I Guess Steve Schmidt Didn't Watch Bernie's Town Hall Where He Said How To Pay For His Programs

[DanieRains]

Steve Schmidt on Brian Williams' show was complaining about paying for Bernie's programs is a secret. Not after tonight.

Bernie says how he will pay for his programs on his website tonight.

It is simple. Tax the folks that have 50 trillion in wealth, and hugely profitable corporations. Not rocket science. It's not like we ever asked how we were gonna pay for a tax cut for the rich, or a war right?

From me not Bernie. (below)

30 Trillion over 10 years. Yes folks, 30 Trillion. Not extra, but what we are already going to spend. Bernie is going to spend all the money we waste on overhead on actually treating sick people, and keeping the corporations to profit off the sick.

Capitalist Health Care = Pay or Die. Pretty simple.

450 Billion a year on needless overhead managing thousands of crappy plans.

Take all the insurance company employees and train them to help sick or disable people instead.

You get a benefit from the $$.

Our system is murderous. Period. If you aren't rich, or lucky, you are bankrupt and dead if you get real sick. Even with insurance.

Time to do what they do 50 miles from Bernie's house where everyone has healthcare for half as much per person, because they don't profit off sick people as much.

[George II]

1. Except that his "how to pay for his programs" was vague and non-specific. Schmidt was right.

[dansolo]

35. And it only covers about half of the expected costs

And will leave no other funding for all his other free things, or the stuff that is currently underfunded.

[Happy Hoosier]

43. Exactly.

I see there is an onslaught of very vague and fuzzy math coming from the Sanders crowd right now.

I'm an engineer. I can do math. This doesn't add up.

Heck Bernie can;t even say what all his free ponies are going to cost.

[Hoyt]

2. I'll await expert opinion as to whether it covers the cost and does not adversely impact

economy.

If it does that, considering the other initiatives he’s proposing and factoring in benefit of having everyone covered, I’ll give him credit.

[highplainsdem]

4. His "plan" includes magical numbers like $2.3 trillion in new income tax revenues he says

will be collected from the 20 million new jobs the Green New Deal will create.

[SamKnause]

6. There have been 22 studies that say Bernie's plan will saves lives and money.

Just Google Bernie's Medicare For All will save how much money ???

The Washington Post had an article 4 days ago saying Bernie's plan will

save lives and money.

Hope that helps.

[Hoyt]

8. Saving lives is a big factor, but not whole story. I'll await expert analyses.

[SamKnause]

11. So your not interested in the 22 studies and the Washington Post article ???

Okay.

[Hoyt]

13. I'd like to see analyses. We could save a lot of lives by spending entire GNP

on curing cancer, from personal experience.

There’s more to the story.

[Happy Hoosier]

44. I'd like to see what the assumptions are.

It's one thing to claim savings, which I believe, at least in the out years, it's another thing to say that as individuals we will enjoy the savings, which I don't believe. Bernie doesn;t really have a plan for recovering employer contributions expect through a vague tax with almost no numbers associated with it.

This is a fairy tale right now.

[BootinUp]

3. Does it not matter to u that his and Warrens

Plans are dead on arrival?

[MisterFred]

5. Well for myself: Not really.

I trust Bernie more than other candidates to pursue his stated goals. Will he, like any president, have difficulty pushing their agenda through? Sure. Same as Obama, Trump, Bush, any president. Will those plans be enacted exactly the same as presented in the campaign? No.

But I trust Sanders (and Warren, almost as much) to pursue their stated goals and get as close to them as they can.

[ChubbyStar]

9. I don't own a TV but many threads relate to coverage Sander's is getting

on TV. I find that most interesting because TV news is only going to post stories if they know they have traction and ratings. I think Bernie must be doing well.

[BootinUp]

12. Sanders evokes very little of that for me. To me

He is a grandstanding go it alone pie in the sky Senator from Vermont that does not show any sign of gaining enough support for any of his grand rhetoric. I judge people by what they do.

[DanieRains]

15. $15 Minimum Wage Passed Here

Bernie led the fight with others.

[BootinUp]

18. I do give him some credit, but not as much as u. Nt

[dsc]

31. So does he get credit for the failure of single payer to pass

[Arazi]

47. That was an economic problem of economy of scale

And VT state government had the onus to pass it, not the US Senator

[dsc]

57. and didn't the state pass the $15 minimum wage

[MisterFred]

16. I like Pete...

But what you said sounds very similar to "mayor from a small town who never accomplished anything big before running for president. I judge people by what they do."

[BootinUp]

19. Pete hasn't had decades at this. Nt

[MisterFred]

20. Right. So, uh, how do you judge him on what he has done? nt

[BootinUp]

21. I think the answer is obvious.

I’m dealing with a computer problem so not able to carry on a long discussion. The number one thing I see with Pete is his plans are not only more achievable from a politics standpoint they are also very well thought out. And when he talks about his ideas or our problems he fills in gaps that some others do not. I think that’s because he has studied the issues better.

[MisterFred]

22. Ah. You stop judging on what someone has done and move on to promises.

Personally, I look at his efforts in South Bend and am not impressed. That said, I'd say he's my third-favorite in the field.

[BootinUp]

23. No I leave it to you to research while my system restore

Is creaking along. He has been in public service for enough time to have a record to judge. Nit pick it to your heart’s content

[MisterFred]

40. Okay. Firing a police chief that was rooting out racism in his department. Not good. nt

[BootinUp]

46. First I heard it put that way

Do you have a reliable source for that?

[jimfields33]

37. He went after Klobuchar and that ended his campaign

He doesn’t know it yet. But that was absolutely ridiculous. There was zero reason to do it and made him look terrible. Polls and Nevada results have proved me right.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

25. Riiiiiiiiiiight!! No support all... certainly nothing like this...

[link:|


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

[DemocracyMouse]

28. And to address the vicious Republican meme about Sanders' "weak legislative record":

According to DU member Dragonfli:

The following is a list of every substantive bill and amendment Sanders sponsored from the floor of Congress that became law (substantive meaning legislation renaming post offices is not included). Many of the roll-call amendments he passed with majority approval — like limiting the federal government’s ability to spy on people’s library records — were removed from bills when the House and Senate negotiated over the final legislative text and did not become law.

Because the list is derived from Congress’ official database of floor actions, it does not include achievements like his insertion of funding for veterans health care into an Iraq war spending bill because that occurred off of the House floor while the bill was in conference. Nor does the list include what is perhaps his most significant achievement — providing health care to an additional 10 million mostly low-income Americans by getting Senate majority leader Harry Reid to add $11 billion in funding for community health centers that provide care regardless of a person’s ability to pay to the 2010 Affordable Care Act in exchange for Sanders rallying liberal Democrats who were considering voting against the bill once conservative Democrats removed the public option.

Those who mistakenly believe that a President Sanders would be powerless in the face of a hostile Republican Congress should bear in mind that he managed to pass these bills and amendments in spite of Republican control of both the House (1995-2006) and the presidency (2001-2008). Furthermore, it was Republicans in the House and Senate who compromised with him (not the other way around) on major veterans legislation in 2014. His original bill expanding services for veterans and fixing the scandal-ridden Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) cost $17.3 billion. The price tag of the final compromise bill? $16.3 billion.
H.R.4206 (Cancer Registries Amendment Act) enacted as S. 3312 (Cancer Registries Amendment Act).

H.Amdt. 98 to H.R. 665 (Victims of Justice Act of 1995)

H.Amdt. 210 to H.R. 830 (Paperwork Reduction Act of 1995)

H.Amdt. 1203 to H.R. 3666 Departments of Veterans Affairs and Housing and Urban Development, and Independent Agencies Appropriations Act, 1997

H.J.Res.129 enacted as S.J.Res.38 (A joint resolution granting the consent of Congress to the Vermont-New Hampshire Interstate Public Water Supply Compact)

H.Amdt.174 to H.R.1757 (Foreign Affairs Reform and Restructuring Act of 1998)

H.Amdt.267 to H.R.2160 (Agriculture, Rural Development, Food and Drug Administration, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 1998)

H.Amdt.289 to H.R.2266 (Department of Defense Appropriations Act, 1998) -- National Guard Starbase program

H.Amdt.368 to H.R.2378 (Treasury and General Government Appropriations Act, 1998) -- Prohibit funds for the U.S. Customs Office from being used to allow the importation into the U.S. any material mined, produced, or manufactured by forced or indentured child labor.

H.Amdt.388 to H.R.2267 (Departments of Commerce, Justice, and State, the Judiciary, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 1998)

H.Amdt.569 to H.R.6 (Higher Education Amendments of 1998)

H.Amdt.614 to H.R.3694 (Intelligence Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 1999) -- Reduce the intelligence budget for fiscal year 1999 by 5% with an exemption for the CIA Retirement and Disability Fund.

H.Amdt.626 to H.R.10 (Financial Services Act of 1998) -- Require the Comptroller General to report to Congress regarding the efficacy and benefits of uniformly limiting any commissions, fees, markups, or other costs incurred by customers in the acquisition of financial products.

H.Amdt.706 to H.R.4101 (Agriculture, Rural Development, Food and Drug Administration, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 1999) -- Increase funding for nutrition programs for senior citizens by $10 million

H.Amdt.708 to H.R.4103 (Department of Defense Appropriations Act, 1999) -- Prohibit funding to be used to enter into or renew a contract with any company owned, or partially owned, by the People’s Republic of China or the People’s Liberation Army of the People’s Republic of China.

H.Amdt.724 to H.R.4104 (Treasury and General Government Appropriations Act, 1999) enacted as H.R. 2490 (Treasury and General Government Appropriations Act, 2000) -- National Archives and Records Administration improvements

H.Amdt.127 to H.R.1906 (Agriculture, Rural Development, Food and Drug Administration, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2000)

H.Amdt.136 to H.R.1906 (Agriculture, Rural Development, Food and Drug Administration, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2000) -- national pilot program to promote agritourism

H.Amdt.258 to H.R.2466 (Department of the Interior and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2000) enacted as H.R.3194 (Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2000) -- deficit reduction; and reduces fossil energy research and development funding

H.Amdt.442 to H.R.2684 (Departments of Veterans Affairs and Housing and Urban Development, and Independent Agencies Appropriations Act, 2000) -- health care services for veterans in rural areas

H.Amdt.791 to H.R.4577 (Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2001) -- (relating to the availability to the public of an invention and its benefits on reasonable terms)

H.Amdt.818 to H.R.4578 (Department of the Interior and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2001) -- weatherization assistance and energy conservation programs and reduce fossil fuel energy research and development programs

H.Amdt.238 to H.R.2590 (Treasury and General Government Appropriations Act, 2002) -- Prohibit the importation of goods made by forced or indentured child labor.

H.Amdt.376 to H.R.3061 (Departments of Labor, Health and Human Services, and Education, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2002) -- relating to the availability to the public of an invention and its benefits on reasonable terms

H.Amdt.404 to H.R.3338 (Department of Defense and Emergency Supplemental Appropriations for Recovery from and Response to Terrorist Attacks on the United States Act, 2002) -- Provide $100 million for federally qualified community health centers.

H.Amdt.255 to H.R.2691 (Department of the Interior and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2004) -- Increase funding for weatherization assistance grants

H.Amdt.336 to H.R.2861 (Departments of Veterans Affairs and Housing and Urban Development, and Independent Agencies Appropriations Act, 2004) enacted as H.R.2673 (Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2004) -- Prohibit the use of funds in the bill to implement any policy prohibiting the Directors of the Veterans Integrated Service Networks from conducting outreach or marketing to enroll new veterans within their respective networks.

S.Amdt.737 to H.R.1591 (U.S. Troop Readiness, Veterans’ Care, Katrina Recovery, and Iraq Accountability Appropriations Act, 2007) -- fund weatherization assistance program

S.Amdt.1515 to H.R.6 (Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007) -- Establish an energy efficiency and renewable energy worker training program

S.Amdt.1525 to H.R.6 (Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007) -- use of solar hot water heaters in certain Federal buildings

S.Amdt.4384 to H.R.3221 (Housing and Economic Recovery Act of 2008) -- Increase specially adapted housing benefits for disabled veterans.

S.Amdt.1658 to S.1390 (National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2010) -- re child care available to deployed members of the reserve components of the Armed Forces

S.Amdt.2271 to H.R.2997 (Agriculture, Rural Development, Food and Drug Administration, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2010) -- funds for the school community garden pilot program

S.Amdt.2601 to H.R.3326 (Department of Defense Appropriations Act, 2010) -- veteran outreach and reintegration services

S.Amdt.3738 to S.3217 (Restoring American Financial Stability Act of 2010) -- let the American people know the names of the recipients of over $2 trillion in taxpayer assistance from the Federal Reserve System

S.Amdt.306 to H.R.1 (American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009) -- Require recipients of TARP funding to meet strict H-1B worker hiring standard to ensure non-displacement of U.S. workers

S.Amdt.1658 to S.1390 (National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2010) -- report to Congress on financial assistance for child care available to deployed members of the reserve components of the Armed Forces.

S.Amdt.4280 to H.R.4899 (Supplemental Appropriations Act, 2010) -- make publicly available the contractor integrity performance database established under the Clean Contracting Act of 2008

S.2450 (Veterans’ Access to Care through Choice, Accountability, and Transparency Act of 2014) enacted as H.R.3230 (Veterans Access, Choice, and Accountability Act of 2014) -- VA reform bill

S.893 (Veterans’ Compensation Cost-of-Living Adjustment Act of 2013) -- increase rates of veterans’ disability compensation, additional compensation for dependents, etc.

S.Amdt.2146 to S.1471 (Alicia Dawn Koehl Respect for National Cemeteries Act) – re interring the remains and honoring the memory of a person in a national cemetery

The Right Wing meme being spread here often appears to be that, even with all his years of public service, a progressive like Bernie Sanders was too far to the left to accomplish anything, being a former Independent and all.

That one has to be able to find the buypartisan way, in other words, adopt the least offensive GOP legislation as your own if you wish to accomplish anything, if one is not a member of the Republican party itself.

The problem with this bullshit GOP meme is that it is completely false, he's actually one of the most effective members of Congress, passing bills, of all sizes and shapes, that have reshaped American policy on key issues like poverty, the environment and health care.


I wrote that 4 years ago and there is a bunch more at that link, however would people with a new list post anything new, not on this list, as a reply please so that I can update it?
Thanks a bunch!

–Dragonfli

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

29. Yes, thanks for drivin that point home DM... just another reason to get behind Bernie

... and the fact that Bernie clobbers the Fascist-in-Chief by the widest margins!!


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

[dansolo]

36. I trust Bernie less to ACCOMPLISH his stated goals

I couldn't care less about how much he will pursue his stated goals. End results matter, and all the promises in the world mean nothing if he can't get anything passed.

[Cal Carpenter]

7. Given that their plans are supported by most Americans

If the legislature blocks it from happening it seems messed up to blame the people who are trying to make it happen.

If no one makes it a priority it really is dead before arrival. If we don't try we will never have it.

[BootinUp]

10. That just ain't true. Half the time people dont

Even understand what they are being asked. There is a reason most D elected officials aren’t on board. That is because their constituents aren’t. Also, don’t count on National polls to mean squat. This has to be looked at on a state by state or regional basis. Stop swallowing politicians rhetoric hook line and sinker.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

30. THIS x 1000!!

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

[Gothmog]

14. Sanders is only $30 trillion short

[oasis]

26. I'm sure Bloomberg will nail him on that in tomorrow night's debate.

No more smooth sailing for Senator Sanders.

[jimfields33]

38. Perhaps he could tax the 30 billion on Bloomberg alone

He’s rich and it wouldn’t even hurt him at all. Call it the Bloomberg tax.

[oasis]

39. Bernie's immediate problem is the tax on his own credibility in regards

to M4A. Mike's surrogate Tim O'Brien's on CNN just gave of a hint on what's to come, and it ain't gonna be pretty.

[TwilightZone]

53. Trillion, not billion.

30 trillion is 30,000 billion.

[jimfields33]

56. Oh crap! Yieks.

Well there goes my entire debate. Thanks! I have certainly gotten things wrong before, but wow! That’s the winner right there.


I’m laughing because of how dumb I am.

[Gothmog]

41. sanders plan does not add up

Link to tweet

[oasis]

45. THIS

^^^^^
^^^^^
^^^^^

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

24. 70,000 Americans shouldn't have to die to ensure obscene insurance company profits!!

Thankfully, President Sanders will soon be on the job to remedy the situation and bring TRUE universal healthcare through M4A!!


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

[Liberty Belle]

27. It is still vague but he made one good point on 60 minutes on this issue:

He asked why when Republican presidents have slashed taxes on the rich, nobody asks them how they are going to pay for that? Socialism/corporate welfare for the rich is just fine with them, but not providing healthcare for the poor.

[uponit7771]

32. So does Sanders think we're all stupid? 20 million new jobs to pay for his plan? REALLY?!

Last edited Tue Feb 25, 2020, 11:40 AM - Edit history (1)

[Scurrilous]

50. I checked where he got that number.

They're all supposed to come from Green New Deal. And that won't happen.


'Democrats are putting the Green New Deal in the rearview mirror, but they’re not abandoning climate change legislation.

Supporters of the progressive measure are shifting their sights away from passing a comprehensive plan to create green jobs and pursue 100 percent renewable energy by 2030. They are instead looking at multiple bills in hopes of advancing elements of the broader initiative.

The change comes after a heated few months where Republicans battered the idea of the Green New Deal, damaging a brand initially promoted by freshman Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.).'

'The shift in focus from passing the Green New Deal as a whole to advancing smaller bills may gather more support from moderate Democrats in the House, who in the past have criticized the broader plan as wishful thinking and not achievable.

Pelosi has remained noncommittal on holding a floor vote for the Green New Deal resolution. Instead, she promised some climate legislation would be debated soon, mentioning bills that could come from her newly established House Select Committee on Climate Crisis, chaired by Rep. Kathy Castor (D-Fla.).'

https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/436171-democrats-to-move-on-from-green-new-deal


From 11 months ago. Congress shifting away from plan to create green jobs. Yet Bernie is counting revenue from these jobs. LOL

[uponit7771]

51. Jus wow, if Sanders numbers don't tank after this its because Warren is a woman. All the ...

... progressives in our party thinking isn't as progressive as it should be.

Sanders still sucking in swing states against Trump while Biden does the best, we're being warned

[MrsCoffee]

33. "Take all the insurance company employees and train them to help sick or disable people instead."

What in the hell makes him think insurance people want to take care of sick or disabled people? They probably would have gone into the medical field if that was what they wanted to do. Do we now just tell someone what their new career is? You there, take care of these sick people!

Yeah, the Republicans won’t have a field day with that one. Nope.

[Demsrule86]

54. His plan is a disaster.

[Squinch]

34. Sure Bernie told you how he was going to pay for it. Sure he did.

[uponit7771]

52. +1 20 million green new deal jobs is not even thinking about being realistic

[Gothmog]

42. Statement from Biden campaign on sanders plan to pay for proposals

Link to tweet

[Gothmog]

48. NYT-Bernie Sanders Outlines Funding for His Plans, but It May Not All Add Up

Link to tweet

Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont, under growing pressure to explain how he would pay for his very expensive policy agenda, released a checklist on Monday evening that he described as a full explanation of how he would finance all of his proposals.

The actual document is somewhat limited, and in some cases the revenue Mr. Sanders identifies doesn’t match the costs of his plans.

For example, he estimated Sunday night on “60 Minutes” that the price tag for his “Medicare for all” plan would be about $30 trillion over 10 years, but the revenue he identifies for it in the new outline totals about $17.5 trillion. It is possible that the gap could be filled by existing appropriations for Medicare and Medicaid, but Mr. Sanders did not mention those in his outline or in the Sunday interview...…

Ms. Warren released a comprehensive plan in November to pay for her own version of Medicare for all, and the resulting scrutiny of the details was a major factor in her campaign’s decline. Mr. Sanders largely avoided that level of scrutiny by not releasing such extensive details.

His announcement on Monday came nominally in response to a question about whether his plan for free college was equivalent to President Trump’s promise to build a border wall and make Mexico pay for it: a rallying cry for supporters, but with no realistic path to happening.

[Scurrilous]

49. Simple! Simple? Simply ROFL.

The Legislative branch controls taxes and spending and if I remember right the Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1993 was the last significant tax increase on the rich.

So yes folks it simply ain't going to happen as long as the GOP controls the Senate.


BTW, it must be rocket science because so many can't grasp that the GOP does not raise taxes on the rich. They cut them. All the time. They want to cut them again now.

[rzemanfl]

55. ....

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287578577

[Happy Hoosier]

58. His plan to pay for it kinda sounded like....

Sanders: and I'm gonna buy a new car!

Interviewer: Ho ya gonna pay for it?

Sanders: I have a lemonade stand. And we spend way too much on cigarettes in this house!

[Gothmog]

59. Even With New Pay-Fors, Bernie's Agenda Still Has A $25 Trillion Hole

Link to tweet

Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders has made some extraordinary promises in his campaign for president, including free health care, a federal jobs guarantee, universal forgiveness of all student debt, and radical expansions of nearly every government program from Social Security to housing subsidies. When asked at a CNN town hall last night how he would pay for this gargantuan expansion of government, Sen. Sanders presented moderator Chris Cuomo with a new document that Sanders claimed detailed how he would pay for his proposals. But don’t be fooled: these numbers still don’t add up, and Sanders should be pressed to explain his magic math at tonight’s debate.

The first problem is that the list of Sanders’ proposed spending increases is incomplete. Sanders has proposed costly plans for K-12 education, expanding disability insurance, paid family leave, and more that were not accounted for in the new document. He also grossly understates the cost of his Medicare for All plan by citing a flawed analysis that neglected to incorporate the costs of specific benefits Sanders proposes, such as universal coverage for long-term services and supports, and failed to account for how offering universal health-care benefits more generous than those offered by any other country on earth would increase utilization of health services.

Sanders and his surrogates regularly claim that critics are wrong to focus on how much Medicare for All increases government costs because it would reduce the total cost of health care. But independent analyses from the Urban Institute and Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget have concluded that even with the aggressive price controls he has proposed, Sanders’ Medicare-for-All framework would actually increase national health expenditures by up to $7 trillion. Sanders himself also admitted in a 60 minutes interview this weekend that his Medicare-for-All plan would likely cost around $30 trillion, yet the list of “options” Sanders has offered to pay for them (options which, it should be noted, he has never explicitly endorsed enacting together) would together cover less than 60 percent of that amount by the Sanders campaign’s own accounting.

In January, the Progressive Policy Institute published comprehensive cost estimates of the proposals offered by each of the leading candidates for president before the Iowa Caucus. After incorporating new proposals that Sanders has released since the publication of our analysis and minor methodological updates, PPI concludes that Sanders has now proposed over $53 trillion of new spending over the next 10 years – an amount that would roughly double the size of the federal government. Our estimate is, if anything, overly charitable to Sanders, as it accepts most of the Sanders campaign’s cost estimates outside of Medicare for All and assumes significant overlap in the costs of his proposed federal jobs guarantee and other spending proposals. Other analysts have estimated the total costs of Sanders’ proposals could be anywhere between $60 trillion and $100 trillion over 10 years. ,,,,

Sanders’ proposed pay-fors don’t even come close to covering these costs. The document Sanders published last night, along with others released earlier in his campaign, claim to collectively raise less than $43 trillion in new revenue – meaning that he’s at least $10 trillion short. But the revenue projections Sanders uses for his tax proposals are well outside the mainstream of what independent analysts at the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget, Congressional Budget Office, Tax Policy Center, Penn Wharton Budget Model, and others have estimated. After reconciling Sanders’ latest list of pay-fors with these independent estimates, PPI concludes that even if Congress were to adopt every single revenue option Sanders has offered for consideration, it would fall almost $25 trillion short of his proposed spending increases over the next decade – leaving a gap nearly equal to the total value of all goods and services produced by the U.S. economy in one year.

[HarlanPepper]

60. I watched it

Taking out some papers and waving them around isn’t answering the question.