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Peacetrain

(22,875 posts)
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 05:53 PM Feb 2020

If Sen Sanders does get the nod.. the Democratic Party will vote for him

There has only been on candidate whose campaign leadership voted for a third party when that candidate did not win!!

All other assertions are a DISQUALIFICATION

just saying



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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If Sen Sanders does get the nod.. the Democratic Party will vote for him (Original Post) Peacetrain Feb 2020 OP
Moderate Republicans will not. I know several people moderate AJT Feb 2020 #1
They absolutely will not..and Independents.. Peacetrain Feb 2020 #2
Not enough to worry about. Bear Creek Feb 2020 #11
Sanders would lose some moderate Republicans, but he would gain some... thesquanderer Feb 2020 #24
Nobody in my family will vote for him... they have told me so. NurseJackie Feb 2020 #25
Gallup poll data says 53% if voters will not vote for a socialist. https://www.usnews.com/news/ele shutterbug-gal Feb 2020 #29
I will he is 1000% better than Trump. nt doc03 Feb 2020 #3
We all will..unfortunately Peacetrain Feb 2020 #7
I don't sense a total commitment in the mix...for Bernie... FarPoint Feb 2020 #4
The moderates are turning into Bernie Busters right John Fante Feb 2020 #8
Bernie's new TV ad shows workers with message "betrayed by Trump" Liberty Belle Feb 2020 #5
People will weigh his proposals and how they will be affected bucolic_frolic Feb 2020 #6
Not to mention the Democratic base ( African Americans ) will not be enthusiastic. jaysunb Feb 2020 #14
Not necessarily wyldwolf Feb 2020 #9
There is just not enough Party Democrats to single handedly Peacetrain Feb 2020 #12
It's a legitimate fear wyldwolf Feb 2020 #15
I will. But lots of Democrats won't. Squinch Feb 2020 #10
You got that right, Peacetrain! Cha Feb 2020 #13
Its going to be a full on hard slog Cha Peacetrain Feb 2020 #17
BS doesn't deserve to be the Democratic Cha Feb 2020 #19
AMen to that Peacetrain Feb 2020 #20
I agree musette_sf Feb 2020 #35
we here at DU are a VERY SMALL section of the democratic party Moderateguy Feb 2020 #16
I know, I know.. Peacetrain Feb 2020 #18
Right. Cha Feb 2020 #21
Don't forget what they sent out on the eve of Election Day to kneecap the nominee: dalton99a Feb 2020 #22
And he hired that SOB back.. Peacetrain Feb 2020 #23
That was his attempt to unify the party still_one Feb 2020 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author apcalc Feb 2020 #31
No nominee can be expected to win every state. kentuck Feb 2020 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author apcalc Feb 2020 #28
BUT NOT THE SWING STATE VOTERS WE NEED EveHammond13 Feb 2020 #30
But does that assume that the Bernie voters will automatically vote for the "moderate" candidate? kentuck Feb 2020 #32
Perhaps we are too fractured to offer resistance. Happy Hoosier Feb 2020 #36
Post removed Post removed Feb 2020 #33
Your 1st post to DU left-of-center2012 Feb 2020 #34
 

AJT

(5,240 posts)
1. Moderate Republicans will not. I know several people moderate
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 05:57 PM
Feb 2020

Republicans who either voted for Hillary or left the presidential choice blank, they would vote for Biden but never for Bernie.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Peacetrain

(22,875 posts)
2. They absolutely will not..and Independents..
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 06:00 PM
Feb 2020

We will lose to Trump.. my biggest fear.. all the oppo will drop on Sen Sanders head like a ton of bricks.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Bear Creek

(883 posts)
11. Not enough to worry about.
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 06:10 PM
Feb 2020

That is why democrats lose. Running republicans as candidates and worried about republican votes. They will not vote for Warren by the way. I think Bloomberg is running because he is afraid Elizabeth will win.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

thesquanderer

(11,986 posts)
24. Sanders would lose some moderate Republicans, but he would gain some...
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 06:32 PM
Feb 2020

...of the anti-establishment shake-things-up voters who went for Trump last time, not because they were so happy with Trump but because they saw him as closer to what they wanted than a mainstream establishment figure like Hillary. I think it is unclear as to which of these two groups are bigger... moderate non-Dems who would vote for a moderate Dem like Biden (but not Sanders), vs. non-mainstream types who would cross back to Sanders (but not Biden).

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
25. Nobody in my family will vote for him... they have told me so.
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 06:42 PM
Feb 2020

They'd rather see Trump win than turn the party over to Bernie... if that gives you any idea.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

doc03

(35,332 posts)
3. I will he is 1000% better than Trump. nt
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 06:01 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Peacetrain

(22,875 posts)
7. We all will..unfortunately
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 06:04 PM
Feb 2020

there is just not enough of us in particular states to pull him over the line..

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

FarPoint

(12,354 posts)
4. I don't sense a total commitment in the mix...for Bernie...
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 06:03 PM
Feb 2020

I myself, feel sluggish with Bernie...I have never missed an election! Always voted Democratic...always....This time, I find it extremely hard to find inspiration to vote., if Bernie is the nominee/candidate...I probably will...but doubt those who are not as invested as I have been will just...stay home....It is a realistic concern.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

John Fante

(3,479 posts)
8. The moderates are turning into Bernie Busters right
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 06:07 PM
Feb 2020

before our eyes. This sucks.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Liberty Belle

(9,535 posts)
5. Bernie's new TV ad shows workers with message "betrayed by Trump"
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 06:03 PM
Feb 2020

I saw it last night. Looks like he is trying to win disaffected Trump voters, the ones who may not be religious zealots or bigots, but who voted for Trump because factories closed, their rust belt jobs went away, or they're just strugglng in low wages jobs or unemployed.

That could be an effective strategy for him.

Ultra conservatives are not going to vote Dem if you ran the Pope, but pushing an economic message for the many who are not doing well in the Trump economy could be his best best if he is the nominee.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bucolic_frolic

(43,153 posts)
6. People will weigh his proposals and how they will be affected
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 06:04 PM
Feb 2020

Catering to millennials with money and programs will alienate senior voters. He will have to say how he will pay for it, and voters will have to decide if they're ok with that, and judge if he can pass it through the Democratic Establishment in Congress.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

jaysunb

(11,856 posts)
14. Not to mention the Democratic base ( African Americans ) will not be enthusiastic.
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 06:14 PM
Feb 2020

Just like with Clinton, older folks will go.along with the nomiinee, the younger generation will ignore the elections.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

wyldwolf

(43,867 posts)
9. Not necessarily
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 06:08 PM
Feb 2020

A Democratic candidate doesn't lose 49 and 44 states, respectively, if Democrats believed their horse in the races were the better choices.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Peacetrain

(22,875 posts)
12. There is just not enough Party Democrats to single handedly
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 06:10 PM
Feb 2020

pull him over the line.. that is my fear..

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

wyldwolf

(43,867 posts)
15. It's a legitimate fear
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 06:15 PM
Feb 2020

Nixon, in '72, and Reagan, in '80, won A LOT of Democrats. A LOT of them. Along with Independents. People say the fear of another Trump term will motivate people to vote for Bernie. That's isn't a forgone conclusion. Some Democrats believe another Republican term is tolerable if it means getting a better option in 4 years.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Squinch

(50,949 posts)
10. I will. But lots of Democrats won't.
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 06:10 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(297,196 posts)
13. You got that right, Peacetrain!
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 06:12 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Peacetrain

(22,875 posts)
17. Its going to be a full on hard slog Cha
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 06:17 PM
Feb 2020

especially with Sanders and his campaign leadership attacking the Democratic Party full time.. voting against Hillary and rehire the same people.. I still have full faith that we can actually get a Democrat to lead the party..

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(297,196 posts)
19. BS doesn't deserve to be the Democratic
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 06:19 PM
Feb 2020

nominee.

Hanging in there..

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Moderateguy

(945 posts)
16. we here at DU are a VERY SMALL section of the democratic party
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 06:16 PM
Feb 2020

We will all definitely vote blue no matter what. The problem is that a lot of democrats in Congress and state legislatures will have to campaign against Bernie to try and keep their seats. I would not be shocked if there were ads by democratic candidates saying they would NOT support the Sanders agenda.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Peacetrain

(22,875 posts)
18. I know, I know..
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 06:19 PM
Feb 2020

All those people we got back in red areas in 2018..there is no coattail for them in the Sanders campaign..

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

dalton99a

(81,485 posts)
22. Don't forget what they sent out on the eve of Election Day to kneecap the nominee:
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 06:21 PM
Feb 2020



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Peacetrain

(22,875 posts)
23. And he hired that SOB back..
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 06:23 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

still_one

(92,189 posts)
26. That was his attempt to unify the party
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 06:48 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to dalton99a (Reply #22)

 

kentuck

(111,092 posts)
27. No nominee can be expected to win every state.
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 06:49 PM
Feb 2020

At least, if history is any indication.

I am inclined to believe that the candidate with the most votes in the primaries will probably be our strongest nominee.

If Bernie is that nominee, I will have no qualms in supporting him. The industrial states will be interesting. If Bernie can win those, then that would be very encouraging. Nobody really expects him to win states like Alabama or Mississippi. But if he can win back Michigan, Wisconsin, and PA, he may not be as weak as some people may think.

The "socialist" label is just that. He cannot get anything passed as a "socialist" but he might be able to get stuff passed as a Democrat? That is the political reality, notwithstanding any of the labels. As I recall, Obama was called a "Socialist" also.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to Peacetrain (Original post)

 

EveHammond13

(2,855 posts)
30. BUT NOT THE SWING STATE VOTERS WE NEED
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 06:58 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

kentuck

(111,092 posts)
32. But does that assume that the Bernie voters will automatically vote for the "moderate" candidate?
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 07:10 PM
Feb 2020

What if there are more Bernie voters than swing voters? Are we willing to sacrifice the Bernie voters?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Happy Hoosier

(7,305 posts)
36. Perhaps we are too fractured to offer resistance.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 09:40 PM
Feb 2020

Maybe, like the UK, the left and center are simply unable to work together to defeat Trump.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
34. Your 1st post to DU
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 07:48 PM
Feb 2020

And it got deleted ?

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