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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

highplainsdem

(48,959 posts)
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 11:02 PM Feb 2020

Warren speaking now -- MSNBC!

She congratulates Bernie, but thanks Nevada for keeping her in the fight.

And she says that a quarter of a million people have contributed $9 million to her campaign since the debate.


Oh, ugh. MSNBC cut off Warren's speech so Reid could talk to Nina Turner.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Warren speaking now -- MSNBC! (Original Post) highplainsdem Feb 2020 OP
Hitting Doomberg now... jmg257 Feb 2020 #1
And immediately attacks Bloomberg squirecam Feb 2020 #2
Bloomberg is an easier target for her than Sanders is. highplainsdem Feb 2020 #3
Fine squirecam Feb 2020 #5
Joe and Pete camps went after Warren all last fall as they gave Sanders a pass. blm Feb 2020 #11
You can complain but it's useless. squirecam Feb 2020 #14
Gee, Joe and Pete's braintrusts told them to attack Warren for 3mths blm Feb 2020 #16
So it's complaining... squirecam Feb 2020 #18
I'm not. Joe and Pete made that choice. They preferred Sanders blm Feb 2020 #22
You've got it wrong squirecam denem Feb 2020 #27
There is no time. squirecam Feb 2020 #30
As far as SC is concerned - denem Feb 2020 #33
Biden is simply not good at debates. squirecam Feb 2020 #34
She is fixated on the wrong guy. IluvPitties Feb 2020 #4
Exactly squirecam Feb 2020 #6
Joe was helping Bernie all last fall when he spent 3mths attacking Warren blm Feb 2020 #19
+1,000,000,000 MoonlitKnight Feb 2020 #24
Exactly, I just don't understand this strategy of hers. wisteria Feb 2020 #7
She may be trying a complex triangulation. Blue_true Feb 2020 #36
Focused on the wrong guy, but still love hearing her, BUT Democrats Ascendant Feb 2020 #8
She may be trying to help Biden. Bloomberg being in the race hurts Biden. Blue_true Feb 2020 #37
She needs to pivot back to what she is fighting for andym Feb 2020 #9
Warren is pivoting to being Sanders vp Bumperstickers Feb 2020 #10
She is not. blm Feb 2020 #12
We will see at the Tuesday debate. squirecam Feb 2020 #15
You want her to wear a skirt Joe and Pete can BOTH hide behind? blm Feb 2020 #25
I don't have any boys. squirecam Feb 2020 #29
Gotcha. She needs to wear an extra large skirt. blm Feb 2020 #32
I would love to see her stay in the race. Maybe a sanders warren ticket juxtaposed Feb 2020 #13
+1 Buckeye_Democrat Feb 2020 #35
I'm panicking now. Thinking of switching to Biden ecstatic Feb 2020 #17
Exactly squirecam Feb 2020 #20
Joe is not trying to win unless he shows the same fire against Sanders blm Feb 2020 #26
I think she's near the end as I said in another thread. Kaleva Feb 2020 #21
Once again Faux pas Feb 2020 #23
I'm still with Liz budkin Feb 2020 #28
Without going through Sanders squirecam Feb 2020 #31
 

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
1. Hitting Doomberg now...
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 11:04 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

squirecam

(2,706 posts)
2. And immediately attacks Bloomberg
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 11:05 PM
Feb 2020

Bloomberg isn’t stopping her from being President.

Sanders is.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

highplainsdem

(48,959 posts)
3. Bloomberg is an easier target for her than Sanders is.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 11:06 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

squirecam

(2,706 posts)
5. Fine
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 11:07 PM
Feb 2020

Sanders gets the nomination.

That’s whats it’s come to. You either attack the easy target and lose, or go after the actual front runner.....

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

blm

(113,039 posts)
11. Joe and Pete camps went after Warren all last fall as they gave Sanders a pass.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 11:35 PM
Feb 2020

There was only one person keeping Sanders numbers down last year and that was Warren.

But, noooooo.....Ego before party. Gee....if only we can knockout Warren we can haz all the cheeseburgers.

Just as I warned for months, Joe and Pete were helping Bernie every time they attacked Warren.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

squirecam

(2,706 posts)
14. You can complain but it's useless.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 11:40 PM
Feb 2020

The time is now. If Warren goes after Bloomberg and ignores Sanders, then Sanders is getting the nomination. The past is over.

It’s now or never.

Tuesday will show whether Warren wants to win, or is happy just stopping Bloomberg.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

blm

(113,039 posts)
16. Gee, Joe and Pete's braintrusts told them to attack Warren for 3mths
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 11:45 PM
Feb 2020

and lay off Sanders, and now Warren is needed to attack Sanders because Joe and Pete just....won’t....do....it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

squirecam

(2,706 posts)
18. So it's complaining...
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 11:47 PM
Feb 2020

Guess you are fine with Sanders then.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

blm

(113,039 posts)
22. I'm not. Joe and Pete made that choice. They preferred Sanders
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 11:54 PM
Feb 2020

become the nominee than a Democrat named Warren.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

denem

(11,045 posts)
27. You've got it wrong squirecam
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 12:26 AM
Feb 2020

if Warren is to win support from the berners, it is the moderates who have to take on Sanders, in the same way that Warren has taken on Bloomberg

Warren will not win over Sanders supporters by starting a bitter fire fight with their man - that is the job of those candidates who have the biggest policy differences with him.

Biden and Buttigieg would/will benefit the most if Warren takes Bloomberg out. Warren will benefit the most if Biden and Buttigieg take on/out Sanders. That's how it works.

And Pete made an excellent start on that tonight..

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

squirecam

(2,706 posts)
30. There is no time.
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 12:39 AM
Feb 2020

After South Carolina, there will either be one or two candidates that can actually win a majority. That’s Sanders or Biden. If Sanders wins, it’s over.

If Biden wins, maybe he can pull it out.

But Warren has NO chance of gaining a majority after Super Tuesday. Right now, she does not lead in ANY Super Tuesday state. Not even Massachusetts. If she leaves Sanders alone, then he gets a plurality, if not a majority.

The fact is, there are too many Warren supporters who are just fine with Sanders as the nominee. And that’s fine if that’s your position. Just admit it.

But if you are NOT fine with Sanders, then you gotta face facts. Warren cannot get a majority unless she goes through Sanders.

And she can’t ever do that by being his best buddy.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

denem

(11,045 posts)
33. As far as SC is concerned -
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 12:47 AM
Feb 2020

don't you think to most effective was for Biden to win is for he, and Buttigieg to take Sanders head on?

This whole election cycle I have been banging my head on the floor watching Biden treat Sanders with kid gloves. I could see the danger, why couldn't he? Why did he aim his fire on Warren, while praising Sanders for his honesty. As little as two debates ago, he gave Sanders a big hug! Geez.

Anyway, we disagree on the tactics, but not the objective.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

squirecam

(2,706 posts)
34. Biden is simply not good at debates.
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 12:55 AM
Feb 2020

Pete would rather attack Amy instead of focusing on Sanders.

The fact is, Warren is not only more effective, but any votes Warren manages to take from Sanders likely goes to her. So it helps her twice.

In any case, time has run out. Tuesday is the last debate that matters.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

IluvPitties

(3,181 posts)
4. She is fixated on the wrong guy.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 11:07 PM
Feb 2020

Or, she is just in to help Bernie now?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

blm

(113,039 posts)
19. Joe was helping Bernie all last fall when he spent 3mths attacking Warren
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 11:48 PM
Feb 2020

and completely laid off Sanders.

I warned many times here that Joe and Pete’s attacks on Warren were growing Sanders numbers.

They made their choice....they would rather Sanders win than Warren.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MoonlitKnight

(1,584 posts)
24. +1,000,000,000
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 12:18 AM
Feb 2020

Everyone was beating up on Warren. Now they are mad she isn’t going after Sanders so they don’t have to.

And by the way, she has gone after Sanders. More so than anyone else.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

wisteria

(19,581 posts)
7. Exactly, I just don't understand this strategy of hers.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 11:12 PM
Feb 2020

Other than raising money.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
36. She may be trying a complex triangulation.
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 01:26 AM
Feb 2020

Bloomberg is constraining Biden. If she eliminates Bloomberg, that directly helps Biden massively, pushing him past Sanders. The Bloomberg votes certainly WILL NOT go to Sanders, so the more she reduces Bloomberg, the more she helps Biden.

I think that she realizes that she is done, but that Bloomberg is hurting Biden. Based upon hints that she has gave, she seems to be worried about the socialist thing with Sanders.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 
8. Focused on the wrong guy, but still love hearing her, BUT
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 11:23 PM
Feb 2020

then switch away to Nina Turner and her aspirated aggressiveness...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
37. She may be trying to help Biden. Bloomberg being in the race hurts Biden.
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 01:31 AM
Feb 2020

I do believe that the other candidates need to take off the gloves with Sanders and hit him hard on guns, his Russian sanctions votes. They really need to absolutely pin Sanders down on his exact political philosophy, the only one who shouldn't try that is Bloomberg because he would help Sanders with such an attack.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

andym

(5,443 posts)
9. She needs to pivot back to what she is fighting for
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 11:25 PM
Feb 2020

Her result in NV was expected given that 2/3-3/4 of the votes at the "caucus" were recorded before the debate.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Bumperstickers

(199 posts)
10. Warren is pivoting to being Sanders vp
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 11:29 PM
Feb 2020

She congratulated Sanders victory enthusiastically in her speech, she did not say one other word about the frontrunner and she went after his biggest competition in Bloomberg again.

She ia now pivoting to Sanders attack dog vp.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

squirecam

(2,706 posts)
15. We will see at the Tuesday debate.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 11:41 PM
Feb 2020

Nt

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

blm

(113,039 posts)
25. You want her to wear a skirt Joe and Pete can BOTH hide behind?
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 12:22 AM
Feb 2020

Why don’t you advise your guys to tear into Sanders? For a change.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

squirecam

(2,706 posts)
29. I don't have any boys.
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 12:32 AM
Feb 2020

I support Amy.

Who was the *only* one who raised her hand when asked if Anyone had an issue with a socialist leading the ticket.

So don’t bring that stuff to me. I’m not asking Warren to do anything I didn’t expect Amy to do herself. You seem to want to keep harping on this same tired line.

Either Warren actually wants to be the nominee or she does not. If she doesn’t go after Sanders, then we know she’d rather be best buddies then be president.

It’s Tuesday, or she can forget being the nominee. Her choice.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

blm

(113,039 posts)
32. Gotcha. She needs to wear an extra large skirt.
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 12:46 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

juxtaposed

(2,778 posts)
13. I would love to see her stay in the race. Maybe a sanders warren ticket
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 11:37 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

ecstatic

(32,677 posts)
17. I'm panicking now. Thinking of switching to Biden
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 11:46 PM
Feb 2020

I saw her speech and it didn't seem to match the moment.

Bloom isn't the one running off with the election. That would be Bernie.

I don't think going with my heart is still an option this go round. 😢

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

squirecam

(2,706 posts)
20. Exactly
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 11:49 PM
Feb 2020

Warren is not trying to win unless she shows the same fire against Bernie that she showed against the other Dems. That just leads to a Sanders victory.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

blm

(113,039 posts)
26. Joe is not trying to win unless he shows the same fire against Sanders
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 12:25 AM
Feb 2020

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that he showed against Warren for 3 months straight. That just lead to an increase in Sanders chance to declare victory.

Good thing Warren isn’t grudging against Joe, and even helping him out the most by taking aim at Bloomberg so effectively.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Kaleva

(36,291 posts)
21. I think she's near the end as I said in another thread.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 11:53 PM
Feb 2020

She hasn't done well in the first 3 states and is expected to do poorly in upcoming SC. She's not in contention in any of the Super Tuesday states and is essentially in a tie with Sanders in her home state.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Faux pas

(14,657 posts)
23. Once again
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 12:10 AM
Feb 2020

media picks "our" candidate by ignoring/disregarding the viable woman in the pack.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

budkin

(6,699 posts)
28. I'm still with Liz
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 12:31 AM
Feb 2020

Comeback incoming...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

squirecam

(2,706 posts)
31. Without going through Sanders
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 12:41 AM
Feb 2020

She will never get a majority to be the nominee.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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