 07:27 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

still_one

(92,061 posts)
4. Same here William, except I have been since mid seventies. Respect your elders
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 04:27 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

krissey

(1,205 posts)
9. I was just at the Bernie supporter age of about 18 and in California sitting in gaslines when
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 04:32 PM
Feb 2020

Reagan ran. I dipped my toes in Reagan Democrat for the first year of the first term. But like 18 yr olds, I did not vote. After that, I have been Democratic establishment, since. It fits my core values with my progressive and liberal self.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

CarlSpackler

(3 posts)
44. Very similar experience
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 07:02 PM
Feb 2020

I've been more passive since, but getting more active. I have preferences, but open minded going forward.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

krissey

(1,205 posts)
5. Right. Months ago, because of Sanders I declared myself a Democratic establishment. I was told by
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 04:29 PM
Feb 2020

a fellow democratic establishment dude not to say that. That Sanders was using it derogatory and we needed to stay away from it. Like liberal. Like feminist. I do not mind being called Democratic establishment. It is not a dirty word. It is not just like the Republicans, either.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

William769

(55,144 posts)
8. Exactly!
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 04:32 PM
Feb 2020

Definitely not a dirty word.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

krissey

(1,205 posts)
11. They try to shame us, with the Democratic establishment. They try to shame us, our feminism.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 04:35 PM
Feb 2020

They try to shame us our gay pride. The try to shame us our black lives matter.

I am not ashamed. What can I say. I am sitting on the right side of history.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

William769

(55,144 posts)
13. I was all in for President Obama, I was all in from the beginning with Hillary
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 04:41 PM
Feb 2020

Now I'm all in for Pete. If he doesn't make it, I'll take whoever the Democratic establishment gives us.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

krissey

(1,205 posts)
15. Warren for me, and I am with you on that, William. Just that.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 04:43 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Jersey Devil

(9,874 posts)
7. 1964 here and feel the same way
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 04:30 PM
Feb 2020

I registered voters for LBJ before I was old enough to vote myself (vote age was 21 then). I want a Democrat for our nominee.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

William769

(55,144 posts)
10. Same here my friend.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 04:32 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Peacetrain

(22,872 posts)
12. 1972 McGovern.. my first vote
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 04:36 PM
Feb 2020

Proud member of a great party.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

wryter2000

(46,023 posts)
43. Same here
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 07:02 PM
Feb 2020

I have to confess that my husband and I once registered as Republicans so we could vote for John Anderson in the primary against that bozo, Reagan. I still regret we weren't successful at ridding the political scene of that disaster--the precursor to every disaster we've had since.

Of course, I voted for the Democrat in the GE and have never swayed since.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Peacetrain

(22,872 posts)
50. Oh John Anderson.. almost forgot about him
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 08:38 PM
Feb 2020

Did you ever think that we could get any worse than Nixon, then Reagan.. and Bush the younger.. now Trump.. they just keep getting dumber.. did not think it was possible

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

wryter2000

(46,023 posts)
64. Not just dummer
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 11:17 PM
Feb 2020

More evil

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

juliuswest

(57 posts)
63. Do you see Sanders as McGovern 2020?
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 10:13 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

relayerbob

(6,537 posts)
14. 1976 for me
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 04:41 PM
Feb 2020

We must win!

But we are Democrats!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

murielm99

(30,717 posts)
16. I was born into the Democratic establishment.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 04:45 PM
Feb 2020

I helped my dad pass out literature for Adlai Stevenson.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

William769

(55,144 posts)
17. My Fathers virst vote was for FDR. My Mothers, JFK.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 04:54 PM
Feb 2020

Yea age difference there.

I hope we all make them proud of us in 2020.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

blue-wave

(4,344 posts)
19. Well Said!!!!
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 05:25 PM
Feb 2020

I'm glad we have a similar point of view.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TNNurse

(6,926 posts)
20. I have never voted for a Republican for President and never will.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 05:26 PM
Feb 2020

My first vote was for Hubert Humphrey, 1968.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DanieRains

(4,619 posts)
22. I Have Been Part Of The Resistence
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 05:41 PM
Feb 2020

Since I started watching Bill Moyers.

After 2008 how many bank CEO's went to jail?

We need progress.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Nanjeanne

(4,915 posts)
23. Sorry but you haven't been. Democratic Establishment are party power brokers that would/should not
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 05:43 PM
Feb 2020

determine the winner. Correct Answer: The People should.

Unless you are one of the big shots in the party you don't have the power to take a win from the voters and place it in the hands of the "establishment" who will choose.

Are people really trying to make that tweet about people who are Democrats? I've been one since 1969. And I sure as hell ain't a member of the Democratic Establishment.

The tweet wasn't an arrogant or anti-democratic call. It was a call for democracy. But those who hate Bernie will misinterpret anything and feel happy while doing it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

William769

(55,144 posts)
24. I was Helped put the power brokers in place by voting.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 05:46 PM
Feb 2020

I refer you back to the OP and my message.

Have a nice day.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Rilgin

(787 posts)
34. Do you have the same outrage?
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 06:41 PM
Feb 2020

Do you have the same outrage when Pete campaigns on not being a Washington Insider or not being the same old democrat. Or says its time for a changing of the guard? These are the same attacks.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

aikoaiko

(34,163 posts)
25. Really? Are you a longtime elected Democrat on the national level?
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 05:54 PM
Feb 2020

Or are you a wealthy power broker helping establishment Democrats?

If not, then you’re not the Democratic Party establishment.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

William769

(55,144 posts)
27. Who puts those people in those places?
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 06:00 PM
Feb 2020

I did go to a private dinner in 2015 & the guest speaker was Hillary Clinton.

It's all about the people you know & associate with.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

aikoaiko

(34,163 posts)
28. So you support them. That's fine. I voted for HRC
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 06:01 PM
Feb 2020


But that’s doesnt make you the establishment in the Democratic Party.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

William769

(55,144 posts)
29. Says you.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 06:03 PM
Feb 2020

Have a nice Day.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LakeArenal

(28,804 posts)
51. I love when others tell us what we are...
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 08:45 PM
Feb 2020

You can’t be an Establishment Dem cuz some said you can’t.

It’s like saying you can’t be William 769 because I only know 700 Williams.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

aikoaiko

(34,163 posts)
66. Bernie has operated outside of the party.
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 10:11 AM
Feb 2020

Hence, not Democratic Party establishment.

Did you not know that?
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Cha

(296,852 posts)
67. Nah.. I'm gonna with "establishment"
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 03:53 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
26. I've been establishment since 2016
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 05:59 PM
Feb 2020

long time declinr to state or independent voter except first election in the 1980s when I was green.....

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

cstanleytech

(26,236 posts)
31. I do not care if its Bernie, Pete, Biden, Warren or whoever wins the nomination as I will vote
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 06:07 PM
Feb 2020

for them and give them 100% of my support as the alternative is Trump.
So everyone needs to ask themselves if they want 4 more years of the shit stain that is in the oval office or do they want someone sane to help our country recover and hold Trump accountable?
Or to channel my inner Samuel L Jackson "Lets vote that motherfucker out of fucking office and get that motherfucker in prison where he belongs"

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

KSNY

(315 posts)
33. Well put! I agree wholeheartedly!
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 06:26 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Midnight Writer

(21,717 posts)
35. I went door knocking for Humphrey in 1968.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 06:47 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Red Oak

(697 posts)
36. Trump bashed the "establishment" too.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 06:47 PM
Feb 2020

It worked out OK for him.

If it turns out to be our nominee is Sen Sanders (obviously I think Sen Warren the better GE candidate), I will vote for him.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
39. I've been in the Democratic Establishment since mid-June 1972 when the Watergate was broken into.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 06:53 PM
Feb 2020

Since then I've voted for:

McGovern
Carter
Carter
Dukakis
Clinton
Clinton
Gore
Kerry
Obama
Obama
Clinton

....and hundreds of other Democrats along the way.

I've voted for exactly ONE republican in my life - in a local election years ago because a personal friend was running. He lost.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

William769

(55,144 posts)
54. I have no doubt where your loyalties lay.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 08:58 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

wryter2000

(46,023 posts)
41. I wish I could rec this a thousand times
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 06:55 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

greatauntoftriplets

(175,729 posts)
42. My first presidential vote was in 1972 for George McGovern.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 07:00 PM
Feb 2020

But I've consciously been a Democrat since I was 6 and watched the conventions -- Stevenson vs. Eisenhower.

And, may the gods help me, I've been in wine caves. With cousins. In Europe! The horror!!!!!!11111111




If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

William769

(55,144 posts)
59. .......!!!!!
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 09:12 PM
Feb 2020




greatauntoftriplets
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

greatauntoftriplets

(175,729 posts)
60. .......!!!!!!!111111
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 09:34 PM
Feb 2020



Wiliam769

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

fleabiscuit

(4,542 posts)
45. Yup. I got in a bit earlier than you.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 07:17 PM
Feb 2020

However, I'll remember the '81 election forever. Me and my new wife were excited to go in and both vote for Carter, her fist presidential vote.

We were just about to park and go in and vote (west coast) when the fucking radio announced that RayGun was declared the winner. What a freaking gut punch that was.

We still went in and completed voting but with caring a sadness. The West coast threw such a shit fit that we now don't get those early predictions. F'ers.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

brutus smith

(685 posts)
46. I'm voting for the person who best exemplifies Democratic values.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 07:26 PM
Feb 2020

Right now it's Elizabeth or Bernie.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Bonobo

(29,257 posts)
49. You'll vote for Sanders if he wins.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 08:23 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Kaleva

(36,258 posts)
55. As you'll vote for Bloomberg if he wins.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 08:59 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(296,852 posts)
52. Mahalo for your OP, William.. Very
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 08:49 PM
Feb 2020

Encouraging!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

William769

(55,144 posts)
61. We have good reason to stay optimistic.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 10:10 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(296,852 posts)
62. It's contagious!
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 10:12 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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