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Donkees

(31,328 posts)
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 08:27 AM Feb 2020

Bernie Sanders Rolls Out $1.5 Trillion Plan For Free, Universal Child Care

It’s the latest early childhood plan from a 2020 Democratic candidate — and it could be the biggest.

By Jonathan Cohn

Excerpt:

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) on Monday rolled out a plan under which the federal government would make child care and pre-kindergarten available to all American families, with no tuition or fees.

The Sanders plan, (https://berniesanders.com/issues/free-child-care-and-pre-k-all/) which campaign officials provided to reporters over the weekend, is the latest major proposal on early childhood to come from a 2020 Democratic presidential candidate. And with a projected budget of $1.5 trillion over 10 years, the Sanders plan may also be the biggest.

A major theme of the Sanders proposal is to treat child care as an extension of public education.

That means, among other things, focusing on raising qualifications and pay for the adults who care for children. Following a phase-in period, child care providers would have to meet the same training standards they do for the federal Head Start program, in which, for example, all lead preschool teachers must have a bachelor’s degree in early childhood education or some related field.

In return, the program envisions paying child care providers more like public school teachers by requiring that they make a living wage. Although the plan does not specify what that means, it’s bound to be a lot higher than existing wages, which are about $12 an hour or roughly the median wage for retail cashiers. Those low wages make it difficult to attract or retain the most talented workers.

The other way the Sanders plan treats child care like public education is by making it free at the point of service. It would be open to all families, regardless of income, at no direct cost to them.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/sanders-free-universal-child-care-plan_n_5e52f4aac5b629695f5c3e0f

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Bernie Sanders Rolls Out $1.5 Trillion Plan For Free, Universal Child Care (Original Post) Donkees Feb 2020 OP
Go Bernie. Magoo48 Feb 2020 #1
H O W D O W E P A Y F O R I T ? whistler162 Feb 2020 #2
transformation? myohmy2 Feb 2020 #5
That silly answer is pretty much why people write your guy off. MrsCoffee Feb 2020 #9
this Deero Feb 2020 #20
The poster wasn't being silly, they were bead dead serious cause that's what they know uponit7771 Feb 2020 #23
some... myohmy2 Feb 2020 #34
Some think promising everything for free is one way to buy an election. MrsCoffee Feb 2020 #36
We are $23T+ in debt.....you can't make that go away by adding to it. AncientGeezer Feb 2020 #45
How many trillions do all his plans cost now? NT Happy Hoosier Feb 2020 #16
This poster is dead serious about this answer ... just ... wow uponit7771 Feb 2020 #22
How? Legally, that will stand up in SCOTUS...How? AncientGeezer Feb 2020 #44
Everything is FREEEEEEEEEE! bucolic_frolic Feb 2020 #6
Free pony for everyone Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2020 #26
Bernie is going cazy with the give-a-ways that cannot pass in congress katmondoo Feb 2020 #15
Yup! But it plays well with millennials and the base SDANation Feb 2020 #18
HATER !!! / snarc uponit7771 Feb 2020 #21
The money's not the problem; the people are Recursion Feb 2020 #25
And here's what he would have to settle for legislatively BeyondGeography Feb 2020 #3
Amazing bucolic_frolic Feb 2020 #4
or... myohmy2 Feb 2020 #8
He put Trump in office, so yeah, you go with that one. MrsCoffee Feb 2020 #10
Bernie's... myohmy2 Feb 2020 #38
He has been deceitful. He hid the fact they were helping and claimed they were hurting his campaign, MrsCoffee Feb 2020 #40
His consistent staffing issues seem counter to your sentiment. LanternWaste Feb 2020 #46
Secretly HarlanPepper Feb 2020 #43
This message was self-deleted by its author InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #13
Bit sanders will not say how he will pay for this program Gothmog Feb 2020 #7
Everything is free, vote for me! MrsCoffee Feb 2020 #11
That's a good goal... TCJ70 Feb 2020 #12
Yay! Free everything. TheCowsCameHome Feb 2020 #14
Free Tax cuts for Corporations & Billionaires, Free Everything! whathehell Feb 2020 #39
Something else he can say "no one knows" Watchfoxheadexplodes Feb 2020 #17
I just can't take this guy seriously. C_U_L8R Feb 2020 #19
Sanders AND Warren are pretty much promising the same things with same funding sources. Hoyt Feb 2020 #24
Details on how they differ are above in you're interested in more than your standard Warren smear BeyondGeography Feb 2020 #27
Above, where? Most interested in how Warren's tax plans differ from Sanders' for all promises. Hoyt Feb 2020 #30
I understand your default Warren position but this is a thread about child care BeyondGeography Feb 2020 #31
Just think it's odd seeing all the Warren supporters bashing Sanders for spending that isn't viable. Hoyt Feb 2020 #35
So I point out how they differ significantly differ on this issue and whoosh BeyondGeography Feb 2020 #37
Go Bernie! whathehell Feb 2020 #28
a trillion here, a trillion there, soon adds up to be lots of trillions beachbumbob Feb 2020 #29
Just another ton of primary bait for the gullible empedocles Feb 2020 #32
Free EVERYTHING if you vote for me! said the BSer. democratisphere Feb 2020 #33
GOP ad: "Democrats Will Raise Your Taxes To Pay For Bernie's Socialist Revolution" dalton99a Feb 2020 #41
nothing is free except in Bernie land nt msongs Feb 2020 #42
Ahhh, what's the fuss? peggysue2 Feb 2020 #47
Statement from Biden campaign Gothmog Feb 2020 #48
 

whistler162

(11,155 posts)
2. H O W D O W E P A Y F O R I T ?
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 08:37 AM
Feb 2020
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myohmy2

(3,137 posts)
5. transformation?
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 08:48 AM
Feb 2020

...billionaires into millionaires?

...

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MrsCoffee

(5,801 posts)
9. That silly answer is pretty much why people write your guy off.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 08:56 AM
Feb 2020

He has no idea how he will pay for anything.

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Deero

(86 posts)
20. this
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 09:48 AM
Feb 2020

What's the plan when there are no more billionaires? Who pays for it then?

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uponit7771

(90,301 posts)
23. The poster wasn't being silly, they were bead dead serious cause that's what they know
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 09:53 AM
Feb 2020
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myohmy2

(3,137 posts)
34. some...
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 10:23 AM
Feb 2020

...keep expecting us to play a hand that hasn't been dealt...wait until we get there...

...are you saying in a 23 trillion dollar economy we haven't got the money?

...c'mon...

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MrsCoffee

(5,801 posts)
36. Some think promising everything for free is one way to buy an election.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 10:26 AM
Feb 2020
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AncientGeezer

(2,146 posts)
45. We are $23T+ in debt.....you can't make that go away by adding to it.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 04:31 PM
Feb 2020

Our GDP...."economy" was $21.4T last yr..the U.S. Economy....not the Government budget...tax revenues....expenditures.

Are you suggesting that because $21+trillion economy per yr.....that that allows trillions in added spending?

We do NOT have the money.....that's a mathematical fact.
If you took ever penny from every billionaire in the U.S. tomorrow, every dime, leave them penniless....you couldn't fund what we spend per yr... for ONE yr.......even if you zero'd out the Defense budget....no military spending that yr.......you can't fund the Government.

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Happy Hoosier

(7,215 posts)
16. How many trillions do all his plans cost now? NT
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 09:19 AM
Feb 2020

Let’s see....

Medicare for all
Free college tuition
Complete student debt relief
Universal Child Care

All free today!

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uponit7771

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22. This poster is dead serious about this answer ... just ... wow
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 09:53 AM
Feb 2020
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AncientGeezer

(2,146 posts)
44. How? Legally, that will stand up in SCOTUS...How?
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 03:26 PM
Feb 2020
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bucolic_frolic

(43,032 posts)
6. Everything is FREEEEEEEEEE!
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 08:49 AM
Feb 2020

Bubble gum politics, with ice cream on top!

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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,711 posts)
26. Free pony for everyone
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 10:07 AM
Feb 2020

You get a pony. You get a pony. Even you get a pony.

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katmondoo

(6,454 posts)
15. Bernie is going cazy with the give-a-ways that cannot pass in congress
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 09:15 AM
Feb 2020
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SDANation

(419 posts)
18. Yup! But it plays well with millennials and the base
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 09:37 AM
Feb 2020

He knows non of that is gonna get passed.but it gets him votes

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Recursion

(56,582 posts)
25. The money's not the problem; the people are
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 10:04 AM
Feb 2020

The country's not exactly swimming with unemployed people who can pass background checks.

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BeyondGeography

(39,341 posts)
3. And here's what he would have to settle for legislatively
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 08:46 AM
Feb 2020
But while the Warren and Sanders plans have a lot in common, including the emphasis on quality, hers would guarantee free child care only for families with incomes of up to twice the poverty line, which works out to about $52,000 a year for a family of four.

For families making more than that, child care would require fees, albeit on a sliding scale pegged to income and with a guarantee that no family would have to pay more than 7% of its income on child care.

This is the same basic approach in the Buttigieg plan and on Capitol Hill, in legislation introduced by Sen. Patty Murray (D-Wash.) and Rep. Bobby Scott (D-Va.).
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bucolic_frolic

(43,032 posts)
4. Amazing
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 08:48 AM
Feb 2020

Putin's backing two horses with extreme policies. Catch a pattern there? He doesn't want the strong, American, political middle to hold.

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myohmy2

(3,137 posts)
8. or...
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 08:56 AM
Feb 2020

...he likes a winner...

...the 'strong American middle' is only 20% thick...

...and getting thinner by the minute...

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MrsCoffee

(5,801 posts)
10. He put Trump in office, so yeah, you go with that one.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 09:03 AM
Feb 2020

Maybe he likes a winner....

It’s almost like you are cheering Putin on.

The similarities of the two campaigns and their supporters..... mind boggling.

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myohmy2

(3,137 posts)
38. Bernie's...
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 10:29 AM
Feb 2020

...been more than forceful rejecting while trump embraces...

...but then again, 'when in Rome......'

...a man's got to do what a man's got to do...

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MrsCoffee

(5,801 posts)
40. He has been deceitful. He hid the fact they were helping and claimed they were hurting his campaign,
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 10:39 AM
Feb 2020

He blamed Bernie Bro behavior on Russian bots trying to harm his campaign AFTER he had been informed the Russians were helping him. Hiding it only advances the Russians efforts and benefits Bernie.

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LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
46. His consistent staffing issues seem counter to your sentiment.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 04:35 PM
Feb 2020

But a supporter's gotta allege what a supporter's gotta allege-- I saw more than enough of that growing up in a southern baptist church...

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HarlanPepper

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43. Secretly
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 02:49 PM
Feb 2020

His help is probably welcomed by some. What they don’t realize is just how fucking quick that switch will be flipped if Bernie is the nominee.

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Gothmog

(144,890 posts)
7. Bit sanders will not say how he will pay for this program
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 08:54 AM
Feb 2020
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MrsCoffee

(5,801 posts)
11. Everything is free, vote for me!
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 09:06 AM
Feb 2020

I guess that’s one way to buy an election.

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TCJ70

(4,387 posts)
12. That's a good goal...
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 09:09 AM
Feb 2020

...childcare and pre-k is ridiculously expensive depending on where you live.

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TheCowsCameHome

(40,167 posts)
14. Yay! Free everything.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 09:13 AM
Feb 2020

Free college, free this, free that. Someone has to pay for it eventually.

The concept is nice, but this pie-on-the-sky free nonsense will sink him in the GE.



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whathehell

(29,026 posts)
39. Free Tax cuts for Corporations & Billionaires, Free Everything!
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 10:34 AM
Feb 2020


Socialism for the Rich -- 'Rugged Individualism' for everyone else.

As it happens, the agenda you call "pie in the sky" polls quite well with most Americans...The vast majority of those not on board are Billionaires, Billionaire-suck ups, and Those Too Clueless to Understand

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Watchfoxheadexplodes

(3,496 posts)
17. Something else he can say "no one knows"
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 09:24 AM
Feb 2020

When asked how it gets paid for?

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C_U_L8R

(44,986 posts)
19. I just can't take this guy seriously.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 09:38 AM
Feb 2020

Yelling and arm waving do not make these wishes become real. Most of all, neither the candidate nor his team are listening to any of us who have real concerns that they'll tank the economy. They can't or won't offer simple realistic plans how they'll pull any of this off. If they won't invest in us in the center, I have no time for them.

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Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
24. Sanders AND Warren are pretty much promising the same things with same funding sources.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 10:03 AM
Feb 2020

Ain't gonna happen, even if they managed to get elected.

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BeyondGeography

(39,341 posts)
27. Details on how they differ are above in you're interested in more than your standard Warren smear
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 10:07 AM
Feb 2020
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Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
30. Above, where? Most interested in how Warren's tax plans differ from Sanders' for all promises.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 10:14 AM
Feb 2020

We are not just talking child care plans (at least, I'm not), which aren't that different.

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BeyondGeography

(39,341 posts)
31. I understand your default Warren position but this is a thread about child care
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 10:18 AM
Feb 2020

The details are in the article which you obviously didn’t read. I also posted the excerpt above.

She caps free care at $52k HHI for a family of four. Same as the Scott/Murray Child Care for Working Families Act that has been introduced in Congress.

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Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
35. Just think it's odd seeing all the Warren supporters bashing Sanders for spending that isn't viable.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 10:24 AM
Feb 2020
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BeyondGeography

(39,341 posts)
37. So I point out how they differ significantly differ on this issue and whoosh
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 10:28 AM
Feb 2020

Typical.

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beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
29. a trillion here, a trillion there, soon adds up to be lots of trillions
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 10:12 AM
Feb 2020

and why many see more free giveways to be a bad thing. The proposal should be how to revamp and control cost for child care for those that NEED the help in the first place.

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empedocles

(15,751 posts)
32. Just another ton of primary bait for the gullible
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 10:18 AM
Feb 2020
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democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
33. Free EVERYTHING if you vote for me! said the BSer.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 10:21 AM
Feb 2020

Trillion dollar deficit in one year and $22+ trillion and climbing national debt. BS will have to sell 2 of his 3 houses to help pay for it.

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dalton99a

(81,391 posts)
41. GOP ad: "Democrats Will Raise Your Taxes To Pay For Bernie's Socialist Revolution"
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 10:42 AM
Feb 2020

Easy low-hanging fruit



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msongs

(67,347 posts)
42. nothing is free except in Bernie land nt
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 02:47 PM
Feb 2020
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peggysue2

(10,819 posts)
47. Ahhh, what's the fuss?
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 05:02 PM
Feb 2020

Another $1.5 trillion. Just nickels and dimes. How do I know this? Bernie said so.





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Gothmog

(144,890 posts)
48. Statement from Biden campaign
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 08:50 PM
Feb 2020
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