Its official - Amy is going on to South Carolina.

[squirecam]

She isn’t quitting folks. So stop asking.

[jezebel321]

1. Bernie Sanders thanks her for her participation. nt

[squirecam]

3. Then tell your candidate to quit

If you are scared of Bernie winning.

[CalFione]

8. His candidate should quit soon too

[Celerity]

24. Pete will more than likely come 2nd or 3rd, hit 15% in NV, after winning or tying the 1st two states

He is still viable, even though he may not be after Super Tuesday..

On the other hand, Klobuchar, other than Minnesota, has zero shot to win a state. She is dead last of the last debate candidates in almost every state polled recently and is also dead last nationally of the debate qualified candidates.

She already played a role in handing Bernie a tie in NH. She had a very poor last debate, and although she is more than welcome to stay in as long as she wants (I have not called for anyone to drop out other than Gabbard) she does not have a path.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

2. Excellent! We need her voice!

[tritsofme]

4. At this point she is far more likely to be a spoiler for Sanders than the nominee.

If she’s fine with that, she should certainly carry on.

[squirecam]

6. Steyer has 20% in South Carolina

If anyone is stopping Biden there, it’s him, not Amy.

[CalFione]

10. Steyer should drop out too

[squirecam]

14. He has 20%

Why would he quit?

[W_HAMILTON]

21. Because 20% in South Carolina isn't going to win him the nomination.

He performed poorly in Iowa and New Hampshire, doesn't poll well nationally, and has spent his entire campaign being really focused on Nevada and South Carolina. If he can't even win those two states, where can he win? Nowhere really, hence, he should drop out.

[CalFione]

26. Because he has no path to the nom and is blocking Joe in SC

which helps Bernie.

If Steyer is out, Biden wins big in SC.

With Steyer in, Bernie might pull out a win in SC.

[hangaleft]

41. Sanders, Warren, Biden, Buttigieg, Klobuchar and Steyer should all drop out!

Go Tulsi!

[tritsofme]

23. She has no path to the nomination. It's an ego thing at this point.

[KewlKat]

39. Ego! Wow...who has recently said the Democratic establishment won't stop him?

Winning the nomination and the office will not help if we can't maintain the house and win back the senate.

[tritsofme]

50. She has no path to the nomination. I'm not sure what the point of her campaign is any more.

[CalFione]

5. I love Amy. But it is time.

She has no path to the nomination, and staying in the race and taking 7-10% from the other non-Bernie candidates is counterproductive.

And Pete should leave after SC too.

If the race is down to Bernie, Joe, Liz, and a weak Bloomberg... there’s a chance.

Liz bleeds some of Bernie’s vote, the majority that is moderate consolidates largely behind Biden, and Bloomberg can spend his money attacking Bernie and Trump while getting a trickle of votes.

It is what has to happen.

[squirecam]

11. If you don't want Bernie getting delegates

Then you want Amy in the race. Minnesota is a Super Tuesday state. She is winning it. Bernie wins it if she drops out.

Name the states that Pete or Warren lead. Last I checked, Bernie is winning MA.

[CalFione]

19. Warren is a strong 2nd in CA right now

and we need her to block Bernie from getting some progressive votes.

If Amy isn’t in and endorses Joe, he would win Minn.

[question everything]

17. So, just curious. You want everyone to drop

you are still "undecided" isn't it time to reveal your true goal?

[CalFione]

20. My goal is anybody but Bernie

I am trying to game-theory this out.

I was Klobuchar until 3 days ago, but now we have to be strategic.

[at140]

34. Why are so many newbie's against Sanders?

I noticed a whole bunch signed up during last few weeks and almost all are against Sanders.
Nothing illegal or wrong about that, but it is kind of strange.

[Kaleva]

38. I see a lot of old timers against Sanders.

and many new members who have declared for Sanders.

[at140]

42. You either missed my point or ignored it?

Of course the old timers have all different choice for candidates.
Warren has the most supporters, followed by Biden, followed by others. Completely normal!
It is a big and normal bell curve.

Since you missed my point, here it is again...

Almost none of the newbies want Bloomberg to drop out but want many others to drop out.
Very curious situation. No Bell curve whatsoever.

[Kaleva]

44. Being a Bloomberg supporter, I see many newbies attacking him

As I often read, and sometimes comment in, threads concerning Bloomberg.

Here's an example which I quickly found:

"Bloomberg and his people are trying to buy the election rather than going through normal democratic processes. At least Bloomberg is open about trying the steal the election. The Russians are doing it covertly, while Mike and his Minions are doing it out in the open. Anyway, Bloomberg is my last choice out of all of the Democratic contenders. Stay home, Mike! You are not wanted..."

[at140]

46. OK, I will do more reading of newbie posts,

and I hope you are right. May be I just happened to read posts none of which were asking Bloomberg to drop out to clear path for Biden.

[Kaleva]

47. But I will concede that you may be more correct.

Admittingly , I'm biased and see what I want to see. I don't have the inclination to go over every thread about Bloomberg and do this more scientifically!

Edit: Just because I quickly found one example doesn't mean what I said holds true. It might be a minor event.

[cwydro]

25. Wow, just joined DU, but you're all over the place telling people which candidates should drop out.

Fascinating.

[CalFione]

29. my personal preferences are

Klobuchar
Biden
Buttigieg
Warren
.
.
.
Bloomberg
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
Bernie



we have to game theory this out. I want one of those top 4. Amy isn’t viable any more.

[cwydro]

30. Mm.

[at140]

35. This new poster wants everyone to drop out except Bloomberg

Is that a clue?

[elleng]

31. Right, that crap's happening a lot here.

Tells me something(s.)

[squirecam]

36. It's very annoying indeed

Nt

[elleng]

37. Worse than 'annoying,' imo.

[Apple Fritter]

7. Yeah !

She could do super well in SC like she did in Iowa. I think she's got a strong start, in her campaign.After Iowa, I like her more than Biden for sure (but not as much as Warren). Trust me when I say, that people tell other people to drop out because they want THEIR candidate winning.

[W_HAMILTON]

18. Not true.

I want people to drop out because I don't want Sanders to win. I have gone back and forth between several candidates throughout the primary. If Klobuchar were in a position where she could actually challenge Sanders for the nomination, I would be supporting her right now, but she's not, and it looks like she has absolutely no path to the nomination, therefore, I think she should drop out.

[Celerity]

40. She is around Pete level with black voters. She is dead last in most

state polls of the last debate-qualified candidates. She will probably not do that well at all in SC or, more than likely, most states on ST, save for Minnesota.

[squirecam]

43. What state does Pete

Lead in on Super Tuesday?

[Celerity]

45. none that I know of atm, but he is capable of hitting 15% in multiple ones, and thus pulls delegates

from Bernie. If he is not viable after ST, I am sure he will drop out at some point.

The 15% level is a big deal in terms of tamping down Sanders in term of racking up huge percentages of delegates. At this point I think it is all about keeping Bernie under the 1990 (I put the cut off at 1600 or so, as over that he is too high to deny). IF Klobuchar is staying in to block Bernie from taking ALL the delegates, or near all, in Minnesota, then that is fine.

[squirecam]

48. I got news for everyone.

That’s exactly what everyone except Biden is going to do. No one else has a chance of getting a majority of pledged delegates. Not Pete. Not Amy. Not Warren. Not Bloomberg.

It’s either Biden or Sanders get a majority, or Sanders has a plurality headed into the convention.

[Celerity]

49. I will have a clearer picture after SC. Then obviously after ST. I think the odds are we may have to

shoot for keeping Sanders under 1600 (roughly 40%) and coalescing around Biden to get him up to point where Superdelegates and the addition of Pete and Amy and Bloomberg delegates puts him over the top on the 2nd (or more) ballot.

If Bernie has over 40% or more of the delegates and no one else is within 10 or 15 points, and THEN he is denied the nomination, all hell will break loose, and if he is at 45, 47% and denied, I am afraid he may do something crazy like run on an indy or 3rd party ticket. Even if he doesn't, many of his millions of voters will lose their minds and defect.

It is still far too murky to make it all out yet, BUT, at thsi point, Rump and Putin surely must be doing a dance, say a Moscow Minuet.

Biden really needs to win big in SC, and he also needs to avoid things like this:


Biden Adds a Claim to His Biography: An Arrest in South Africa

Joe Biden has recounted a story — three times in two weeks — about being arrested on his way to see Nelson Mandela. He did not mention it in his memoir or speak prominently of it before.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/21/us/politics/biden-south-africa-arrest-mandela.html

[left-of-center2012]

9. Doesn't this split the moderate vote?

Helping Bernie?

[squirecam]

12. No.

If you don't want Bernie getting delegates Then you want Amy in the race. Minnesota is a Super Tuesday state. She is winning it. Bernie wins it if she drops out.

Name the states that Pete or Warren lead. Last I checked, Bernie is winning MA.

[question everything]

13. But some wish she did

[riversedge]

15. I am listening to her speech from Minneapolis right now. msnbc covered pretty much

of it.

[Kingofalldems]

16. The moderates have to get together and pick one person.

Otherwise a disaster is forthcoming.

[apcalc]

22. Yaaaaay!

[still_one]

27. She should

[elleng]

28. Yes she is,

after ### 'interim' spots. "Let's see how many of 't"hem' go to Fargo," I think she said!

[stopbush]

32. Klobuchar has no path forward to win the nomination. She's lost any bump she had

after NH.

She should step aside.

[flamingdem]

33. And moderate Dem ego lost the race to

Bernie. May we all jump on the bandwagon. Our democracy depends on it.