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Music Man

(1,181 posts)
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 03:02 PM Feb 2020

If Sanders wins the nomination, I don't see how his VP can be anyone but Warren.

I have a few reasons for my thinking:

1. The Sanders movement has garnered an atmosphere of ideological purity. Nothing in Sanders' nature tells me his tack will be to pick a moderate to "balance the ticket" but someone who at least approximates his policies (i.e. Warren). Sanders' centerpiece proposals (namely, Medicare for All) are departures from the typical Democratic platform, and I can't envision him choosing a running mate who has been directly critical of his most distinctive ideas.

2. Similarly, Sanders would be 79 when elected, and whether we want to think about it or not, the possibility of him dying or becoming incapacitated in office is quite real. Someone of Sanders' politics being elected is rare, and I am confident he and his advisers want someone of similar thinking to carry out his work. Though Warren would be 71, it is a difference, and she more than anyone else has the shared philosophy, smarts, and government experience to fight for his agenda.

3. After Hillary Clinton's loss, and after nearly 250 years of male chief executives, I think there would be disappointment with an all-male ticket. You can't have *every* minority group represented in a group of two candidates, but two white men would feel like a step backward. I could see Julian Castro being considered (he was anyway with Clinton). Some discussion of Stacey Abrams, as well, from many people, but I have a hard time seeing people getting excited about someone who just lost their last race.

4. Above all, Warren is a strong, quick-witted fighter, with progressive bonafides. The prospect of her going head-to-head with Mike Pence would be exciting. She is a pick that would fire up Democrats.

Reasonable minds can disagree, of course. Other qualified VP's are out there, and there is undoubtedly the charges of "most liberal ticket ever" with which to contend. But when I think most logically, I don't see how it can be anyone other than Warren.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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If Sanders wins the nomination, I don't see how his VP can be anyone but Warren. (Original Post) Music Man Feb 2020 OP
I think his choice of senior staff says everything. ehrnst Feb 2020 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author NurseJackie Feb 2020 #4
Needs to be a POC in my opinion. African American females are the backbone of our party. OrlandoDem2 Feb 2020 #2
Kamala Harris or Stacey Abrams, if Bernie could tolerate The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #10
We want the Senate to turn blue. Sanders and Harris would be leaving the Senate. Eyeball_Kid Feb 2020 #62
California. Harris' successor would be a Democrat but Bernie's wouldn't be. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #66
I think Vermont holds a special election to fill a Senate vacancy democrattotheend Feb 2020 #71
Harris' seat would automatically be filled by another Dem. OliverQ Feb 2020 #70
Not going to happen rusty fender Feb 2020 #3
That's bullshit CentralMass Feb 2020 #5
He called her a liar on national TV. Happy Hoosier Feb 2020 #11
No he didn't. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2020 #17
YES, HE DID! Certainly Liz thought so.... Happy Hoosier Feb 2020 #20
The "Chosen One" WTH? RazBerryBeret Feb 2020 #77
Of course he did not. No more than she called him a liar, which she didn't. David__77 Feb 2020 #33
Oh please. He did not. Bonobo Feb 2020 #67
re: "Bernie hates her" -- Source? n/t thesquanderer Feb 2020 #19
Yup, it's going to be Turner or Gabbard.. Callado119 Feb 2020 #41
They used to be good friends democrattotheend Feb 2020 #72
A left/Left ticket will cause a lot of moderate democrats to stay home... Moderateguy Feb 2020 #6
No way he picks a "moderate" Happy Hoosier Feb 2020 #13
she cant stand him... samnsara Feb 2020 #7
LBJ couldn't stand JFK. n/t Peregrine Took Feb 2020 #16
re: "she cant stand him..." -- Source? n/t thesquanderer Feb 2020 #21
+1 Celerity Feb 2020 #50
They actually have been friends for years The empressof all Feb 2020 #43
As much as I would love to see them together on the ticket Mariana Feb 2020 #75
I'd be OK with that. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #8
What actuarial life tables are you using? Shermann Feb 2020 #56
Probably ones adjusted for having a heart attack unc70 Feb 2020 #68
Sounds good to me (if she is not the nominee) . A lot of excitement from that combo but lunasun Feb 2020 #9
I'm not sure she brings anything to Sanders in the Electoral College. LaurenOlimina Feb 2020 #12
If he nominates Gabbard.... Happy Hoosier Feb 2020 #15
Me too. LaurenOlimina Feb 2020 #26
Lmao BeyondGeography Feb 2020 #29
I'm ABB, but even I'd be on board with Sanders/Warren. Qutzupalotl Feb 2020 #54
I believe he should choose Mayor Pete ripcord Feb 2020 #14
two white guys? Happy Hoosier Feb 2020 #18
So a Jewish and gay ticket would not be sufficiently diverse? (n/t) thesquanderer Feb 2020 #24
I'm stating that in THIS case... Happy Hoosier Feb 2020 #32
So you automatically dismiss a gay VP candidate as just another white guy? ripcord Feb 2020 #28
Well, he WON'T pick Hillary Clinton. That I can say with certainty. n/t Laelth Feb 2020 #22
It seems he doesnt have many options.. VarryOn Feb 2020 #23
Biden is the landslide victory choice for VP. Prosper Feb 2020 #25
It would be a reckless choice. Two people pushing 80 years old. Any candidate over 70 needs to still_one Feb 2020 #36
Great, two guys born in the Roosevelt administration. LaurenOlimina Feb 2020 #37
Elizabeth Warren will not be Sanders VP. She can do a lot more good in the Senate where she's octoberlib Feb 2020 #27
Or Nina Turner if she can remove her lips from his @ss long enough. Nt helpisontheway Feb 2020 #74
Two people from the Northeast? still_one Feb 2020 #30
Geographically undesirable, elleng Feb 2020 #31
Stacey Abrams begs to differ. LonePirate Feb 2020 #34
That would be a good choice. still_one Feb 2020 #38
she is my first choice for VP for all the male candidates, from Bloomberg to Bernie Celerity Feb 2020 #52
I love Warren but I want her for Secy of Treasury. I don't think two people from Nanjeanne Feb 2020 #35
I would love to see Tammy Duckworth of IL MerryBlooms Feb 2020 #39
If he was smart, he'd pick her. She will do more for him to get things done Vivienne235729 Feb 2020 #40
Who he chooses is going to go a long way towards how I feel about his candidacy ... mr_lebowski Feb 2020 #42
My reasons for disagreeing Clash City Rocker Feb 2020 #44
I don't see how Bernie chooses someone who has been calling him Mr. Pipe Dream all campaign BeyondGeography Feb 2020 #45
Reagan chose the guy who coined the term Voodoo Economics to be his VP Clash City Rocker Feb 2020 #49
There are exceptions, but candidates don't generally choose someone running against them as VP MichMan Feb 2020 #46
He say hinted evertonfc Feb 2020 #47
Jill Stein might be available. TheCowsCameHome Feb 2020 #48
He's already strong on the environment. Shermann Feb 2020 #58
I bet it's Tulsi Gabbard, Keith Ellison or Abdul El Sayed. RandySF Feb 2020 #51
Ellison might not be a bad pick democrattotheend Feb 2020 #73
I'd like Castro. JFlash Feb 2020 #53
Makes sense on paper, but it would never happen. tandem5 Feb 2020 #55
Besides Turner and Gabbard, who'd want the job? lamp_shade Feb 2020 #57
Jill Stein? NurseJackie Feb 2020 #60
I'll say no for one reason only: Eyeball_Kid Feb 2020 #59
No geographic and ideological balance Dem4Life1102 Feb 2020 #61
Will his supporters make Sanders/Snake2020 signs, Codeine Feb 2020 #63
This message was self-deleted by its author Aaron Pereira Feb 2020 #64
I also think Warren would be the best choice for a Sanders ticket. nsd Feb 2020 #65
I would love a Sanders/Warren ticket OliverQ Feb 2020 #69
Might be why she beats up on everyone but him ALBliberal Feb 2020 #76
I've always pushed for a POC on the ticket. cilla4progress Feb 2020 #78
She probably makes sense... VarryOn Feb 2020 #79
Perfect ticket, although I also like Harris. nt Laffy Kat Feb 2020 #80
Picking a Warren MFM008 Feb 2020 #81
pete or warren good. no kaine type please. he could pick an actual hispanic. pansypoo53219 Feb 2020 #82
Stunningly bad idea. Squinch Feb 2020 #83
His cultists would never allow an "establishment" Dem they all despise... Blue_Tires Feb 2020 #84
I don't see anything Warren brings to his ticket, and I say that as a Warren voter Recursion Feb 2020 #85
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
1. I think his choice of senior staff says everything.
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 03:05 PM
Feb 2020

And it doesn't point to Warren being a choice.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to ehrnst (Reply #1)

 

OrlandoDem2

(2,064 posts)
2. Needs to be a POC in my opinion. African American females are the backbone of our party.
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 03:06 PM
Feb 2020

They need to be given a reason to vote in huge numbers,
besides voting against Trump.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,276 posts)
10. Kamala Harris or Stacey Abrams, if Bernie could tolerate
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 03:11 PM
Feb 2020

their ideological impurities.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Eyeball_Kid

(7,410 posts)
62. We want the Senate to turn blue. Sanders and Harris would be leaving the Senate.
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 05:24 PM
Feb 2020

That's not good.

Perhaps Harris' home state can come up with a Dem successor to Harris, so it might not make a difference.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,276 posts)
66. California. Harris' successor would be a Democrat but Bernie's wouldn't be.
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 11:55 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
71. I think Vermont holds a special election to fill a Senate vacancy
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 01:04 AM
Feb 2020

The Republican governor would appoint a replacement but only for a short time.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
70. Harris' seat would automatically be filled by another Dem.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 12:09 AM
Feb 2020

Bernie's would temporarily go to a Republican probably until the election and then a Dem would likely be elected to take Sanders' spot.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

rusty fender

(3,428 posts)
3. Not going to happen
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 03:06 PM
Feb 2020

Bernie hates her, and she accused him of lying about her.

There’s lots of speculation that Gabbard will be his VP, but I’m hoping his pick won’t be toxic

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Happy Hoosier

(7,077 posts)
11. He called her a liar on national TV.
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 03:12 PM
Feb 2020

Tough to come back from, IMO.

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Happy Hoosier

(7,077 posts)
20. YES, HE DID! Certainly Liz thought so....
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 03:16 PM
Feb 2020

But hey, anything to protect the Chosen One, I guess.

And folks wonder why some of his can't stomach his campaign...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

RazBerryBeret

(3,075 posts)
77. The "Chosen One" WTH?
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 01:49 AM
Feb 2020

a lot of folks are wondering about a lot of things....

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

David__77

(23,218 posts)
33. Of course he did not. No more than she called him a liar, which she didn't.
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 03:19 PM
Feb 2020

...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Bonobo

(29,257 posts)
67. Oh please. He did not.
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 11:58 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

thesquanderer

(11,954 posts)
19. re: "Bernie hates her" -- Source? n/t
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 03:15 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Callado119

(171 posts)
41. Yup, it's going to be Turner or Gabbard..
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 03:24 PM
Feb 2020

..or some other unqualified loyalist...

If I were to vote in a presidential
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democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
72. They used to be good friends
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 01:04 AM
Feb 2020

IDK if their relationship has been too strained by now or not though.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Moderateguy

(945 posts)
6. A left/Left ticket will cause a lot of moderate democrats to stay home...
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 03:07 PM
Feb 2020

We CANNOT afford that. It has to be a balanced ticket, no matter who the nominee is

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

Happy Hoosier

(7,077 posts)
13. No way he picks a "moderate"
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 03:12 PM
Feb 2020

That kind of coalition building is just not in his personal make-up IMO.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

samnsara

(17,570 posts)
7. she cant stand him...
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 03:08 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Peregrine Took

(7,408 posts)
16. LBJ couldn't stand JFK. n/t
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 03:14 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

thesquanderer

(11,954 posts)
21. re: "she cant stand him..." -- Source? n/t
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 03:16 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

The empressof all

(29,098 posts)
43. They actually have been friends for years
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 03:26 PM
Feb 2020

She has mentioned that several times during the debate. My hunch is she won't be his VP. Just a feeling not rooted in anything in particular. I also believe that she would be the best unity candidate if it comes to a second ballot during the convention.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Mariana

(14,849 posts)
75. As much as I would love to see them together on the ticket
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 01:43 AM
Feb 2020

having two old, white New Englanders as running mates is probably not the best way to go.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,276 posts)
8. I'd be OK with that.
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 03:09 PM
Feb 2020

Odds are that he won’t complete a full term (sorry, but those are the stats), meaning his VP gets his job. Warren is probably more acceptable to the many voters who wouldn’t want to vote for a socialist, but if they could be comforted by the presence of a rational capitalist like Warren they would be less put off by him.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Shermann

(7,355 posts)
56. What actuarial life tables are you using?
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 04:59 PM
Feb 2020

The life expectancy of a 79-year-old male is 8.88 years.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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unc70

(6,095 posts)
68. Probably ones adjusted for having a heart attack
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 12:06 AM
Feb 2020

Having a recent heart attack significantly reduces life expectancy. Roughly cuts it in half

If I were to vote in a presidential
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lunasun

(21,646 posts)
9. Sounds good to me (if she is not the nominee) . A lot of excitement from that combo but
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 03:11 PM
Feb 2020

first first he has to win the nomination

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

LaurenOlimina

(1,165 posts)
12. I'm not sure she brings anything to Sanders in the Electoral College.
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 03:12 PM
Feb 2020

I'm thinking Stacy Abrams. I have a friend that says Tulsi Gabbard, but that seems insane to me.

But believe me, a Sanders/Warren ticket is one I'd get behind.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Happy Hoosier

(7,077 posts)
15. If he nominates Gabbard....
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 03:13 PM
Feb 2020

I am going to have to get really, REALLY drunk before casting my ballot.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LaurenOlimina

(1,165 posts)
26. Me too.
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 03:17 PM
Feb 2020

I'm not sure I can.

Bloomberg and Gabbard are showstoppers for me.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Qutzupalotl

(14,230 posts)
54. I'm ABB, but even I'd be on board with Sanders/Warren.
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 04:50 PM
Feb 2020

It’s the thought of that dead-eyed zombie Assad appeaser Gabbard a heart attack from the presidency that gives me the creeps.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ripcord

(5,084 posts)
14. I believe he should choose Mayor Pete
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 03:12 PM
Feb 2020

Not only is he a young candidate with a lot of potential but choosing a moderate would help sooth things in the party before the general election.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Happy Hoosier

(7,077 posts)
18. two white guys?
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 03:14 PM
Feb 2020

Women of color are the backbone of this party. If the nominee is not a woman or persona of color (or both), I think that would be a bad move.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

thesquanderer

(11,954 posts)
24. So a Jewish and gay ticket would not be sufficiently diverse? (n/t)
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 03:17 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Happy Hoosier

(7,077 posts)
32. I'm stating that in THIS case...
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 03:19 PM
Feb 2020

It's important to acknowledge the importance of people of color and women in our coalition. Personally, I think having a woman on the ticket is incredibly important this cycle.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ripcord

(5,084 posts)
28. So you automatically dismiss a gay VP candidate as just another white guy?
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 03:18 PM
Feb 2020

I'm sorry but I would consider a gay VP to be real progress.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
22. Well, he WON'T pick Hillary Clinton. That I can say with certainty. n/t
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 03:16 PM
Feb 2020


-Laelth
If I were to vote in a presidential
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VarryOn

(2,343 posts)
23. It seems he doesnt have many options..
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 03:16 PM
Feb 2020

But, I hadn't thought of Julian Castro. He might make sense, along with Warren and Abrams. Abrams and Castro don't appear to be that busy, so they'd probably be up for taking 3-4 months.

I don't know about Watren, though. I just don't think they like each other, but maybe that doesnt matter.

What about de Blasio or Keith Ellison?

Apart from the three names we mentioned, I'm hard-pressed coming up with other names.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Prosper

(761 posts)
25. Biden is the landslide victory choice for VP.
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 03:17 PM
Feb 2020

That would answer all objections.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

still_one

(91,951 posts)
36. It would be a reckless choice. Two people pushing 80 years old. Any candidate over 70 needs to
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 03:21 PM
Feb 2020

choose a younger candidate as their VP

If I were to vote in a presidential
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LaurenOlimina

(1,165 posts)
37. Great, two guys born in the Roosevelt administration.
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 03:21 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
27. Elizabeth Warren will not be Sanders VP. She can do a lot more good in the Senate where she's
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 03:17 PM
Feb 2020

actually productive. It'll probably be Gabbard, Cornel West or maybe Susan Sarandon. I'll be surprised if it's anybody from the "Democratic establishment".

If I were to vote in a presidential
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helpisontheway

(5,004 posts)
74. Or Nina Turner if she can remove her lips from his @ss long enough. Nt
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 01:11 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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still_one

(91,951 posts)
30. Two people from the Northeast?
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 03:18 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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elleng

(130,136 posts)
31. Geographically undesirable,
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 03:19 PM
Feb 2020

wrap up New England?

If I were to vote in a presidential
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LonePirate

(13,386 posts)
34. Stacey Abrams begs to differ.
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 03:20 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

still_one

(91,951 posts)
38. That would be a good choice.
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 03:22 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Celerity

(42,652 posts)
52. she is my first choice for VP for all the male candidates, from Bloomberg to Bernie
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 04:47 PM
Feb 2020

Pete, Steyer, and Biden as well.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

Nanjeanne

(4,878 posts)
35. I love Warren but I want her for Secy of Treasury. I don't think two people from
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 03:20 PM
Feb 2020

East Coast who are 70 and above are a good idea.

Ideally, I think Tammy Baldwin would be a great pick. Progressive. From Wisconsin. Gay. 58 years old.

I’d like Chris Murphy for Secy of State

Barbara Lee as maybe Health and Human Services

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

MerryBlooms

(11,728 posts)
39. I would love to see Tammy Duckworth of IL
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 03:22 PM
Feb 2020

Not sure how safe her seat is, but she's always been a favorite of mine. I think she would not only make an incredible VP, but President some day.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Vivienne235729

(3,373 posts)
40. If he was smart, he'd pick her. She will do more for him to get things done
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 03:24 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
42. Who he chooses is going to go a long way towards how I feel about his candidacy ...
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 03:26 PM
Feb 2020

He BETTER FCKING CHOOSE SOMEONE MODERATE.

Preferably female and/or minority.

Not because I wouldn't love Liz as VP, cause I would.

But because we need to win.

I would HOPE ... he legit wants to win himself.

That's the only way he has a shot in hell.

He better recognize that.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Clash City Rocker

(3,379 posts)
44. My reasons for disagreeing
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 03:27 PM
Feb 2020

1. I think Warren is smarter than that. She can see that Sanders has no electoral path to victory in the GE. I don’t think she wants to be this generation’s Geraldine Ferraro.

2. The Democratic field is a big tent. Two far left candidates running together are going to alienate many Democratic moderates, who are particularly important in purple states.

3. The Democratic base is younger and more racially diverse than the Republican base. Two white septuagenarians are unlikely to be excite middle aged or minority voters.

4. They represent the same section of the country, so Bernie wouldn’t even gain votes there. A successful ticket requires more diversity than a Sanders/Warren ticket would provide.

Bernie’s only hope would be to choose a running mate who appeals more to moderates and another section of the country. Klobuchar would be a good choice. I don’t think he’ll make such a choice, but then I think he can’t beat Trump in any case. Trump just has to keep saying “socialist” and he’ll win in a landslide.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BeyondGeography

(39,282 posts)
45. I don't see how Bernie chooses someone who has been calling him Mr. Pipe Dream all campaign
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 03:41 PM
Feb 2020

Not that I blame her either.

Bernie rides on enthusiasm. So I think we can forget an eat-your-peas running mate like Amy.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Clash City Rocker

(3,379 posts)
49. Reagan chose the guy who coined the term Voodoo Economics to be his VP
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 04:34 PM
Feb 2020

Hillary went after Obama heavily in the primaries and then became his Secretary of State. Strange bedfellows and all that.

But it’s true, I don’t know why most Democratic politicians would want to be on that ticket.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MichMan

(11,787 posts)
46. There are exceptions, but candidates don't generally choose someone running against them as VP
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 03:57 PM
Feb 2020

I know Biden was Obama's VP pick, but I don't know why everyone thinks that it has to be someone that is/was currently running for the nomination. If you look back historically, it usually isn't the case.

I also understand the appeal of Abrams to many, but IMO her resume is pretty light at this time. Same with Pete. I think both have a lot of potential and a huge upside, but they need to hold a higher office first.

Any thoughts of Sanders selecting someone like Rashida Tlaib?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

evertonfc

(1,713 posts)
47. He say hinted
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 04:24 PM
Feb 2020

that it would most likely be a woman. My guess is someone much younger. I would like to see someone from southwest or southeast but it's hard to say

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TheCowsCameHome

(40,161 posts)
48. Jill Stein might be available.
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 04:25 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Shermann

(7,355 posts)
58. He's already strong on the environment.
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 05:00 PM
Feb 2020

Too much overlap.

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RandySF

(57,632 posts)
51. I bet it's Tulsi Gabbard, Keith Ellison or Abdul El Sayed.
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 04:47 PM
Feb 2020
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democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
73. Ellison might not be a bad pick
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 01:08 AM
Feb 2020

It would give the ticket some balance in terms of race. I know some people wouldn't vote for a Muslim for VP, but most of those people won't vote for a socialist anyway. Besides, like with the socialist thing, Republicans have already "cried wolf" by spending 8 years calling Obama a socialist and a Muslim, even though he was neither. Since a lot of people mistakenly think Obama was a socialist and a Muslim, they're probably less scared by having a real socialist and a real Muslim on the ticket.

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JFlash

(51 posts)
53. I'd like Castro.
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 04:50 PM
Feb 2020

Warren persistently polls a point or two worse than Bernie in head to head matchups with the Orange demagogue.

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tandem5

(2,072 posts)
55. Makes sense on paper, but it would never happen.
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 04:59 PM
Feb 2020

Anybody running for president has a big ego, but he drives his populist message through personality -- he'll never choose anybody that has the slightest chance of outshining him. Look no further than the "not me, us" rhetoric. If it's truly us then who's "me" and why is he telling us what to do?

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lamp_shade

(14,796 posts)
57. Besides Turner and Gabbard, who'd want the job?
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 04:59 PM
Feb 2020
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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
60. Jill Stein?
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 05:23 PM
Feb 2020

Or someone else just as offensive and divisive. I can think of several others right off the top of my head.

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Eyeball_Kid

(7,410 posts)
59. I'll say no for one reason only:
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 05:21 PM
Feb 2020

A successful election will mean that the Dems will have lost TWO Senate seats. That's a risk that the Dems can't take.

Oops! I also have a caveat: who can feel good about a President Sanders who would be sworn in at 79 years old? For all of you who are not in your 70s, you don't know the actual, concrete, and very personal effects of aging. But Sanders will turn 80 in his second year in office. There are three frontrunning Dem candidates who, if elected, will be approaching or IN their 80s by the end of the first term. IMO, that's too damned old for the most demanding job on Earth, and I'm not far behind all of them.

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Dem4Life1102

(3,974 posts)
61. No geographic and ideological balance
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 05:24 PM
Feb 2020
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Codeine

(25,586 posts)
63. Will his supporters make Sanders/Snake2020 signs,
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 05:28 PM
Feb 2020

or just settle for a snake emoji for maximum childishness? Inquiring minds want to know!

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nsd

(2,406 posts)
65. I also think Warren would be the best choice for a Sanders ticket.
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 05:51 PM
Feb 2020

Sanders wouldn't be a conventional nominee, He is -- famously -- not an insider or part of the Democratic establishment. For him to do the conventional thing and pick a moderate, ticket-balancing running mate (say, Amy Klobuchar) would seem false and would damage his brand. It would make him look like an ordinary politician. But to win this thing in November, Sanders has to go all out and go big -- he's an outsider, a break from the elites; he represents something new; he'll stick it to The Man.

Warren reinforces this message in a way that hardly anyone else does. Thinking conventionally, it's a gamble -- but, again, Sanders wouldn't be a conventional nominee.

Warren has the additional benefit of being a plausible president in her own right. If Sanders were to drop dead the day after the Inauguration, it's not hard at all to imagine Warren carrying on without missing a beat. She has the right CV and gravitas to take over on day one. (Some of the other people mentioned in this thread -- namely, Stacey Abrams and Julian Castro -- simply do not have either, in my opinion.)

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OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
69. I would love a Sanders/Warren ticket
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 12:08 AM
Feb 2020

However, wouldn't picking a young moderate be a better option?

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ALBliberal

(2,304 posts)
76. Might be why she beats up on everyone but him
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 01:49 AM
Feb 2020

That being said.... is she doing the right thing for our country. The moderates support pooled together is more than Bernie support on his own.

That being said again... I’m more comfortable with Sanders/Warren than say Sanders/Gabbard.

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cilla4progress

(24,587 posts)
78. I've always pushed for a POC on the ticket.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 02:00 AM
Feb 2020

but I think it's also important to see who they are supporting, while not a monolith.

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VarryOn

(2,343 posts)
79. She probably makes sense...
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 02:13 AM
Feb 2020

I've spent more time this afternoon than I should trying to come up with a VP candidate, and I can't come up with one. It has to be a woman and preferably a POC. I think Warren qualifies.

I'd put Gabbard on the list. Yes, Gabbard. And why not Sotomayor. She'd be good.

I'd put a Abrams on that list, nothwithstanding her losing pretty badly.

Others worthy of consideration would be Kamala Harris, Elizabeth Warren, and Amy Klobachar. Michelle Obama, Hillary Clinton, and Nancy Pelosi would be worth candidates. All these women need serious consideration!

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Laffy Kat

(16,354 posts)
80. Perfect ticket, although I also like Harris. nt
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 02:16 AM
Feb 2020
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MFM008

(19,776 posts)
81. Picking a Warren
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 04:01 AM
Feb 2020

Or Harris makes me feel better
About him.
Picking AOC will make me move to Canada.

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pansypoo53219

(20,906 posts)
82. pete or warren good. no kaine type please. he could pick an actual hispanic.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 06:23 AM
Feb 2020
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Squinch

(50,773 posts)
83. Stunningly bad idea.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 08:02 AM
Feb 2020
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Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
84. His cultists would never allow an "establishment" Dem they all despise...
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 08:07 AM
Feb 2020

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They'll demand he bring aboard someone like Tulsi... Mark my words

EDIT: Nevermind the fact that two New Englanders at the top of the ticket would be the single stupidest fucking thing in the history of politics... Which is probably exactly why it would become reality.

The Sanders campaign hasn't listened to me yet, but if by some miracle they get this nomination, they could help themselves greatly by offering a olive branch to all the black voters who feel insulted, ignored and disaffected by getting Kamala on the team.

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Joe Biden
 

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
85. I don't see anything Warren brings to his ticket, and I say that as a Warren voter
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 03:16 AM
Feb 2020

Somebody young, brown, and western. Castro maybe.

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