Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumWhy do so many Sanders supporters think he lacks the skills to build a coalition?
I pose this serious question, based on the assumption that Sanders wins a plurality.
A skilled politician who wins a plurality in the primaries should be able to assemble a majority coalition. Creating a consensus is a skill a leader needs. A plurality gives a politician a powerful tool to creates this consensus.
A politician who alienates all but his base destroys the power of the pluraiity, and such a politiician will have considerable trouble.
Apparently, many Sanders supporters don't think Sanders has the ability to create a consensus. Rather they Sanders as a person who alienates much of the majority who didn't vote for him.
We repeatedly have to hear that if Sanders gets a plurality, he'll be robbed. Beyond showing an ignorance of the nomination process, this shows a lack of faith in Sanders' political acumen. After, if they think Sanders is a good leader, they presumably should think he has the skills to build a coalition.
But I don't see any of them making this argument. They instead predict being robbed by the majority who didn't vote for Sanders (or as the Sanders supporters frequently call this majority, "The Establishment).
Why is it that Sanders supporters have such a low opinion of Sanders' abilities as a leader and of the majority of Democratic voters?
ETA: A number of Sanders supporters have already claimed the premise is not true. However, they offer no evidence it isn't. I disagree. I hear it over and over. Let me offer this thread Sanders could win the votes and lose the nomination. IS THAT DEMOCRACY? as just one piece of evidence the question a solid foundation in fact. You can find plenty of evidence elsewhere--but you have to open your eyes and your mind to see it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Response to Julian English (Original post)
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evertonfc
(1,713 posts)He's an ideologue and anyone that disagrees is a corporate shill or elite. He will bring some new voters on board but get absolutely crushed in a GE.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DanTex
(20,709 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ChubbyStar
(3,191 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Scotch-Irish
(464 posts)and over and over and over and over.
That somehow Bernie should be hated by everyone but a cult following. That's just so much BS, but you hear it on MSNBC and on DU over and over and over and over.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Voltaire2
(12,939 posts)That nonsense comes from his opponents.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Julian English
(434 posts)The idea that Sanders could win a plurality and not win the nomination has been a trope repeated and repeated on DU and other places. I edited my original post to give this example, a thread today in DU: Sanders could win the votes and lose the nomination. IS THAT DEMOCRACY?
If you or I chose to do the search, we could find this sentiment repeated over and over, that Sanders could win a plurality but not get the nomination.
The thread I cite and similar such laments clearly imply that some Sanders supporter have no faith in Sanders' skills a coalation builder, no faith in the Democratic Party, or no faith in both.
Can you explain them? Or do you choose to ignore the evidence?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Voltaire2
(12,939 posts)You've changed topics from "he cant work with others" to "he isn't going to get a majority of the delegates", and your evidence that Sanders supporters think he can't build coalitions is apparently their perhaps well founded fear that the animosity toward Sanders from 'party leaders' might result in the awkward situation where super delegates hand the nomination to 'anybody but bernie' despite his having a large plurality.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gravitycollapse
(8,155 posts)Hes already doing it.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Nanjeanne
(4,915 posts)talk about facts and statistics that show just that. But its a losing argument here.
Just look at statistics from NV. Bernie leads with progressive and liberal self-identifiers. But he is an extremely close 2nd to Biden among self identified moderates. He is also doing great with people over 45. He is doing great with all minorities but also leading with whites.
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primary today, I would vote for: Undecided