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highplainsdem

(48,892 posts)
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 10:22 PM Feb 2020

Wow. Bloomberg ad: The NRA helped elect Bernie Sanders to Congress

Last edited Mon Feb 24, 2020, 11:08 PM - Edit history (1)

Devastating ad, tweeted by Bloomberg adviser Tim O'Brien.

I hadn't realized the NRA backed Sanders because his opponent in that race, in which Sanders was elected to Congress for the first time, had sponsored a bill banning assault weapons.

Here's the tweet and the ad:





If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Wow. Bloomberg ad: The NRA helped elect Bernie Sanders to Congress (Original Post) highplainsdem Feb 2020 OP
Good. HarlanPepper Feb 2020 #1
Love the desperation out of fear Bernie's inevitable... but that's because he IS!!!! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #2
Sounds like that one could cut both ways. David__77 Feb 2020 #3
They bought advertising because they liked his opponent less. They weren't a donor. This is a smear. JudyM Feb 2020 #4
Bloomberg Advisor Deero Feb 2020 #5
Just corrected it. Sorry about the typo. highplainsdem Feb 2020 #15
Happens. Deero Feb 2020 #16
And with that Bernie took out a Republican House Member. You're welcome. aikoaiko Feb 2020 #6
I did not know of the connection between BS and the NRA. Haggis for Breakfast Feb 2020 #7
You'd better do more research on this. Bluepinky Feb 2020 #9
Does that "D" stand for dollars ? Haggis for Breakfast Feb 2020 #12
No, it's a letter grade, ramen Feb 2020 #23
Sanders wants to BAN all assault weapons. See my post with his website position Liberty Belle Feb 2020 #21
Bloom or Chris Murphy. Hmmm who do I trust? Who do I trust Autumn Feb 2020 #8
Murphy, absolutely. nt babylonsister Feb 2020 #10
just goes to show... myohmy2 Feb 2020 #11
He will never win a General Election Desert grandma Feb 2020 #17
Please correct your post, Tim O'Brien is NOT an advisor to Sanders ... cliffside Feb 2020 #13
Thanks. Just corrected it. That was a typo. highplainsdem Feb 2020 #14
Thank you, Bloomberg and Biden are all over this issue. nt cliffside Feb 2020 #19
Kick dalton99a Feb 2020 #18
Bernie now says he'll ban assault weapons & Take on the NRA and its corrupting effect on Washington. Liberty Belle Feb 2020 #20
Bernie Sanders was always for Eric J in MN Feb 2020 #24
No, he was not. Sanders throughout the 1970s belonged to the radical fringe Liberty Union Party highplainsdem Feb 2020 #26
Is it true he voted against the Brady Bill? I heard that on the broadcast of the debate. eilen Feb 2020 #30
Five times, as Biden keeps reminding people. highplainsdem Feb 2020 #31
fake news. nt yaesu Feb 2020 #22
kick highplainsdem Feb 2020 #25
Bloomberg's anti gun organization also gave bernie an award of distinction dumptrump1 Feb 2020 #27
K+R emmaverybo Feb 2020 #28
And Bloomberg got Pat Toomey and Lindsey Graham OliverQ Feb 2020 #29
In other news, the NRA has been attacking Bloomberg for years. Kaleva Feb 2020 #32
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,121 posts)
2. Love the desperation out of fear Bernie's inevitable... but that's because he IS!!!!
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 10:29 PM
Feb 2020

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!
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David__77

(23,311 posts)
3. Sounds like that one could cut both ways.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 10:31 PM
Feb 2020

“Wow, I guess he’s not one of those gun grabbers.”

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JudyM

(29,185 posts)
4. They bought advertising because they liked his opponent less. They weren't a donor. This is a smear.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 10:32 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

Deero

(86 posts)
5. Bloomberg Advisor
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 10:33 PM
Feb 2020

Not Sanders.

Regardless, it's about time somebody started hitting Bernie.

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highplainsdem

(48,892 posts)
15. Just corrected it. Sorry about the typo.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 11:10 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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aikoaiko

(34,161 posts)
6. And with that Bernie took out a Republican House Member. You're welcome.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 10:33 PM
Feb 2020

The NRA now loves Bernie so much they gave him D on the scorecard.

It wasn't that the NRA liked Bernie so much as they hated Peter Smith.
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Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
7. I did not know of the connection between BS and the NRA.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 10:36 PM
Feb 2020

My niece is a survivor (well, she survived physically . . . ) of the Marjorie Stoneman Douglas High School shooting. If this is true (and I will check this out further), then I will NEVER vote for Sanders. But then I don't believe that he will be the candidate.

No gun-humper will ever get my vote.

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Bluepinky

(2,265 posts)
9. You'd better do more research on this.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 10:50 PM
Feb 2020

If Bernie has a D from the NRA, he’s obviously not a gun humper.

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Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
12. Does that "D" stand for dollars ?
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 11:00 PM
Feb 2020

Because they have given him a LOT of them.

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ramen

(788 posts)
23. No, it's a letter grade,
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 01:14 AM
Feb 2020

meaning that the slimeball NRA thinks Sanders gets a grade of D. That's not how you buy someone. The assertion that the NRA owns Sanders is not correct.

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Liberty Belle

(9,532 posts)
21. Sanders wants to BAN all assault weapons. See my post with his website position
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 12:28 AM
Feb 2020

which includes pretty much everything gun control advocates want.

Times have changed from long ago, when he was a rural legislator and the NRA mostly advocated for hunters, before mass murders with assault weapons became a nationwide epidemic.

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Autumn

(44,972 posts)
8. Bloom or Chris Murphy. Hmmm who do I trust? Who do I trust
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 10:49 PM
Feb 2020





Chris Murphy. Yep that's the ticket, never knew Murphy to make misleading claims.


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babylonsister

(171,029 posts)
10. Murphy, absolutely. nt
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 10:53 PM
Feb 2020
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myohmy2

(3,137 posts)
11. just goes to show...
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 10:55 PM
Feb 2020

...the wide range of support Bernie can generate...

...the breadth and width of which the likes we've never seen...

...he's going to make a hell of a President...

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Desert grandma

(803 posts)
17. He will never win a General Election
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 11:13 PM
Feb 2020

The only states that count are Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Florida. If he can't bring those more conservative voters along, then we will be toast in the General Election. It is All about the Electoral College. We will see what he does.

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cliffside

(165 posts)
13. Please correct your post, Tim O'Brien is NOT an advisor to Sanders ...
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 11:06 PM
Feb 2020

"Devastating ad, tweeted by Sanders adviser Tim O'Brien."

We're better than this!

Journalist and Author Timothy O’Brien Named Senior Advisor for Mike Bloomberg’s 2020 Presidential Campaign

November 25, 2019

https://www.mikebloomberg.com/news/journalist-and-author-timothy-obrien-named-senior-advisor-for-mike-bloombergs-2020-presidential-campaign

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highplainsdem

(48,892 posts)
14. Thanks. Just corrected it. That was a typo.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 11:09 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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cliffside

(165 posts)
19. Thank you, Bloomberg and Biden are all over this issue. nt
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 11:29 PM
Feb 2020
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Liberty Belle

(9,532 posts)
20. Bernie now says he'll ban assault weapons & Take on the NRA and its corrupting effect on Washington.
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 12:26 AM
Feb 2020

His position has evolved on this issue as mass shootings have become common, and also as president he would be representing the entire nation, not just a rural state with lots of hunters.

Here is what his website says today; it's as liberal on promises to crack down on gun violence as you'll find:


Key Points

Take on the NRA and its corrupting effect on Washington.
Expand background checks.
End the gun show loophole. All gun purchases should be subject to the same background check standards.
Ban the sale and distribution of assault weapons. Assault weapons are designed and sold as tools of war. There is absolutely no reason why these firearms should be sold to civilians.
Prohibit high-capacity ammunition magazines.
Implement a buyback program to get assault weapons off the streets.
Regulate assault weapons in the same way that we currently regulate fully automatic weapons — a system that essentially makes them unlawful to own.
Crack down on “straw purchases” where people buy guns for criminals.
Support “red flag” laws and legislation to ensure we keep guns out of the hands of domestic abusers and stalkers
Ban the 3-D printing of firearms and bump stocks

Details

We face an epidemic of gun violence in this country. A significant majority of Americans want commonsense gun reform. But the NRA, now a full-fledged, right-wing political organization, spends millions on TV and internet ads attacking candidates who dare to stand up for what voters want. We must:

Take on the NRA and its corrupting effect on Washington. The NRA has become a partisan lobbying public-relations entity for gun manufacturers, and its influence must be stopped.
Expand background checks.
End the gun show loophole. All gun purchases should be subject to the same background check standards.
Ban the sale and distribution of assault weapons. Assault weapons are designed and sold as tools of war. There is absolutely no reason why these firearms should be sold to civilians.
Prohibit high-capacity ammunition magazines.
Crack down on “straw purchases” where people buy guns for criminals.

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Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
24. Bernie Sanders was always for
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 01:28 AM
Feb 2020

...a ban on the sale of assault weapons.

That was his position in 1988 when he ran for Congress and lost. His position in 1990 when he ran for Congress and won by 16.5% points (meaning a last minute flyer from the NRA probably wasn’t important to his victory). His position in 1994 when he voted for the Assault Weapons Ban which President Bill Clinton signed into law.

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highplainsdem

(48,892 posts)
26. No, he was not. Sanders throughout the 1970s belonged to the radical fringe Liberty Union Party
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 10:16 PM
Feb 2020

in Vermont, and he ran twice for governor and twice for US Senate as their candidate, and they were opposed to ALL gun laws.

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eilen

(4,950 posts)
30. Is it true he voted against the Brady Bill? I heard that on the broadcast of the debate.
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 10:22 PM
Feb 2020

I was surprised.

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highplainsdem

(48,892 posts)
31. Five times, as Biden keeps reminding people.
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 10:23 PM
Feb 2020
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dumptrump1

(236 posts)
27. Bloomberg's anti gun organization also gave bernie an award of distinction
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 10:17 PM
Feb 2020
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OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
29. And Bloomberg got Pat Toomey and Lindsey Graham
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 10:18 PM
Feb 2020

re-elected to the Senate, preventing Dems from getting a majority.

Sorry, not supporting someone who gave tens of millions to Republican trash like Toomey and Graham.

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Kaleva

(36,241 posts)
32. In other news, the NRA has been attacking Bloomberg for years.
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 10:33 PM
Feb 2020
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