Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumCardiology expert say there is one measure of heart function Bernie hasn't released but could.
I wonder why. Any wild guesses why this was left out of his doctor's letters?
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/cardiology-director-says-there-s-one-heart-measure-sanders-could-n1141736
But by releasing one simple indicator of his heart health, Sanders could address some lingering questions, Richard Kovacs, president of the American College of Cardiology, or ACC, told NBC News.
Following Sanders' heart attack, doctors inserted two stents in an artery and he was hospitalized for several days. After promising to release "comprehensive" records after the procedure, his campaign balked, saying no more information would be forthcoming.
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The indicator, called the left ventricular ejection fraction, is provided to any patient after a heart attack, Kovacs said. It's a measure of how much blood volume the heart pushes out with an individual heartbeat, and it correlates with the risk for future cardiac events and mortality rate.
"Normally the heart will push out 60 percent," Kovacs said. "If you go down to 40 or 50 percent, we regard that as mild impairment of the left ventricle. Thirty to 40 percent would be moderate. If you get to 30 percent, that would be severe."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Moderateguy
(945 posts)He wouldn't be able to keep up his schedule even with 30% EF (ejection fraction), let alone anything lower
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
relayerbob
(6,537 posts)Mine is 15-18% after a heart attack, a stent thrombosis and a lot of damage due to some really shitty doctoring now with far better ones). I do almost everything most other people do, although I do get tired easily. If he was at 25%, and doing the right things (which I now do), he could easily do that. But, it's risky
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
trueblue2007
(17,194 posts)for rest of my life
lno salt diet and stress free. just my own opinion as having heart failure ,,,, i don't think he can handle being president. i don't think his heart can handle the job.
i am tired so much of time. nothing like i was before my incident. i am depressed also.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... lots of travel, jet-lag, irregular sleep and eating patterns. I'm afraid that he LACKS THE STAMINA needed for the job.
We've seen how the responsibilities and duties of being POTUS have added TWENTY YEARS to other much younger (and much HEALTHIER men and much more VIGOROUS men).
Do the math... add 20 to Bernie's current age (78?) and there's really not much wiggle-room for him.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OnDoutside
(19,948 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
True Blue American
(17,981 posts)And their families it is clear how devastating it is. I had no idea how much you were affected. One had 2 more, he lived but was greatly affected in his ability. The other one has lost his balance due to lack of oxygen to his nerves.
No one stand the rigors of the Presidency. Look at Trump and he does little but pose,tweet and posture. It was clear yesterday he was having trouble walking and rushing so he could sit down
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Moderateguy
(945 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
womanofthehills
(8,661 posts)Bloomberg has 2 and Biden has 2 in his brain. Both Bloomberg and Biden also have irregular heartbeats that they take blood thinners for.
Trump probably had stents put in when he had his suprise "checkup."
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
relayerbob
(6,537 posts)The existence of stents doesn't really mean much. The LVEF tells you the real condition of his heart
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
W_HAMILTON
(7,840 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pnwmom
(108,959 posts)and then mysteriously changed his mind.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LizBeth
(9,952 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Moderateguy
(945 posts)Don't you have to have a heart for stents to be put in?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Orrex
(63,172 posts)Mental and physiological fitness are bona fide qualifications for the office, and anyone who presumes to lead the nation should be able to demonstrate fitness for the office at any time.
Sanders' refusal to release his medical records--after saying that he would do so--is equivalent to him standing up at the next debate and shouting "I have something to hide!"
Even if he has nothing to hide, he gains nothing by withholding the documentation that would prove it.
His supporters will claim that his refusal shows him to be strong and resolute, but a great many others sees it as a coverup.
Do Sanders' supporters want him to ignore that quite reasonable perception? Or do they want him to defuse it?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
highplainsdem
(48,918 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)That's October, folks, a month before the election.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Capt. America
(2,477 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Liberty Belle
(9,533 posts)Pretty much everyone who backed Bernie would still support Warren so it would not be the chaos we had after RFK was assassinated after winning the CA primary.
Warren might even pull in some votes that Sanders would not.
And if he became incapacitated after the election, Warren could be counted on to fight for most of the same policies that Sanders would, only in a more pragmatic way and likely higher chance of success.
Warren is likely the better candidate in many ways, but Sanders does have the huge army of followers so a Sanders-Warren ticket is not the worst thing in the world, with insurance in case it's needed.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LastDemocratInSC
(3,646 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JackInGreen
(2,975 posts)And again
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TomSlick
(11,089 posts)In the course of civil lawsuits, one of the first things I do is send interrogatories to the other side. It's a way of determining what is being claimed. Every once in a while, the other lawyer will dodge one of my questions or interpose an objection where none is justified. When this happens, I know where the pay-dirt is to be found. If the other guy is ready to fight over a question, it's because the answer will hurt.
I assume that if Sanders had a clean bill-of-health, he would publish his medical records on the Internet. The fact that he is keeping the records secret - after promising to release them - tells me that there is something to be kept hidden.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(296,875 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
oasis
(49,334 posts)I hope this is expressed again and again in Tuesday's debates.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(296,875 posts)Come on Dems.. do your job!
oasis
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
yaesu
(8,020 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
SunSeeker
(51,520 posts)and how important it is to have that number to determine the heart function level after a heart attack. It's also important to know what the number was before and immediately after the heart attack, as compared to now, to determine how much he has improved.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
McKim
(2,412 posts)Thanks for the reminder as a Warren and Sanders supporter I am going to donate again tomorrow. Goodbye DU I am done! It has been a fascinating few decades.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)in the polls. That's right, people know when Bernie's being unfairly treated and the Baseless Bernie Bashing Backlash is the result... it's why Bernie's glidin' and Joe's slidin' in the national polls.
Here, look...
So, don't despair... instead celebrate the soon-to-be-inaugurated President Sanders!!
Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Orrex
(63,172 posts)I'm frankly amazed that Sanders' supporters aren't more concerned about this. Do they have no concerns about the health of a 78 year old man with very recent cardiac trouble?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
cstanleytech
(26,244 posts)as the VP can take their place so as long as they pick a good one then all is well.
As far as VP goes I also think the winner of the nomination should honestly choose whatever candidate comes in with the 2nd highest votes as we need a strong base to rally around so we can be sure to beat Trump like a drum.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Steelrolled
(2,022 posts)detailed medical records. Every armchair doctor, who dabbles in
politics, on the Internet would be picking it apart.
The summary letters from doctors are more than enough.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
scipan
(2,341 posts)I think that's the same thing.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided