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Cal Carpenter

(4,959 posts)
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 01:20 PM Feb 2020

VA Poll: ALL Dems beat Trump, Sanders beats Trump with widest margin

All Dems beat Trump but Bernie beats him the most.

https://www.roanoke.edu/about/news/rc_poll_news_politics_feb_2020

Democratic Candidates vs. Trump

Sanders 49% Trump 40%

Biden 48% Trump 40%

Warren 48% Trump 41%

Buttigieg 47% Trump 40%

Bloomberg 46% Trump 40%

There's also favorability ratings at the link. Copy paste isn't formatting right on my phone so you have to click the link to see those.

Eta: changed thread title because I naively forgot I'd get piled on for emphasizing my favorite of the many great candidates we have to choose from.



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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VA Poll: ALL Dems beat Trump, Sanders beats Trump with widest margin (Original Post) Cal Carpenter Feb 2020 OP
The top four are identical against trump. All within MOE between each other still_one Feb 2020 #1
? Cal Carpenter Feb 2020 #3
Do you understand MOE? plus or minus 4.3 is well within the MOE. They are identical still_one Feb 2020 #4
It might as well be Curly or Larry. TheCowsCameHome Feb 2020 #12
Yes. I also know that polls for the general aren't very meaningful at this point Cal Carpenter Feb 2020 #13
Statistically they are. They do another sampling the results would be in the MOE, with order still_one Feb 2020 #23
First, they did rotate the order of candidates Cal Carpenter Feb 2020 #25
And you would probably make the same claim if Biden were on top berni_mccoy Feb 2020 #11
So he has to stop but the OP can go ahead and say the same thing? HarlanPepper Feb 2020 #15
Where did I say he should stop berni_mccoy Feb 2020 #17
"Please stop already" HarlanPepper Feb 2020 #19
Yeah you misunderstand berni_mccoy Feb 2020 #21
The MOE is plus or minus is 4.3, yes I would say the same thing for any of the candidates, and so still_one Feb 2020 #20
The best thing in this poll is how low Trump is regarded in any case. RhodeIslandOne Feb 2020 #2
In national polls, Mr.Bill Feb 2020 #5
WELL THERE'S A SHOCKER...NOT! So that's it, Bernie MUST be our nominee & the rest must drop out... InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #6
Let's do this! Meadowoak Feb 2020 #18
I never did, and you are right some played that silly assed nonsense still_one Feb 2020 #26
I appreciate your intellectual honesty... respect! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #28
Thanks, but you're the same way. One can't deny what happened, or shouldn't anyway still_one Feb 2020 #29
True dat!! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #30
Didn't Virginia vote blue last time? OKNancy Feb 2020 #7
Yes, but it really is purple. It was red until only recently. And spooky3 Feb 2020 #14
I just love that ALL are outside the margin of error for victory. Trump stuck@40% oldsoftie Feb 2020 #8
Yes, i think that's an excellent piece of info! Cal Carpenter Feb 2020 #22
And yet, we have a thread on this site advocating possibility of a "write-in campaign." David__77 Feb 2020 #9
WTF??! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #31
It was subsequently removed. David__77 Feb 2020 #32
I think you meant that Klobuchar, not Warren, is best on spooky3 Feb 2020 #10
Oops, edited Cal Carpenter Feb 2020 #16
Well, you know, it's just another one of those so called polls Tom Rinaldo Feb 2020 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #27
 

still_one

(92,136 posts)
1. The top four are identical against trump. All within MOE between each other
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 01:25 PM
Feb 2020

OP is misleading

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cal Carpenter

(4,959 posts)
3. ?
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 01:30 PM
Feb 2020

9 is bigger than 8 or 7.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

still_one

(92,136 posts)
4. Do you understand MOE? plus or minus 4.3 is well within the MOE. They are identical
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 01:35 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TheCowsCameHome

(40,168 posts)
12. It might as well be Curly or Larry.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 01:38 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Cal Carpenter

(4,959 posts)
13. Yes. I also know that polls for the general aren't very meaningful at this point
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 01:38 PM
Feb 2020

But they are interesting, and the patterns and trends that emerge from them can help with predictions, speculation, etc.

Eta: MOE doesn't mean the results are identical, though. Do you understand how they work?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

still_one

(92,136 posts)
23. Statistically they are. They do another sampling the results would be in the MOE, with order
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 01:56 PM
Feb 2020

switched around

You want to believe a 1 or 2 pint difference with a MOE of 4.3 is statistically different go right ahead

Enjoy

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cal Carpenter

(4,959 posts)
25. First, they did rotate the order of candidates
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 02:02 PM
Feb 2020

And second, they are not 'identical'. Within the MOE is not the same as statistically 'identical' no matter how you word it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
11. And you would probably make the same claim if Biden were on top
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 01:37 PM
Feb 2020

Please stop already

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

HarlanPepper

(2,042 posts)
15. So he has to stop but the OP can go ahead and say the same thing?
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 01:42 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
17. Where did I say he should stop
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 01:45 PM
Feb 2020

People are free to make fools of themselves whoever they may be.

I’m just calling out the hypocrisy of such a criticism especially here

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
21. Yeah you misunderstand
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 01:49 PM
Feb 2020

I’m just asking for the hypocrisy to stop

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

still_one

(92,136 posts)
20. The MOE is plus or minus is 4.3, yes I would say the same thing for any of the candidates, and so
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 01:49 PM
Feb 2020

would anyone else who appreciates statistics and sampling

This isn’t about bragging rights

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
2. The best thing in this poll is how low Trump is regarded in any case.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 01:28 PM
Feb 2020

People were saying things about Virginia that scared me this weekend.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Mr.Bill

(24,281 posts)
5. In national polls,
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 01:36 PM
Feb 2020

Hillary beat him, too.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
6. WELL THERE'S A SHOCKER...NOT! So that's it, Bernie MUST be our nominee & the rest must drop out...
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 01:36 PM
Feb 2020

Last edited Mon Feb 24, 2020, 02:16 PM - Edit history (1)

At least that's what many argued when Joe was sposedly inevitable cuz he allegedly had the best chance of beating the Fascist-in-Chief!! As I predicted, it's actually Bernie who's inevitable... it's His time now & time for all Democrats to unite under the Bernie Banner!!


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

still_one

(92,136 posts)
26. I never did, and you are right some played that silly assed nonsense
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 02:02 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
28. I appreciate your intellectual honesty... respect!
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 02:17 PM
Feb 2020

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

still_one

(92,136 posts)
29. Thanks, but you're the same way. One can't deny what happened, or shouldn't anyway
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 02:39 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
30. True dat!!
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 03:06 PM
Feb 2020



Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
7. Didn't Virginia vote blue last time?
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 01:36 PM
Feb 2020

I'm not concerned about blue states. We need the purple ones.
And add Arizona just for safety

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

spooky3

(34,438 posts)
14. Yes, but it really is purple. It was red until only recently. And
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 01:39 PM
Feb 2020

Remember that Kaine was on the ballot with Clinton in 2016.

It is turning blue but the last thing we should do is take any purple state for granted.

And, it is a Super Tuesday primary state, so how it votes there could be important.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

oldsoftie

(12,531 posts)
8. I just love that ALL are outside the margin of error for victory. Trump stuck@40%
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 01:37 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cal Carpenter

(4,959 posts)
22. Yes, i think that's an excellent piece of info!
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 01:51 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

David__77

(23,369 posts)
9. And yet, we have a thread on this site advocating possibility of a "write-in campaign."
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 01:37 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
31. WTF??!
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 03:07 PM
Feb 2020

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

David__77

(23,369 posts)
32. It was subsequently removed.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 03:34 PM
Feb 2020

...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

spooky3

(34,438 posts)
10. I think you meant that Klobuchar, not Warren, is best on
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 01:37 PM
Feb 2020

Favorability ratings.

And I agree that YOUR headline really should be what was published with the original article—that all of the Dems beat Trump by fairly large and similar margins.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cal Carpenter

(4,959 posts)
16. Oops, edited
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 01:44 PM
Feb 2020

The difference between favorability and unfavorability screwed me up. But you're right, while others have higher favorability than Klobuchar, her unfavorability is the lowest.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Tom Rinaldo

(22,912 posts)
24. Well, you know, it's just another one of those so called polls
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 02:01 PM
Feb 2020

Based on a random sample of real people who vote. But anyone who knows anything simply understands that Bernie would attract the fewest voters in the General Election. Why do we even bother with these polls?


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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