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LisaM

(27,800 posts)
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 11:52 PM Feb 2020

Elizabeth Warren is wrapping up a crazy good speech in Seattle.

We went down to hear her, but were in the overflow crowd. She came out and spoke to us first.

She was sharp and focused, inspiring and energetic. She'll probably get zero coverage on the news, which is frustrating.and depressing.

She's now doing a selfie line for everyone who wants a selfie, including the people who couldn't get in.

She was absolutely amazing and the crowd was super enthusiastic.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Elizabeth Warren is wrapping up a crazy good speech in Seattle. (Original Post) LisaM Feb 2020 OP
If she comes to Orlando, would love to hear DUers get together just to Baitball Blogger Feb 2020 #1
Waren speaking in the Seattle overflow room, Video: appalachiablue Feb 2020 #2
Great speech Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2020 #7
It was a great speech....but.... CalFione Feb 2020 #3
She us making a strategic decision wnylib Feb 2020 #9
I don't get the lack of coverage of Warren. ramen Feb 2020 #4
I suspect tbat they are ignoring her because wnylib Feb 2020 #12
Warren is a good candidate James48 Feb 2020 #5
She should not drop out. LisaM Feb 2020 #6
In two more weeks James48 Feb 2020 #8
She will drop out if she chooses wnylib Feb 2020 #14
Fuck that Buzz cook Feb 2020 #10
Buzz, you are wrong James48 Feb 2020 #13
That might be true if Dem primaries wnylib Feb 2020 #15
I am getting pissed at MSNBC, they cut off her speech in Seattle burrowowl Feb 2020 #11
That is because, as the nominee, wnylib Feb 2020 #17
WOW! what a great thread LisaM: erlewyne Feb 2020 #16
Just had a friend send a picture of his selfie with her! LisaM Feb 2020 #18
I hate to dwell, but I have to compliment. erlewyne Feb 2020 #19
 

Baitball Blogger

(46,699 posts)
1. If she comes to Orlando, would love to hear DUers get together just to
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 12:04 AM
Feb 2020

get in that selfie line.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

appalachiablue

(41,118 posts)
2. Waren speaking in the Seattle overflow room, Video:
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 01:32 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

CalFione

(571 posts)
3. It was a great speech....but....
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 01:44 AM
Feb 2020

Unless she starts going after Bernie harder, she has no chance at the nomination.

Either the gloves have to come off, and these candidates need to kneecap Bernie, or he waltzes to the nom.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

wnylib

(21,425 posts)
9. She us making a strategic decision
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 02:25 AM
Feb 2020

in not attacking Sanders. It would create too much division among Dems due to the passion of Sanders supporters. I think she is right about that.

Instead, she focuses on winning people over to her. She could use some good media coverage and significant endorsements now. And a lot of help from boots on the ground among her supporters. We could call out the media for ignoring her.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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ramen

(789 posts)
4. I don't get the lack of coverage of Warren.
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 02:01 AM
Feb 2020

She is highly qualified, markedly energetic, and an excellent candidate. Candidly, the way that DU is behaving around voters choosing Sanders (so far, at least.. many states to weigh in on that yet) makes me wish that the progressive wing puts its eggs in her basket. The ugliness and threats to take their ball and go home play right in to the trump supporters' hands.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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wnylib

(21,425 posts)
12. I suspect tbat they are ignoring her because
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 02:39 AM
Feb 2020

they prefer to see a fight between Sanders and Trump. The headlines of "fascist vs. socialist" (although I doubt they would openly call Trump a fascist) are too hard for them to pass up. There's money for them in that kind of fight.

The fact that Warren is a smart, qualified, and strong person who is also progressive but more "within the system" than Sanders is more threatening to the corporate media owners.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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James48

(4,435 posts)
5. Warren is a good candidate
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 02:07 AM
Feb 2020

But she either has to win something quick- or else she needs to step aside. She has about two weeks to make a first place showing or she must drop out.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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LisaM

(27,800 posts)
6. She should not drop out.
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 02:13 AM
Feb 2020

It's February, for Crissake.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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James48

(4,435 posts)
8. In two more weeks
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 02:22 AM
Feb 2020

It will be March. And after Super Tuesday, more than a third of all delegates will have been chosen.

Yes, If she doesn’t win any states by Super Tuesday, she needs to drop out.

The biggest Super Tuesday delegate hauls will be from California and Texas, but there will be other primaries in the South (Virginia, North Carolina, Alabama, Arkansas, Tennessee, Oklahoma), New England (Massachusetts, Maine, Vermont), the West (Colorado, Utah), and the Midwest (Minnesota), and caucuses in American Samoa.

Those, plus South Carolina is coming up next. If she doesn’t win any of the above, she has no path to victory.

I’m with Bernie.

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wnylib

(21,425 posts)
14. She will drop out if she chooses
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 02:43 AM
Feb 2020

to. That is her call, not yours or Sanders'.

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Buzz cook

(2,471 posts)
10. Fuck that
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 02:28 AM
Feb 2020

Warren will keep running till there is no other option. If Sanders had acted on your advice in 2016 he would have dropped out before California.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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James48

(4,435 posts)
13. Buzz, you are wrong
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 02:42 AM
Feb 2020

Bernie had won first place in 16 states by the end of March , 2016, including four of the first six contests. He had a clear path to win in 2016.

Warren needs to win first in SOME contests by the end of Super Tuesday, or there is no path for her to win at all.

Face it- she CAN still win, but it will take a great deal to overcome Bernie’s momentum. All I said was- she has two weeks to change the dynamic, but only if she wins something. If she continues to place 3rd or worse in the next two weeks, she has no path to win, and she should drop out.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

wnylib

(21,425 posts)
15. That might be true if Dem primaries
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 02:52 AM
Feb 2020

were winner take all. But we apportion delelegates.

Clinton failed to recognize that in 2008 against Obama.

It ain't over 'til it's over.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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burrowowl

(17,638 posts)
11. I am getting pissed at MSNBC, they cut off her speech in Seattle
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 02:33 AM
Feb 2020

They have been putting Warren in a black hole. A week or so ago The Nation had a good article on the erasure of Elizabeth Warren.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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wnylib

(21,425 posts)
17. That is because, as the nominee,
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 03:08 AM
Feb 2020

Warren would be a more formidable candidate against Trump than Sanders. Media, whether left ir right, have corporate owners.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

erlewyne

(1,115 posts)
16. WOW! what a great thread LisaM:
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 03:06 AM
Feb 2020

I am impressed with your thread but more impressed with the reply's
(thank you, thank you very much).

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

LisaM

(27,800 posts)
18. Just had a friend send a picture of his selfie with her!
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 04:05 AM
Feb 2020

He left at ten and said she still had 200 people lined up. The event started at 6:00.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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erlewyne

(1,115 posts)
19. I hate to dwell, but I have to compliment.
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 04:19 AM
Feb 2020

Thank you

It means very much to me, reading your good news.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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