Biden says U.S. intelligence should brief campaigns about Russian interference.....😳

[Iamaartist]

Former Vice President Joe Biden said Russia is behind fake Facebook accounts that oppose his candidacy and urged the intelligence community to disclose to Democratic campaigns Russia's efforts to meddle in the 2020 election.
"The Russians don't want me to be the nominee," Biden said on "Face the Nation" in an interview that aired Sunday. "They spent a lot of money on bots on Facebook and they've been taken down, saying Biden is a bad guy. They don't want Biden running."


No one's helping me to try to get the nomination," he said

Senator Bernie Sanders revealed Friday that U.S. officials briefed him roughly a month ago on Moscow's efforts to help his campaign and suggested Russian bots were behind the behavior of so-called "Bernie Bros," the name given to some of his supporters who troll Sanders' detractors.
Biden called for the intelligence community to brief the other presidential candidates on Russia's efforts to interfere in 2020, saying intelligence officials "should inform the rest of us who are running what they told Senator Sanders




I agree with Joe...




https://www.cbsnews.com/news/joe-biden-face-the-nation-us-intelligence-brief-campaigns-russia-interference/

[onecaliberal]

1. I completely agree.

[Iamaartist]

4. K&R

Trump is afraid if Joe becomes president because he will go after all the criminals in the GOP

[lark]

2. I think it's reprehensible that Bernie hid this for 30 days.

Why didn't he tell the truth about what was happening?

[Iamaartist]

5. K&R ,,,the whole thing smells fishy,,,,my opinion

[mr_lebowski]

7. Perhaps he was only told to be on the lookout for spies and infiltrators

Just as Trump and Hillary were told to do the same in 2016.

Oh, and neither of them advertised THAT briefing. Which of course makes sense in Trumps case.

So seems logical to assume that when candidates get such briefings they're told that it's for their own use only in protecting their campaigns.

We don't know for sure what they were told so until I have proof Bernie was told 'Russia Is Helping You Win', and 'It's fine to tell the world', I'm not going to assume ...

[mopinko]

11. natasha bertrand had a tweet the other day that there is no way he was told to keep quiet.

it was posted here. i dont remember what she based that on, but she is def someone i trust on all things intelligence/russia.

[mr_lebowski]

15. Well ... then ... that's almost as good as having been there yourself ... nt

[boston bean]

14. No, he was told russia was working to help him.

[mr_lebowski]

16. So, someone who was there in the private briefing has confirmed what was said?

You're telling me that before the Gang of Eight, or the House or Senate Intel Committees were told ... someone from the IC walked up to Bernie and said outright 'we have evidence Russia is interfering in US elections on your behalf, and you are free to tell the whole world that we gave you this briefing, even though we've informed none of the rest of Congress who's actual job it is to receive such intelligence'?

[boston bean]

23. Yeah Bernie.

[mr_lebowski]

31. I've seen these quotes from WaPo

“In 2016, Russia used Internet propaganda to sow division in our country, and my understanding is that they are doing it again in 2020. Some of the ugly stuff on the Internet attributed to our campaign may well not be coming from real supporters.”

Sanders told reporters Friday after The Post’s report was published that he received the briefing “about a month ago.” Asked why he did not disclose the briefing publicly, Sanders replied, “Because I go to many intelligence briefings which I don’t reveal to the public.”

Sanders offered few details about what officials told him.

“Well, it was not clear what role they’re going to play,” he said, referring to Russia. “We were told that Russia, maybe other countries, are going to get involved in this campaign. And look, here’s the message, to Russia — stay out of American elections.”

So ... his perception is that Russia is hurting his campaign by creating fake supporters who say ugly stuff ... AND he suggests (admittedly doesn't say outright) that what was he was told ... was not appropriate to disclose publicly.

Nowhere does he suggest that 'he knew Russia was trying to help him win'. Creating a bunch of bots or fake accts with real people manning them that act like jackasses is not exactly 'help' in a cut and dry sense.

You got something else?

You know what else is funny is that when Bernie tried to suggest in the past that maybe not all his supporters are 'legit', everyone was all 'ZOMG BULLSHIT' (I know for a fact they're not ALL Russians, myself), or 'He's just saying that cause it's HURTING HIM!' ... now they're "ZOMG WE CAN'T BELIEVE HE DIDN'T TELL US RUSSIANS ARE HELPING HIM!!!"

First off, yeah, he kinda has.

And secondly ... make up your freaking mind. Do these fake Russian supporters HURT HIM, or HELP HIM? Or does it just depend on what's the better spin that day?

[dalton99a]

8. He will tell the truth when he releases the tax returns and medical records

[Tom Rinaldo]

13. Make an issue of medical records if you want, but Sanders did release his tax returns

He did so last April. How could you have missed that?

[OneCrazyDiamond]

25. By medical records do you mean his ejection fraction?

He has already released most of his records.
https://www.salon.com/2020/02/23/bernie-sanders-medical-records-are-very-reassuring-but-a-key-piece-of-information-is-missing_partner/


While none of the top 2020 Democratic candidates for president have released "full" health records, Sen. Elizabeth Warren has provided 5 pages of data along with a letter from her physician, slightly more than what Sanders' campaign has released. However, as CNN's Chief Medical Correspondent Dr. Sanjay Gupta pointed out, the three letters the Sanders campaign has released "do provide the relevant medical information about his overall health, and important details about his heart."
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/02/21/politics/sanders-medical-records-bloomberg-fact-check/index.html

His ejection fraction withholding conspiracy is a right wing talking point and probably should be let go. He may in fact be our nominee against a great evil.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/since-bernie-sanders-had-a-heart-attack-he-owes-the-voters-this-one-piece-of-medical-information?_amp=true


Vote blue

[DENVERPOPS]

18. Because

Same mentality as Trump and Republican Party. Putin is helping me, but it's okay because it helps ME over everyone else.........

Thru history, Bernie has always been, first and foremost: ME ME ME ME.

We need swing voters and new voters to vote Dem...........And Bernie is making more people want to vote for someone else.

After the three piss ant primaries, all we are hearing is: It's a landslide for Bernie, blah blah blah

Those three states, in total, represent doodle.....less than 1% if my math is correct......

Putin is influencing Trump Voters, Putin is pushing for Bernie to win. Doesn't that tell you anything people........??????????

And, the media that is rabble rousing for Bernie is 80% owned by wealthy Republicans. Does that tell you anything?????

[SergeStorms]

21. Stop making sense.

You'll confuse everyone around here.

[rzemanfl]

27. Making sense is so confusing. It upsets folks.

Making up fun stories is so much better.

[Iliyah]

3. Totally agree . . .

[Iamaartist]

6. 👍🏻

[Mike 03]

9. 100% They should also release to the public the "methods" being

used since according to another DUer CNN reported this new interference is not limited to online/social media.

That begs the question, What does the interference consist of???

[Farmer-Rick]

20. Yeah, good question.

I don't like Biden but I agree with him on this issue.

[mopinko]

24. i said at the time his january numbers smelled fishy to me.

he was flagging in the polls, and those surprise big numbers put a lot of wind in his sails.

[Peacetrain]

10. If you stand there and say nothing and take advantage of the

influence attempts by the Russians or anyone.. if it works for you... and then you wait a month to acknowledge it only after being outed by a newspaper and then attack that newspaper..

Seriously...seriously

[denem]

12. "No one's helping me to try to get the nomination"

boy, is that an understatement

[yaesu]

17. there is no US intelligence, the russian agent orange has seen to that. nt

[MerryBlooms]

19. trump is preventing flow of intelligence to congress, no way candidates will be briefed.

[matt819]

22. Then what?

The campaigns already know or believe that the Russians are interfering with the campaign process.

The recent leaks being reported pretty much confirms this.

Are they also meddling in the actual election process as well? Counting votes. As in 2016, we don’t know, and will probably never know, unless there are sources that have reported this to various intelligence agencies around the world, but they will almost certainly not go public with that.

So, what if the campaigns are briefed? What will they do? If “the government“ is not going to do anything substantial about meddling, what is a campaign to do. Do you paragraph and this is where it gets really weird. We may end up with a nominee who has been supported, without his involvement or approval of that interference. And between now and when that happens, we have the remaining candidates for the nomination spending much of their time attacking the issue of Russian interference, as opposed to trump. And their messages get lost in the noise.

And then, of course, you have the other half of the population and the Republican candidate himself whole heartedly endorsing Russian interference. This is the kind of thing the Soviet Union and the US did from the 1950s through the 1980s, before the collapse of the Soviet union. It’s a playbook that Poutney knows very well and on that we have spent decades working on this plan for the destabilization of the US. And with the acquiescence of the former GOP and 60 million republicans, he’s succeeding.

[mopinko]

26. if it's money, you give it back.

like they made clinton/gore do w a few chinese yuan.

it is actually the campaign's responsibility to vet their donors.

[matt819]

28. That's fine as far as it goes

But I’m talking about covert interference. Social media manipulation, deceptive polling, illegal and well hidden funding of PACs, planting fake news, getting unwitting dupes (or witting dupes, for that matter) to get opeds published, and the like.

[KPN]

29. I agree. But good luck with that.

Where are our real patriots in a time of what might be our greatest need? Resignations aren't enough.

Admittedly, it is easy for me to say this. But there are people across the nation who are already becoming desperate about this downward spiral toward a dangerous autocratic State. People are already worried about their own future safety. Their worry is legitimate.

[Captain Zero]

30. I agree with Joe. All AMERICANS should.

nt

[SunSeeker]

32. Fuck yes!

I thought they already had notified the campaigns, but I guess it was just the Sanders campaign and a select few in Congress.

[Iamaartist]

33. K&R... it just gets worst by the min...

[bronxiteforever]

34. Absolutely K&R