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Jakes Progress

(11,122 posts)
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 11:46 PM Feb 2020

Questions about what to do Super Tuesday

I'm in one of those states. I am in a quandary about what to do with my primary vote.

As you can see below, Warren is my candidate of choice. I think she is the smartest and most capable of those running. I would prefer her to any of the other Democratic candidates. But, of course, I would prefer any of the other Democratic candidates to trump.

That said, I believe that nominating Sanders is a guaranteed trump win in November. So on Super Tuesday how do I cast my ballot. As it stands the moderate wing of the party holds a majority of support, but when you divide that by four or five, with only two progressives splitting the other side, Sanders benefits.

Polls show Biden leading by the most in the states that will matter electorally in November. But even if I ignore my sentiments and progressive wishes and vote for Biden in the primary, Sanders just gets more of the progressive vote, and with the moderates split by four or five, stands to move to an invincible number even if he doesn't really have the majority of the party supporting him.

So do I vote Warren or not? I am 50 years into voting progressive, but this year is different. My problem is the the Democratic candidates are not working to defeat trump, but to attack each other which only helps trump.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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Questions about what to do Super Tuesday (Original Post) Jakes Progress Feb 2020 OP
I think we need to keep Warren as strong as possible because this could go blm Feb 2020 #1
I concur with this relayerbob Feb 2020 #2
I can understand that perspective and think that may be the case. David__77 Feb 2020 #4
+1 nt backtoblue Feb 2020 #18
I was once a Warren supporter... W_HAMILTON Feb 2020 #3
I'm close to that point as well. ecstatic Feb 2020 #9
If Sanders were not in the race, I would without a doubt vote for Warren. W_HAMILTON Feb 2020 #13
I'm voting Warren stopwastingmymoney Feb 2020 #5
vote for warren, she's the one u want. that's what a primary is for nt msongs Feb 2020 #6
I am sticking with Warren. sheshe2 Feb 2020 #7
This our primary, not Trump's. dotism Feb 2020 #8
Beating Trump is the main objective.. Moderateguy Feb 2020 #10
Well, I recommend Warren. MisterFred Feb 2020 #11
Yay. dotism Feb 2020 #14
switching to Biden is the only alternative AlexSFCA Feb 2020 #12
I heard an interesting theory on MSNBC tonight, Bayard Feb 2020 #15
Here's my plan. TomSlick Feb 2020 #16
If you think Warren is the best candidate to beat trump vote for her MustLoveBeagles Feb 2020 #17
 

blm

(113,043 posts)
1. I think we need to keep Warren as strong as possible because this could go
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 11:49 PM
Feb 2020

to a brokered convention, and Warren is in good position to be the consensus candidate.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

relayerbob

(6,544 posts)
2. I concur with this
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 11:50 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

David__77

(23,369 posts)
4. I can understand that perspective and think that may be the case.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 11:51 PM
Feb 2020

...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

W_HAMILTON

(7,862 posts)
3. I was once a Warren supporter...
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 11:51 PM
Feb 2020

...but I am not any longer. I care more about NOT nominating Sanders than I do nominating any one in particular of the other candidates, which is one of the reasons I switched from Warren to Biden. Based on Warren's relatively poor showings thus far, I just don't think it is in the cards for her. And -- if you likewise don't want Sanders to win -- I think a vote for her may eventually turn into delegate support for Sanders in the event he doesn't win the nomination on the first ballot. I just don't really see any reason to vote for Warren now at this point, especially not if one of your main concerns is keeping Sanders from the nomination.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ecstatic

(32,685 posts)
9. I'm close to that point as well.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 11:58 PM
Feb 2020

I vowed to support EW no matter what because she was the first senator to call for impeachment... but I'm terrified by the thought of another 4 years of trump!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

W_HAMILTON

(7,862 posts)
13. If Sanders were not in the race, I would without a doubt vote for Warren.
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 12:11 AM
Feb 2020

Fun fact: I believe Warren's strong and unequivocal call for impeachment was what originally got me to switch my support to her earlier in the race.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

stopwastingmymoney

(2,041 posts)
5. I'm voting Warren
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 11:52 PM
Feb 2020

I’m in California, where last I saw, Liz was a few points behind Bernie and they had over 50% between them. I’d like to see her take our delegates.

ETA: I just checked and that’s not true anymore. I’m voting for her anyway 😛


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

msongs

(67,395 posts)
6. vote for warren, she's the one u want. that's what a primary is for nt
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 11:54 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

sheshe2

(83,746 posts)
7. I am sticking with Warren.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 11:54 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

dotism

(68 posts)
8. This our primary, not Trump's.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 11:55 PM
Feb 2020

We need to stand by our candidates here.

Fortune telling, game theory, and prognosticating is crazy-making and gets us nowhere (see 2000, 2004, and 2016).

Vote for your candidate of choice in the primary! This is our chance at making the party ours! Don't sacrifice your vote on thumb twiddling and calculations... Warren is obviously the best candidate

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Moderateguy

(945 posts)
10. Beating Trump is the main objective..
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 12:01 AM
Feb 2020

BUT no one besides YOU can decide FOR YOU who the best candidate to beat Trump is. This is YOUR vote and you have a right to support your candidate of choice

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

MisterFred

(525 posts)
11. Well, I recommend Warren.
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 12:02 AM
Feb 2020

Two reasons.

First, I like Warren. She's awesome.

Second, she's got a decent shot. If she gets a bump from the last debate - and the next one, she could easily end up with the second most delegates after Super Tuesday - resulting in a decent chance of emerging as the Sanders alternative.

She's not that far behind Bloomberg & Biden. Doesn't take much to put her in second.

I think your quandry would be much more difficult in the states that vote AFTER Super Tuesday.

Now, my picture below shows Sanders. But I'm not telling you to vote for him. Vote for who you like in the primary. All good! =D

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

dotism

(68 posts)
14. Yay.
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 12:14 AM
Feb 2020

This is precisely why we get along

Someone on YouTube was complaining about Warren not 'attacking' Bernie instead of Bloomberg and my defense for Warren fell on exactly this concept: Warren supporters like Bernie and Sanders supporters like Warren... We just need to see how things go and work it out together. Unlike the moderates, the Sanders/Warren coalition seems to actually have a unified front against the right. We'll get it done.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

AlexSFCA

(6,137 posts)
12. switching to Biden is the only alternative
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 12:02 AM
Feb 2020

I’ve already voted but had I waited, I’d vote for Biden today in CA. Every vote matters in dem primary cause delegates are proportionate and thresholds to earn delegates can be razor thin.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Bayard

(22,061 posts)
15. I heard an interesting theory on MSNBC tonight,
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 12:28 AM
Feb 2020

Can't remember which show, as I was trying not to fall asleep. This person said, tons of people will not vote in the primaries. They take the attitude that--you people decide who the nominee is going to be, and we'll vote for them in Nov. Blue, no matter who.

To me, that says, the people who are voting in the primaries are only the tip of the iceberg. And that trump is going to get steamrolled by whoever we nominate.

What a happy thought!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MustLoveBeagles

(11,591 posts)
17. If you think Warren is the best candidate to beat trump vote for her
Tue Feb 25, 2020, 08:20 PM
Feb 2020
My problem is the the Democratic candidates are not working to defeat trump, but to attack each other which only helps trump.


I'm disheartened by this as well. We're all supposed to be on the same side but I'm not seeing that right now. I hope things settle down soon.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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