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Moderateguy

(945 posts)
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 02:47 PM Feb 2020

We desperately need a brokered convention...

I just do not see how we unite the party otherwise. A brokered convention will force the nominee to pick someone from the other side of the party as the VP candidate.

If Sanders is the nominee and he picks Nina Turner or Tulsi Gabbard, we will be killed in a GE due to turnout

If Biden is the nominee and he picks Bloomberg, we will be killed in the GE due to turnout

The only way forward is a unity ticket between the moderates and the left wing of the party

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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We desperately need a brokered convention... (Original Post) Moderateguy Feb 2020 OP
I appreciate the perspective. David__77 Feb 2020 #1
I don't necessarily agree with your summation Sherman A1 Feb 2020 #2
The election has to run its course. We dont know who will win and who they will pick for a CentralMass Feb 2020 #3
We need a unity ticket for sure. Mister Ed Feb 2020 #4
We hear a lot of talk about the possibility of a brokered convention. But totodeinhere Feb 2020 #5
That could be problematic Moderateguy Feb 2020 #6
A candidate can withdraw and release their delegates. That would be consistent with the rules. totodeinhere Feb 2020 #7
That is what I said Moderateguy Feb 2020 #8
 

David__77

(23,382 posts)
1. I appreciate the perspective.
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 02:48 PM
Feb 2020

...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
2. I don't necessarily agree with your summation
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 02:49 PM
Feb 2020

but don't see a brokered convention as all that bad a thing. One upside is that Trump won't know who he is running against until the last minute making life just a little bit harder for him and his playmates.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
3. The election has to run its course. We dont know who will win and who they will pick for a
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 02:52 PM
Feb 2020

running mate.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Mister Ed

(5,931 posts)
4. We need a unity ticket for sure.
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 03:14 PM
Feb 2020

I don't know that a brokered convention is the best way to achieve that, but all candidates please take note: without a unity ticket, your campaign is likely to fall short of victory.

And there's just too much at stake.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
5. We hear a lot of talk about the possibility of a brokered convention. But
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 03:20 PM
Feb 2020

I don't think it's likely. There is a reason why we haven't had a brokered convention since 1952. I think there are two likely scenarios. Either Bernie gets 50% +1 or he gets close enough to a majority that he is able to negotiate for support from one or more of the other candidates that will be enough to put him over the top. Perhaps Senator Warren or Mayor Pete could be persuaded to throw their support to Bernie in exchange for the VP nomination.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Moderateguy

(945 posts)
6. That could be problematic
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 03:30 PM
Feb 2020

Delegates are only pledged to their initial candidate. In your scenario, there would be no compulsion for Warren or Pete's delegates to vote for Sanders. The nominee needs 1990 delegates on the first ballot. So there would have to be accounting for a percentage of delegates not switching over to their initial candidate's preferred choice. That is why it is a brokered convention if no one wins on the first round of balloting.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
7. A candidate can withdraw and release their delegates. That would be consistent with the rules.
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 03:33 PM
Feb 2020

Under that scenario release delegates would be free to vote for whomever they want but at least some of them would probably go to Bernie and that might be enough to put him over the top.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Moderateguy

(945 posts)
8. That is what I said
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 03:35 PM
Feb 2020

If there is one Candidate besides Biden who has enough delegates to put Sanders over the top (accounting for attrition) this works but right now the delegate math is not showing such a candidate.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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