Something interesting I noticed in Bernie's victory speech yesterday.

[beastie boy]

He went through every single one of his signature issues, making sure he doesn't miss any.

Except for one. Not a word on Medicare for All.

Bernie fans can correct me if I am wrong, but I think M4A is the only plan he provided some specific detail for. In any event, it is one of the few, and it is one he is most known for.

It cannot possibly be an oversight for Bernie not to mention it at all. It was deliberate. Is this a good sign or a bad sign? iI he is willing to overlook his signature issue, does this show Bernie being open to abandoning his more objectionable proposals, or does it imply , once he is President, he has no intention to deliver on M4A?

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. He was never going to be able to deliver on M4A.

It hasn't a snowball's chance in Hell of getting through Congress and he knows it.

[beastie boy]

4. The timing of this admission is peculiar, though.

Makes him look bad (or good, depending on how you interpret his speech), before he actually has to deliver on it.

[NYMinute]

9. He won't be able to deliver on any of his issues

They are all slogans cleverly designed to pander to certain naive constituencies who immediately believe that if a candidate is "for" something, it will get enacted.

[dalton99a]

21. Typical all-talk do-nothing career politician.

But it's cool to be part of The Revolution

[NYMinute]

22. Revolution of doom for the Democratic party

[PatSeg]

24. So true

Sanders is an outspoken activist. He is good at drawing large crowds and getting them fired up, but now that he is the presumed front-runner, reality is starting to set in. It is no longer about impassioned stump speeches before his supporters, now he has to face some hard realities. Its a lot easier to paint this wonderful image of a better and fairer world, but much harder to make it happen.

Positive lasting change tends to come in increments, rarely in dramatic revolutions.

[LakeArenal]

26. Too many decide on talking points and internet pols.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

2. Will have to check that... if true, not sure it means much, but an interesting point nonetheless.

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

[Autumn]

17. He did . He talked about healthcare for all, as he frequently does.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287566182#post16


People parsing words.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

28. Okay, thx Autumn... that's what I would've expected from Bernie.

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

[Moderateguy]

23. If true, it means a lot...

It means he is trying to pivot and appeal to the ENTIRE democratic party and not just the left-wing. I, for one, appreciate that.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

29. I hear what you're sayin'... but I doubt it's true. BTW, M4A SHOULD appeal to the ENTIRE party!!

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

[Moderateguy]

30. Our party includes lots of people with excellent private health insurance

What is the appeal of M4A for them? Remember a majority of people are selfish and don't care about the greater good

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

32. Hard to argue with ur statement in the last sentence...cept maybe whether it's a MAJORITY of people.

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

[Moderateguy]

33. When you include "our friends" in the other party it becomes a majority, sadly

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

35. Oh okay, I see now what you're sayin. Well, if anyone can change hearts and minds, it's Bernie!

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

[Moderateguy]

37. Let's agree to disagree on that one

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

39. Fair enough!

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

[Squinch]

3. He's always known it can't be passed. And so does everyone else.

[counting]

5. you're wrong

watched it a few hours ago

[beastie boy]

7. I doubt it, but I would appreciate the link.

I am referring to the one he gave yesterday at around 9PM ET. He may have given other speeches since then, but the omission in this one is peculiar.

[counting]

10. no problem

heres the link

?t=544

[TwilightZone]

11. Fox News isn't a valid source.

I suggest you find a better source, because most of us aren't interested in giving their website hits. I'm sure his speech is available elsewhere.

[bahrbearian]

13. It's a link to the speech , It's not a news cast.

[counting]

14. thanks for the reminder

?t=544

[beastie boy]

15. The source is fine, but can you point to the part of this 22 minute speech that

mentions M4A?

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

34. That's what I thought... no doubt, just an honest mistake.

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

[ismnotwasm]

6. If he wins the nomination, I hope like hell he wins the presidency

I hold out little hope for revolutionary change though.

Since Trump has decided he can do what he wants, I’m curious how that will translate to the next president. Weill Bernie Sanders be able to use EOs to jump start everything?

I haven’t spent much time wondering what his presidency will actually look like.

[octoberlib]

36. Any EO Bernie issues will immediately be challenged in court and overturned by one of those

Republican judges that got confirmed during Trump's tenure or SCOTUS.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

38. Yes... remember, the pen is mightier than the sword!!

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

[Hoyt]

8. I distinctly remember him talking about healthcare is a right, but don't remember if he

specifically said MFA. With him, I think it is implied when he talks about healthcare, even if he doesn't mention the phrase.

[beastie boy]

12. "Healthcre is a right" applies equally to ACA, public option and single payer,

in all their conceivable varieties. Does his general mention of healthcare being a right mean he is open to all or some of the above options?

[Autumn]

16. The problem is you're wrong. He did mention it. He said healthcare for all people,

as he frequently does when he's talking about MFA.

And together, we are going to end the international embarrassment of the United States of America, our great country, being the only major country on Earth not to guarantee healthcare to all people.

So let me be as clear as I can be. Healthcare is a human right, not a privilege. We are going to end the absurd situation in which we now are spending twice as much per person on healthcare as the people of any other country, yet 87 million of us are uninsured or under insured, 30,000 die each year and 500,000 people go bankrupt because of medically related debt. In America, you should not go bankrupt because you’re struggling with cancer. The function of a rational and humane healthcare system is to guarantee healthcare to all, not make 100 billion in profits for the drug companies and the insurance companies. And we are going to take on the greed and corruption of the pharmaceutical industry. Under our administration, the American people will not pay in some cases, 10 times more for the same prescription drugs sold in Mexico, Canada, or in Europe.

https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/nevada-caucus-speech-transcripts-bernie-sanders-elizabeth-warren-joe-biden-pete-buttigieg-amy-klobuchar-speak-after-nevada-results

[beastie boy]

18. I am not wrong. No mention of M4A. See reply 12

[Autumn]

19. MFA is the name of his bill he wrote. Providing healthcare for all Americans is one

is one of his issues that he talks about in hundred of his speeches. I laugh when people complain about him always having the same speech. I pay attention. If I wanted I google hundreds of times he has talked about healthcare for all and not mentioned his MFA plan. I gave you two examples that were in his Nevada speech. he might not have mentioned his bill by name but the issues that his bill takes care of was spoken of by him. I guarantee you, Bernie will never "overlook his signature issue", as you called it in your OP and stop fighting for the American people

And together, we are going to end the international embarrassment of the United States of America, our great country, being the only major country on Earth not to guarantee healthcare to all people.

So let me be as clear as I can be. Healthcare is a human right, not a privilege. We are going to end the absurd situation in which we now are spending twice as much per person on healthcare as the people of any other country, yet 87 million of us are uninsured or under insured, 30,000 die each year and 500,000 people go bankrupt because of medically related debt. In America, you should not go bankrupt because you’re struggling with cancer. The function of a rational and humane healthcare system is to guarantee healthcare to all, not make 100 billion in profits for the drug companies and the insurance companies. And we are going to take on the greed and corruption of the pharmaceutical industry. Under our administration, the American people will not pay in some cases, 10 times more for the same prescription drugs sold in Mexico, Canada, or in Europe.

But please parse on

[beastie boy]

20. M4A is the how he brands his plan to differentiate it

From all other plans offered by all other candidates. Yo really should read reply 12. It will spare you many unnecessarily repetitive and meaningless replies.

But you are welcome to cut and paste the same thing over and over again. Perhaps, eventually, your expectation of a different response to it will somehow materialize. Or not.

[msongs]

25. well golly doncha know its done and everyone needs to roll over lol nt

[beastie boy]

27. An intellectually stellar fretort! I am speechless...

[Happy Hoosier]

31. Bernie is selling snake oil.

Tell the people what they want to hear, regardless of the realism of it.

I do wonder what his adoring fans will think if he DOES get elected and accomplishes NONE of that.