We're not going to change their minds, guys.

[ecstatic]

Any attempt to change their minds makes them even more devoted and, in some cases, unhinged.

A good friend of mine who supports Bernie just called me delusional.

It's like talking to a brick wall.

I haven't seen this much blind devotion to a candidate since, well, trump.

Seems like we either join in the madness or lose.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. It's getting kind of weird, isn't it?

[rzemanfl]

4. I bow to your mastery of understatement. n/t

[BilltheCat]

56. Word.

[GanjaGrower]

5. Our party is being hijacked

[mgcgulfcoast]

7. Yes, by bloomberg trying to buy a nomination

In a party that should not be able to be bought.

[GanjaGrower]

21. Bloomberg is a Democrat

Unlike Bernie.

[Bettie]

32. Bloomberg has supported Republicans

as recently as 2018!

Seriously. WTF?

[GanjaGrower]

33. He's a moderate who understands politics

Unlike Commisar Bernie

[Bettie]

39. Wow, I didn't know that being a "moderate"

means supporting the Democrats losing the Senate by supporting right wing senators.

None of the others in the race have done that, so it feels more like an opportunist hedging his bets.

[BilltheCat]

57. So has Liz Warren remember? People change

in fact she was a Reagan/Bush Republican if I recall correctly right?
But it's irrelevant now and same for Bloomberg.

[carlvsam]

25. And we should follow those ...

whose members apparently include those that think vandalism is "free speech:"

Bloomberg’s New Edgewater Campaign Office Vandalized

At about 1:11 a.m. this morning Chicago police received a call about derogatory words spray painted across the front of the property at 1130 W. Bryn Mawr, the home to one of Bloomberg’s new campaign offices. Police arrived to find the words ‘Racist,’ ‘sexist,’ ‘GOP,’ and ‘oligarch’ boldly drawn in orange on the windows.

Though no other damages to Bloomberg’s Illinois campaign offices have been reported at this time, other incidents have been reported in other cities. His campaign headquarters in Knoxville, Tennessee was also tagged this weekend with similar words including ‘oligarch’ and ‘classist authoritarian.’ In mid-February two of his offices were vandalized in Ann Arbor and Flint Michigan with graffiti reading “Eat the rich” and “Corporate pig.”

[squirecam]

2. How about

We choose someone else.

[msongs]

3. don't see anyone here saying we "must love" biden or liz nt

[mgcgulfcoast]

6. Just making me more determined

And i can assure you of one thing. All this negativity and hate being spewed out against Sanders isnt normal politics and we will just become more united because of it. The people practicing a schorched earth policy dont understand what the result will be.

[David__77]

10. It does strike me as like injecting oneself with poison.

...

[David__77]

8. Maybe you're talking to people are committed.

Just as it seems to me that you may be.

[proud patriot]

9. Nordic Capitalism

Flip the Frame

https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Europe/2014/0511/Nordic-cuddly-capitalism-Utopia-no.-But-a-global-model-for-equity

[Celerity]

28. he will only pay lip service to us Nordics, plus will keep on falsely calling us socialists, all the

while having a major part of his intellectual backers actually wanting REAL socialism, that being the disastrous expropriation of the means of production by either state or socialised forces or both.

He is incredibly stubborn and if not checked, will drive our party, plus the US, and thus a large chunk of the world into the gutter of a Trump re-election and quite possibly the loss of the House as well.

[handmade34]

11. different sides

of the same coin... "I am the one who can fix this" "my way or the highway"

I really have no problem personally with Bernie's ideology.... I have a problem with his demeanor and the behavior he inspires in others... as a undecided voter noted... Obama was calm and soothing, he was confident and made those around him feel confident... one of the differences of supposed unelectable candidates

"there are no blue, there are no red states, we are the United States"

[MisterFred]

16. I will agree Obama was a far better orator. nt

[mgcgulfcoast]

12. Oddly enough, didnt Trump win?

To me, delusional would be nominating a candidate who bought a nomination and expecting anyone to be enthusiastic to support him.

[Quixote1818]

13. Maybe your just the opposite end of the spectrum?

[ahoysrcsm]

42. Well, the opposite of Socialism is Capitalism.

And Warren is the candidate of Regulated Capitalism. Can we trust Warren to be the leader we deserve.

[AlexSFCA]

14. very loyal following

and all Bernie supporters I met in real life are highly informed, I always give up debating with them as they are so clever with talking points. We just have one week to wait (Super Tuesday) and if he is a clear winner, as I suspect, I am prepared to support him. No one seems to be dropping to make any difference. It’s probably too late to stop the momentum. There is only one scenario in which BS can win GE by safe margin if not landslide - huge downturn in the economy akin great recession which will make his talking points resonate with all those moderate independents who lost their jobs and insurance. Swing states are most affected, naturally.

[33taw]

15. I will say, none of them have ever been able to justify the Tad Davine hire. Makes me wonder.

[Evergreen Emerald]

30. We need investigative journalism

[ecstatic]

19. EXTREMELY loyal, and now I understand why Warren didn't want to attack Bernie

last week and likely will not attack tomorrow night. She already understood what I now understand. His followers can't be poached. Period!

[AlexSFCA]

23. they are the envy of anyone running for office

only trump has such following.

[HarlanPepper]

34. I find the exact opposite to be true.

[ahoysrcsm]

43. Next time ask them about the Liberty Union party.

You will leave them speechless.

[AlexSFCA]

45. or McGovern

[democratisphere]

18. Cultish.

The quest for untainted voters continues.

[MontanaMama]

27. It's a cult.

I don’t know what else to call it.

[redqueen]

38. Wow.

Good to know rules don't matter

[Bonobo]

22. And so...we have become "Them".

Classy

[ecstatic]

29. Wasn't trying to be rude or exclude anyone. Ultimately, we're all on the same team. nt

[Bonobo]

31. Very few people here are changing ANYONE'S minds about ANY candidate.

It is not reserved for Sanders and his supporters.

[DanTex]

24. Not with an "oppo dump", that's for sure.

If people wanted to sway Bernie voters, some kind of reasoned argument would be advisable. But "Bernie Bros!" and "Cuba!" and "Communism!" aren't going to sway anyone. Bernie supporters are behind him because they agree with his policies and trust Bernie's consistency.

[ahoysrcsm]

44. There's no changing a Sander supporters mind.

Even when confronted with Sanders failed campaigns for office in '72 '74 '76 for the Liberty Union party. They still can't come to the realization that he is the Democratic Socialist, that he claims to be...

[Thomas Hurt]

26. populist fanaticism begets populist fanaticism?

[Spider Jerusalem]

35. Who is "we"?

[ecstatic]

36. All the people, including myself, who have posted frantic OPs

expressing concern about Sanders, etc.

[Spider Jerusalem]

37. Which is not everyone reading this forum or posting here

so saying "we" is kind of rude, honestly.

[Fresh_Start]

40. no, we do not join the madness. We work on sentient americans

and encourage them to vote

[ripcord]

41. How is an attempt to change your mind going to work?

[totodeinhere]

46. Why would we want to change their minds?

Bernie will make a great president. Problem solved.

[OliverQ]

47. I see the same thing with Biden supporters here.

In fact, the Biden supporters here are far worse than any Bernie supporters.

[Calculating]

50. This

There's this unshakable belief that Biden is the only one who can best Trump.

[NoMoreRepugs]

52. Seriously??

[myohmy2]

48. "...we either join in the madness or lose..."

...jump in, the water's fine...

...you'll get used to it in short order and will soon be having fun...

[The Mouth]

49. Only Bernie has this level of following

The only parallels are Trump and Obama.

When you see homemade signs and T-shirt, you know that there is a literal 'groundswell'.

All due respect to Joe, Liz, and Pete, but Bernie's people are stoked.

I *do* think he can beat Trump, I just think Pete is smarter.

[BilltheCat]

58. stoked? is that what they call it now.

Speaking for me, it's more like bullying and intimidation.
and 2. I don't know how much of it isn't GOPutin trolls.
Trump stated he intended to be "very involved" in the Democratic Primary over a year ago and I suggest taking him at his word.

[David__77]

60. Who is intimidated?

...

[C_U_L8R]

51. It seems when you go far enough right or left

...you end up in the same special place.

[Sugarcoated]

59. Yep.

Disturbing as hell.

[Karadeniz]

53. Confirmation bias. Stinks.

[OliverQ]

54. Imagine thinking the guy who can't even win with Democrats

and hasn't won a single state in 3 attempts at President has a better chance of beating the guy winning everything with a massive movement behind him.

[ecstatic]

55. I'm ok with moving on from this topic!

I was extremely frustrated earlier this week.

I apologize to everyone who was offended.