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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 11:42 AM Feb 2020

Russia Doesn't Want Bernie Sanders. It Wants Chaos

https://www.wired.com/story/bernie-sanders-russia-chaos-2020-election/?fbclid=IwAR0RHsCwHQsJYh79Qwi3i_dMt8PGeUtqWpt58OzIdjeNVQhyJaQim_GuaCM

Russia Doesn't Want Bernie Sanders. It Wants Chaos
The point of Kremlin interference has always been to find democracy’s loose seams, and pull.


If there’s one line intelligence officials have stuck to about Russian interference in US elections, it’s that it never stopped. Not after the 2016 election, not after the 2018 midterms, and certainly not now, well into the 2020 primary season. Which is why it should be no great surprise that, as The Washington Post first reported Friday, US officials warned Bernie Sanders that Russia is “attempting to help” his presidential campaign. It also shouldn’t be read as any kind of endorsement.

Sanders did vote against the Magnitsky Act in 2012, a notorious Putin bugaboo, which could arguably make him a more palatable candidate to the Kremlin. But the distinction between Russia’s support for Trump and Sanders then, as now, is that Russia wanted only Trump to win. Promoting Sanders was simply another means to that end, driving a wedge between two already fraught factions of the Democratic Party.

The 2020 playbook remains the same, say Clint Watts, a senior fellow at the Foreign Policy Research Institute who studies Russian interference efforts: Elevate Trump, play up that Sanders got a raw deal, and tear down the leading institutional Democrat—then Clinton, now Biden and Bloomberg. Instead of Jill Stein, 2020 has Tulsi Gabbard, who has not left the race and whom Russian media, Watts says, regularly praises.

“The Kremlin’s strategy for a year has been very straightforward,” Watts says. “They would like to see Trump reelected.”
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Russia Doesn't Want Bernie Sanders. It Wants Chaos (Original Post) NurseJackie Feb 2020 OP
Russia wants trump Watchfoxheadexplodes Feb 2020 #1
Just look at the divisiveness on DU? Bluepinky Feb 2020 #4
I believe Clint Watts over anyone currently in the IC Walleye Feb 2020 #2
Democracy vs. Dictatorship bucolic_frolic Feb 2020 #3
In re Tweet: Whoa. nt dotism Feb 2020 #6
Yeah, and it's a well known recognized source who's on TV twice a week bucolic_frolic Feb 2020 #7
That's pretty gross, but it was also almost 50 years ago. Bluepinky Feb 2020 #9
Pretty fringe for the times bucolic_frolic Feb 2020 #10
Sanders has no historical swing state appeal outside of MOE, Biden has the most so of course Russia uponit7771 Feb 2020 #5
No, they want Trump as President BlueIdaho Feb 2020 #8
wrong Russia wants the GOP to win, and they think Sanders can help do that nt Fresh_Start Feb 2020 #11
Yep... that's exactly right. NurseJackie Feb 2020 #12
 

Watchfoxheadexplodes

(3,496 posts)
1. Russia wants trump
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 11:44 AM
Feb 2020

And to help Sander's will do just that.

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Bluepinky

(2,268 posts)
4. Just look at the divisiveness on DU?
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 11:51 AM
Feb 2020

Don’t allow Russian interference to divide us, pledge to support any Democrat or Democratic Socialist who wins the nomination. That being said, I don’t trust Tulsi, and I fear she may run as an Independent when she loses the nomination.

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Walleye

(31,022 posts)
2. I believe Clint Watts over anyone currently in the IC
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 11:45 AM
Feb 2020
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bucolic_frolic

(43,161 posts)
3. Democracy vs. Dictatorship
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 11:50 AM
Feb 2020

The world is dividing into two camps. Russia wants a weak, docile America with a fringe leader, they are hollowing out the political middle which is historically where vast numbers of people, consensus, a strong Federal State, and common sense reside. That's how America became a great power with the will to challenge fascism and support democracy. This is a power grab, a money grab, for the oligarchs against the common man.

Sanders is a pawn, and even if not complicit, he should tell us. He doesn't even do that.

By the way, this surfaced this morning.


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bucolic_frolic

(43,161 posts)
7. Yeah, and it's a well known recognized source who's on TV twice a week
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 11:56 AM
Feb 2020
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Bluepinky

(2,268 posts)
9. That's pretty gross, but it was also almost 50 years ago.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 11:59 AM
Feb 2020

Dirt can be found on anyone. We’ll end up with Trump again if we demand a pure candidate. Trump has done awful things to women in actuality, not just some perverse fantasizing.

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bucolic_frolic

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10. Pretty fringe for the times
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 12:32 PM
Feb 2020

Today, very widespread. It says more about personality than anything else in my view.

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uponit7771

(90,336 posts)
5. Sanders has no historical swing state appeal outside of MOE, Biden has the most so of course Russia
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 11:52 AM
Feb 2020

... would want a Sanders nomination against their whore Trump

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BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
8. No, they want Trump as President
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 11:58 AM
Feb 2020

Right or wrong they see Senator Sanders as a means to an end.

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Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
11. wrong Russia wants the GOP to win, and they think Sanders can help do that nt
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 09:11 AM
Feb 2020

nt

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
12. Yep... that's exactly right.
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 09:11 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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