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pnwmom

(108,959 posts)
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 05:29 PM Feb 2020

In the delegate counts, so far Bernie's won 1 state (NV), tied 1 (NH) and lost 1 (Iowa)

And his followers are declaring victory and saying the race is all but over.

Would Bernie have accepted that from the Hillary camp in 2016, when she won 2 out of the first 3 contests?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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RandiFan1290

(6,221 posts)
1. How's the Ebola outbreak going?
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 05:30 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

House of Roberts

(5,167 posts)
2. Except Bernie got 25.7% in New Hampshire,
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 05:41 PM
Feb 2020

and Buttigieg only got 24.4%.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

pnwmom

(108,959 posts)
3. They tied in the delegate count. And the point is unchanged.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 05:43 PM
Feb 2020

Hillary won 2/3 by voters or delegates, and yet no one was declaring victory after 3 little contests. She would have been a laughing-stock if she'd tried to.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

House of Roberts

(5,167 posts)
7. So your criteria being delegates, not voters,
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 05:50 PM
Feb 2020

Bernie didn't lose New Hampshire, he tied. Your title is still wrong.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

pnwmom

(108,959 posts)
9. I'd mixed up Iowa and NH. Thanks. I fixed the title. The point remains.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 05:53 PM
Feb 2020

I don't understand why some people can't at least wait till Super Tuesday to see how things shake out.

It makes the millions of us who won't even vote till AFTER March 3 feel that much more redundant.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
4. Well, NH was a tie. But that's beside the point. "Clear frontrunner" is not synonymous with...
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 05:43 PM
Feb 2020

...declaring victory.

The 538 crew can hardly be called Sanders followers, but this is their forecast: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-primary-forecast/.

A lot of folks seem to not understand how this works, that frontrunner status is not just about the current delegate total. There are other factors, such as polling aggregates and analysis of where support is coming from. For instance, do you think someone with almost no support from POC is viable in a race for the Democratic Party nomination? Answers to those types of questions matter.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

pnwmom

(108,959 posts)
5. Many Sanders supporters have been declaring victory. n/t
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 05:45 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
8. In various races, sure. But declaring victory as in "the primary is over?" Show me.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 05:53 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
12. I thought you meant on DU.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 06:24 PM
Feb 2020

Outside of DU, in a nation this big, you'll find an example of almost anything.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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thesquanderer

(11,972 posts)
13. I can do one better. There were Biden supporters declaring victory before the first primary.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 06:27 PM
Feb 2020

And saying Sanders should withdraw.

Every campaign has its zealots.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

David__77

(23,335 posts)
6. I suppose candidates' supporters may spin information.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 05:46 PM
Feb 2020

Certainly this thing is not done by any means.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

dualboy24

(41 posts)
10. Odds are in his favor currently
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 06:15 PM
Feb 2020

He won a clear victory in NV, along with the popular vote in the other two contests.

He is polling well with a +12.1% average. And He has already been through this processes in 2016 so there really is very little to toss at him that has not been tried before, the odds are he will be the nominee, and he has really attached himself to popular topics for the average voter.

Of course the number of candidates is helping to fragment those more to the right, which really helps.

The odds would of course change if everyone but say Biden drops out, as it would really force people to consolidate their votes and we would probably see something akin to 2016.

I don't think Bloomberg is really a serious contender considering his past debate performance, that he is canceling town-halls, and the fact that he has made so many critical mistakes, and said so many questionable things in his past.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
14. Sanders has 45% of all delegates awarded so far; his nearest rival has 25%.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 06:29 PM
Feb 2020

Those are the numbers that matter, not how many states have been won or tied.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

pnwmom

(108,959 posts)
15. So? They were all small contests and 2/3 of them were caucuses.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 06:31 PM
Feb 2020

It's ridiculous to draw any conclusions before Super Tuesday, and then we'll see how things shake out.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
16. Sanders is projected to win most of the Super Tuesday states including the 2 with the most delegates
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 06:37 PM
Feb 2020

There's no reason to expect that he won't continue to lead after that, barring some sudden and unexpected reversal.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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