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bluewater

(5,376 posts)
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 08:51 PM Feb 2020

Candidates opposing Medicare for All miscalculated...




"Maybe the candidates who staked their primary campaigns on opposing Medicare for All miscalculated."

Indeed.

To be clear:

IOWA: 57% supported Medicare For All versus 38% that did not.

NH: 58% supported Medicare For All versus 37% that did not.

NEVADA: 62% supported Medicare For All versus 35% that did not.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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evertonfc

(1,713 posts)
1. remember that this
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 08:53 PM
Feb 2020

is a primary with people that typically support it. It has zero chance of ever happening. It's a moot argument really.

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Gravitycollapse

(8,155 posts)
2. This is what people said of ACA and that happened.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 08:54 PM
Feb 2020
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evertonfc

(1,713 posts)
4. big, big, big difference.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 08:55 PM
Feb 2020

I love my private insurance. As long as I can keep mine. The M4A and ACA are not even close in comparison.

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Gravitycollapse

(8,155 posts)
5. Both were/are giant leaps forward.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 08:57 PM
Feb 2020

People underestimate how much support their is for M4A just as they did with the ACA.

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DanTex

(20,709 posts)
9. You'll still be able to get supplemental private insurance.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 09:22 PM
Feb 2020
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bluewater

(5,376 posts)
3. Remember that this is what the majority of Democratic voters actually want...
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 08:55 PM
Feb 2020

Medicare For All.



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Moderateguy

(945 posts)
6. I thought MAJORITY was 50.01 percent
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 08:59 PM
Feb 2020

Since Sanders has not come anywhere near that number I think you cannot claim that a majority of Democratic voters want M4A

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bluewater

(5,376 posts)
7. The MAJORITY in Iowa, the MAJORITY in NH, the MAJORITY now in Nevada
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 09:20 PM
Feb 2020

All those VOTERS preferred Medicare For All.

And of course, national polls and studies show the same thing:

Public Opinion on Single-Payer, National Health Plans, and Expanding Access to Medicare Coverage
https://www.kff.org/slideshow/public-opinion-on-single-payer-national-health-plans-and-expanding-access-to-medicare-coverage/


But, nice try at a deflection to Bernie Sanders.

All those results were for MEDICARE FOR ALL, not any specific candidate.



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Rilgin

(787 posts)
8. I guess you didnt read the OP
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 09:21 PM
Feb 2020

The tweet and OP didn't say people support Bernie, they say exit polls show that voters tell pollsters they want single payer (regardless of who they vote for).

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Rilgin

(787 posts)
11. Here is the quote I responded to. Note the word Sanders in Moderate Guys post
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 09:47 PM
Feb 2020

"Since Sanders has not come anywhere near that number I think you cannot claim that a majority of Democratic voters want M4A" said by ModerateGuy in this thread and is the post I responded to.

Moderateguy failed to notice or deliberately misread that the OP was talking M4A and not Sanders. Read this thread, follow who responded to who. Then you can say to me I apologize from misreading who you were responding to and yes the poster you responded to first mentioned Bernie

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bluewater

(5,376 posts)
12. My deepest apology. I misread the thread linkages.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 09:56 PM
Feb 2020

I misread and thought you were replying to me.

Thank you for pointing out my error.

I will self-delete my response to you.



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Rilgin

(787 posts)
13. No Problem. I had to delete and apologize for a mistake yesterday. Happens.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 11:55 PM
Feb 2020
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robbedvoter

(28,290 posts)
14. And Mexico will pay for it!
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 11:59 PM
Feb 2020

🙄

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jalan48

(13,864 posts)
15. The health insurance industry would not like that!
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 12:00 AM
Feb 2020
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MoonlitKnight

(1,584 posts)
16. It bugs me when people with Medicare are against M4A
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 12:31 AM
Feb 2020

Shows in the polling breakdown by age. Just like back in the fight for ACA there were signs of protesters saying “keep your government hands off my Medicare “.

Also known as “I got mine so F U.”

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David__77

(23,382 posts)
17. I don't know that I think it's a mistake.
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 12:37 AM
Feb 2020

If they're opposed to it, they're opposed to it. Voters can choose.

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melman

(7,681 posts)
18. Yep
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 12:37 AM
Feb 2020

Certainly looks that way.

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budkin

(6,703 posts)
19. It's my most important issue
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 12:38 AM
Feb 2020

Enough is enough

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NCcoast

(480 posts)
20. Bingo! We have a winner
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 01:38 AM
Feb 2020

Perhaps the electorate would like a little leadership from the 'progressive' party in the direction of progress, rather than in the direction of appeasement.

As my dear old dad always said, 'an effective leader has an agenda, a vision, somewhere they would like to take the country.' Trump is actually an effective leader in that respect. He has a direction he wants to take the country in. Unfortunately his vision is a dystopian nightmare. We need a project a positive vision as an alternative. You know, universal healthcare and other programs which better everyone's lives.

The American people are speaking loud and clear. Is the democratic party going to embrace that change or replace the dying republican party as the conservative party on America? The jury is still out, but the changes is coming, with or without them.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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