Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumprimary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jezebel321
(278 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Mr.Bill
(24,284 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
David__77
(23,372 posts)...itll be skin to skin contact I guess.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
AlexSFCA
(6,137 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jimfields33
(15,787 posts)I swear thats what the mantra was for a month. In fact, last week many were upset they were going after each other. And some even thought trump won the debate. How so much flipped in a short time. Weird. Trumps loving this Im afraid.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)it is high time that they hit back.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jimfields33
(15,787 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LaurenOlimina
(1,165 posts)Trump is weak there, so he will attack there. This attack defuses Trumps totalitarian love letters.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
DanTex
(20,709 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)....we just cannot win.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DanTex
(20,709 posts)If we're looking for someone who stands firm on human rights, Bernie is a perfect candidate.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
brooklynite
(94,520 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,192 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ramen
(790 posts)He explicitly stated that he condemned the human rights violations, after pointing out some of the reasons that Castro had some support in his country from things like that literacy program. The point he seems to be making here is that Cuban communism was not monolithic.
This is nowhere near the endorsement of Castro that people are making it out to be.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)...in both the state legislature and Congress, those comments don't sit well.
Remember when he made those statements, at a time when Castro was still imprisoning journalists and dissidents and conducting mass executions. In the 1980s he made nary a peep about "human rights"!
Someone praising a murderous dictator is a "perfect candidate"? BTW, Castro isn't the only despot for whom Sanders has extolled their virtues.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
subana
(586 posts)Marco Rubio was saying that socialism is a Marxist theology. I don't know if it is but it sounds like they might be similar. By saying it's marxist seems to also be saying it's communist.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Frasier Balzov
(2,646 posts)The Party will come to you.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bucolic_frolic
(43,146 posts)It's a good sign the media is digging. We don't need another slow unease that drags us down every time we get a bounce all the way to election day
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)...on Sunday night!
They say Sanders never changes, but that's not always a good thing.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
AlexSFCA
(6,137 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ramen
(790 posts)I just watched the video a couple times to make sure I was reading it accurately. He clearly points out that the human rights abuses Cuba committed are to be condemned. Check about halfway through the video.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ramen
(790 posts)because it was surely condemnable, but can't prove that he did.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ramen
(790 posts)What you are suggesting would mean all leaders everywhere have always been bad. It is not a defense to point out some not-evil things done by a person who did some evil things. He directly condemned the imprisonment of dissidents in this video, for example.
Fuck Castro, for the record, I see that some are suggesting that Sanders supporters have been all-in for Castro all along. Not I.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)It goes without saying that humans aren't all bad, there's something about some humans that might be good.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ramen
(790 posts)this would have been a bad way to do it. I don't think he is wrong here. There are many, many brutal things that have happened from US foreign policy. It doesn't make me think that the US is an evil country, on balance. It doesn't make me think all its leaders have been evil.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)... propaganda not teach literacy by itself.
Sanders comments were a mistake
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Mountain Mule
(1,002 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
aikoaiko
(34,169 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
tishaLA
(14,176 posts)As former Obama speechwriter Jon Favreau tweeted out this morning, Pres Obama made similar arguments about the literacy and healthcare advances made in Cuba post-revolution and the world didn't end.
The difference is that Pres Obama spent much longer talking about human rights violations, etc and really clobbered Castro--in Cuba--after noting the "good things" Castro had done.
He also didn't say Castro "took office," which is a terrible euphemism for a bloody revolution in which you round up and execute your political enemies.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Crunchy Frog
(26,579 posts)I've never understood this overblown fixation that we have on Cuba in particular. It seems like it's mostly about a sixty year long grudge that we seem unable to move past.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Capt. America
(2,477 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided