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KayF

(1,345 posts)
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 11:30 PM Feb 2020

Watch Obama talk about Castro's progress in education and health care


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Watch Obama talk about Castro's progress in education and health care (Original Post) KayF Feb 2020 OP
Been there, done that, and only 55 seconds of a LONG talk by Obama taken out of context.... George II Feb 2020 #1
Irony, thy name is George II. nt MisterFred Feb 2020 #3
Also Deero Feb 2020 #4
"I SAID THIS TO PRESIDENT CASTRO IN CUBA..." SMC22307 Feb 2020 #8
Raoul, not Fidel.nt xmas74 Feb 2020 #12
Bingo. Deero Feb 2020 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author David__77 Feb 2020 #6
"I SAID THIS TO PRESIDENT CASTRO IN CUBA..." SMC22307 Feb 2020 #7
Doesn't matter. TomSlick Feb 2020 #2
Florida was off the map with Hillary as nominee. SMC22307 Feb 2020 #5
Florida was not off the map in 2016. TomSlick Feb 2020 #11
Hillary lost Florida. What Democrat campaigning right now... SMC22307 Feb 2020 #14
See polls in my previous post. TomSlick Feb 2020 #15
Floridian never be counted on for any Dem. They invented voter suppression in current form. hedda_foil Feb 2020 #9
All that will matter relayerbob Feb 2020 #10
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
1. Been there, done that, and only 55 seconds of a LONG talk by Obama taken out of context....
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 11:39 PM
Feb 2020

Thanks.

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MisterFred

(525 posts)
3. Irony, thy name is George II. nt
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 11:41 PM
Feb 2020
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Deero

(86 posts)
4. Also
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 11:41 PM
Feb 2020

Nevermind that Obama was talking about reforms put in place AFTER Fidel Castro had stepped down.

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SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
8. "I SAID THIS TO PRESIDENT CASTRO IN CUBA..."
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 11:49 PM
Feb 2020

Obama offers praise where it's due and also well-deserved criticism.

Seriously, get a grip.

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xmas74

(29,674 posts)
12. Raoul, not Fidel.nt
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 12:04 AM
Feb 2020
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Deero

(86 posts)
13. Bingo.
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 01:26 AM
Feb 2020

Raul Castro had assumed the duties of the Cuban Presidency in February of 2008, nearly a full year before Obama was ever sworn in.

Furthermore, once Raul took over control of Cuba, he started to implement political and economic reforms that limited his own power and moved Cuba economy into a more, though certainly not all, market based system. Still, it was several years later when Obama began to normalize relations with them.

Obama had sought to normalize relations with Cuba from the start, but not without them meeting certain conditions, and Raul did that because he wanted to normalize those relations as well. Those are the reforms and improvements that Obama was talking about.

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SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
7. "I SAID THIS TO PRESIDENT CASTRO IN CUBA..."
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 11:47 PM
Feb 2020

The words came out of his mouth, George -- praise along with a dose of reality about the economy and the country being stuck in the '50s.

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TomSlick

(11,097 posts)
2. Doesn't matter.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 11:39 PM
Feb 2020

The pro-Castro statements mean Florida is off the map is Sen. Sanders is the nominee.

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SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
5. Florida was off the map with Hillary as nominee.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 11:43 PM
Feb 2020

You think any of our "D" candidates would carry that state against Fat Nixon?

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TomSlick

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11. Florida was not off the map in 2016.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 11:54 PM
Feb 2020

Trump got 49.0% of the popular vote while Clinton got 47.8%. Trump won Florida by a plurality as a result of the various third-party candidates. Florida is always close - at least it has been in the recent past.

The most recent polls showed the Florida race too close to call for any Democrat against Trump.

[link:https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/florida/|

Of course, these were before the news of Sanders pro-Castro statements - and every elected Democrat in Florida running away from Sanders.


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SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
14. Hillary lost Florida. What Democrat campaigning right now...
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 08:15 PM
Feb 2020

do you think could win the state?

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TomSlick

(11,097 posts)
15. See polls in my previous post.
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 08:54 PM
Feb 2020

The short answer as of the last poll was any of them. Of course, that poll was before Sanders doubled-down on his praise for Castro.

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hedda_foil

(16,373 posts)
9. Floridian never be counted on for any Dem. They invented voter suppression in current form.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 11:49 PM
Feb 2020
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relayerbob

(6,544 posts)
10. All that will matter
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 11:54 PM
Feb 2020

is the constant screaming drum beat we will get from the GOP about Sanders being a Commie. All will get hit by the bullshit, but Sanders has a lot of low hanging fruit out there. Truth is not going to be relevant. Be prepared, because this stuff will be minor league stuff by September

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