If Bernie is the nominee, we can expect months of ads showing shirtless Bernie in 1988,

[pnwmom]

sitting around a table in Russia with other topless people, singing "This land is your land, this land is my land. . . "

How fun.

The scene starts just after the 1.30 minute mark, but there are other clips all over youtube.

[NurseJackie]

1. And this will be on an endless loop too...

[Cha]

2. smh.. literally.

[musette_sf]

4. Yep

[secondwind]

8. The United States is capitalist with social programs... why don't we just explain what the word

"socialism" really means, instead of criticizing it... We have socialism all over this country, just sayin'....

[pnwmom]

12. Because they're not socialist programs. FDR would be rolling over in his grave to hear them

described that way. He, unlike many today, understood what socialism is. Socialism does not mean a government taxes people to pay for services. It's about who owns and controls the means of production.

[MH1]

16. While we're at it, let's just explain that African-Americans are people too

and presto - everybody just starts treating everyone equally no matter the color of their skin!

Trump didn't get put onto office by people who listen to reason.

[NurseJackie]

17. If you're explaining and justifying and defining... you're LOSING.

It's too late in the game to be suddenly worried about that now. If for some cursed reason he becomes our party's nominee, then it's it's much too fucking late to try an "explain the word" and the election would be lost.

There are simply no two ways about it. Our nation will not elect a Socialist for its president. The GOP will make certain of that.

We have socialism all over this country, just sayin'....

No we don't.

-- a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
-- policy or practice based on the political and economic theory of socialism.
-- (in Marxist theory) a transitional social state between the overthrow of capitalism and the realization of Communism.

[IluvPitties]

24. If you have to explain it, you are toast.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

29. Damn straight... it's CORPORATE Socialism that needs to be defeated...

though I doubt the corporate elites and corporate lobbyists would stand for it!!


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

[MFM008]

33. It doesnt matter

What it actually means.
SOCIALISM EQUAL COMMUNISM EQUAL DEATH OF AMERICA.
Thats the republican mantra.

[still_one]

3. As Sam Seder said, No Shirt, No Shoes, no service....................

[yellowwoodII]

5. And if Biden were to win...

We can expect endless articles about how Hunter Biden got his job. It's not that Joe Biden will be accused of doing something illegal necessarily. It will be that most of us unimportant people had to work hard to earn our jobs and so did our kids.

[Sloumeau]

11. You might want to read this:

[link:https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/1/5/1907833/-The-long-awaited-defense-of-Hunter-Biden|]

[pnwmom]

13. They won't be accompanied by endless videos of shirtless Biden hoisting a glass and singing. n/t

[oasis]

6. Hard to know how much (or little) Bernie has changed since then.

Problem solved by voting for someone else.

[secondwind]

7. Let's flesh this out a bit more, to get a better idea of what happened:

The 10-day trip to Yaroslavl was a “honeymoon” for the Sanders, but the primary purpose was official city business. Burlington was solidifying a sister-city relationship with Yaroslavl, a city about 160 miles northeast of Moscow. Also on the trip were John Franco, a city attorney; Peter Clavelle, the director of Community and Economic Development, who succeeded Sanders as mayor the following year; and Terry Bouricius, a Burlington city councilor.

According to Franco, the event videotaped was a send off party/dinner sponsored by officials in Yaroslavl on the last night of the trip. It was held, he said, at a spa where the guests took part in a Russian tradition of going into hot and cold pools after having their backs hit with eucalyptus and birch leaves. The guest then wrapped themselves in sheets before sharing a buffet style dinner and toasts, Franco said, noting Sanders did not drink.

======================

"THE GUESTS TOOK PART IN A RUSSIAN TRADITION OF GOING INTO HOT AND COLD POOLS........"

[pnwmom]

14. It doesn't matter. The 15 second ads Trump will endlessly put out won't include any of that.

And if you think that's all the Russians got on him while he was there, then you haven't been paying attention. The Soviet Union was a police state and they had him under constant surveillance.

[Moderateguy]

21. Do you expect the average voter to listen to lengthy explanations

[doc03]

23. I was thinking that was in a gym or spa because there is a doctor's scale

against the wall behind them. Probably perfectly Innocent but the Republicans will
make Sanders look like Joseph Stalin.

[Progressive dog]

9. Wow

Worse than I thought. We better stop him before he destroys our party. We can't afford to lose the house, our representatives and senators seem to be the only sane elected people left in national government.

[billpolonsky]

10. Bernie had a few drinks...

and is singing Woodie Guthrie with his shirt off

That is way closer to anything I've done in my life than any urine soaked depravity Donald Trump is into.

[pnwmom]

15. And you don't think police-state Russia has more on him than this?

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

30. BIIIIIINNGGOOOOO!!

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

[nsd]

19. Bernie lived a life.

That's what I got from that clip. He lived a life and seemed to have fun. Shirtless, drinking vodka (or whatever), having fun -- in his 40s! Lucky guy.

I don't want Sanders as the nominee, but stuff like this isn't going to stop him. And I speak as one who is probably well to the right of most DUers (an example: I gave $50 to Jim Webb in the 2016 primary).

Sanders does have to show that he's an American patriot and will be a trustworthy steward for the men and women of the US armed forces, in the role of commander in chief. He hasn't done that, in my opinion. But this clip and his Soviet honeymoon doesn't rule him out.

[HarlanPepper]

20. ...

[GanjaGrower]

22. Definitely not a good look

[aikoaiko]

25. How awesome is that!

[Aaron Pereira]

26. Bernie looks better with his clothes on. No doubt about that.

This video has been circulating for a long time and I'm sure it will destroy him with people over 70 who think the cold war is still going on and members of the John Birch Society. Beyond that I think using this video as an attack will just appear desperate and kind of silly.

Show this to a millennial and see what their reaction is.

[Mariana]

34. Those people are going to vote for Trump regardless.

"I'm sure it will destroy him with people over 70 who think the cold war is still going on and members of the John Birch Society."

[sheshe2]

27. I ain't touching that one!

Eeew.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

28. Oh my god they sang This Land Is Your Land? The monsters!

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

32. THE HORROR!!!!!!

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

[walkingman]

31. Can you imagine the billions that the insurance and pharma

will spend to try and discredit Bernie? It will come down to a question of "what do you want?" 4 more years of the biggest liar in American history or changing the way this country works for the first time since FDR. Should be an easy choice but we all know how effective marketing is - for those with little conviction they will begin to doubt themselves as the GOP does their typical hatchet job on their rivals. It reminds me of the Ann Richards smear campaign in Texas or maybe the John Kerry smears. Of course there are many, many other examples.